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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #856 on: October 23, 2022, 02:18:43 PM »
Why are killer Luke Mitchell fans claiming he had a subscription to a magazine as opposed to having purchased the CD & bonus DVD from Sainsbury’s?
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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #859 on: October 24, 2022, 10:38:23 PM »
Why did liar Corinne Mitchell tell James English her son wasn’t a fan a Marilyn Manson when she knew he was?

What was Philip Mitchell’s evidence and what did his partner say about psycho killer Luke Mitchell and why his dad and his dads partner got him a Marilyn Manson calendar for his birthday
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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #860 on: October 25, 2022, 12:18:13 PM »
Sandra Lean 24th October 2022
Kirstie Hesp The forensics officer did not need to go over the wall - only a few hundred yards further up is the big break in the wall that goes all the way down to the ground - no climbing required. Alternatively, entry through the field between Newbattle Abbey and the woodland strip would have meant simply stepping over the wire fence - I'm only 5' 2" and I can step over it without having to "climb"!

Although items of Jodi's clothing were gathered up before the other forensics officer arrived the following morning, there are no details of how that was done - were they lifted individually, bagged and tagged as they were collected, of were they just all gathered up together, like they did with Luke's clothes - stuffed everything into one bag????
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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #861 on: October 25, 2022, 12:19:33 PM »
What was Philip Mitchell’s evidence and what did his partner say about psycho killer Luke Mitchell and why his dad and his dads partner got him a Marilyn Manson calendar for his birthday

And was this one of the items the Mitchell’s forgot to burn ?
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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #863 on: October 25, 2022, 04:39:32 PM »
As per usual - warped minded fantasist and abuser Scott Forbes has got his facts wrong
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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #864 on: October 25, 2022, 04:50:13 PM »
Hat about Jigsawmans 4.55pm call to the office

Sandra Lean states here: http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,551.msg452006.html#msg452006
Luke spoke to his mum before 16.30 and therefore before the exchange of texts between his and Judith's phones at 16.34 - 16.38 and he called the speaking clock at 16.54.


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Timeline Monday June 30th 2003.
4.05pm Jodi returns home from school
4.34 4.38pm Series of texts between Lukes phone and Judys phone (Jodis phone was broken, so Jodi borrowed her mothers) 
4.39pm (approx) Judy plays a Rod Stewart track which lasts more than 5 minutes to Jodi and Joseph, leaving just 4 minutes for Jodi to get ready and leave in order for Bryson to have spotted her at 4.48
4.48-4.54pm Andrina Bryson sees a girl and a youth on the entrance to the path
4.55pm Luke phones his mothers work and speaks to his grandmother
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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #868 on: October 25, 2022, 09:17:07 PM »
Ana is so deluded she appears to have forgotten killer Luke Mitchell’s guilt has been proven

Ana Azaria
 Lyndsay Mcneill That article also quotes Jodi's friend as saying that no one could do what was done to Jodi and not be psychotic - the last person seen following Jodi suffered psychosis and had cancelled an appointment with his mental health nurse in the day of the murder. This was not before the jury at all. During assessment, Luke was not found to have any mental health issues. If the police had carried out thorough investigation, we wouldn't have all these questions.
I’m not sure what you mean in regards to the phone calls, there wasn't any evidence of calls to Jodi's friends being made, not from the numbers logged in the files

Lyndsay
Ana Azaria I don’t think the person would lie about getting a call from juj,we can’t dismiss everything that isn’t supportive of Luke being innocent everything has to be considered ! I know all about [Name removed] I knew him and live a street away . Someone calling you psychotic doesn’t mean you are psychotic means mental and anyone who kills isn’t only mental health it’s because of evil. This is why people think we are all conspiracy theorists anything anyone says is shot down

Ana Azaria
Lyndsay Mcneill I totally get what you're saying, I try to be very aware of confirmation bias etc, and I've never felt the need to be biased, I don't have any emotional involvement in the case and I try to look at it objectively. My point was more that even if these things did turn out to be true - and I try to go by confirmed facts and not assume - but even if we consider that they might be - it still doesn't prove Luke's guilt. If you look at a list of all of the points of concern against everyone known to the investigation (and include the points you mentioned too), others have longer lists than Luke's. But we need more definitive evidence/proof. If the investigation had been carried out far more thoroughly and hadn't been such a farse, we wouldn't be left with so many of these questions.


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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #869 on: October 25, 2022, 09:23:49 PM »
Ana is so deluded she appears to have forgotten killer Luke Mitchell’s guilt has been proven

Ana Azaria
 Lyndsay Mcneill That article also quotes Jodi's friend as saying that no one could do what was done to Jodi and not be psychotic - the last person seen following Jodi suffered psychosis and had cancelled an appointment with his mental health nurse in the day of the murder. This was not before the jury at all. During assessment, Luke was not found to have any mental health issues. If the police had carried out thorough investigation, we wouldn't have all these questions.
I’m not sure what you mean in regards to the phone calls, there wasn't any evidence of calls to Jodi's friends being made, not from the numbers logged in the files

Lyndsay
Ana Azaria I don’t think the person would lie about getting a call from juj,we can’t dismiss everything that isn’t supportive of Luke being innocent everything has to be considered ! I know all about [Name removed] I knew him and live a street away . Someone calling you psychotic doesn’t mean you are psychotic means mental and anyone who kills isn’t only mental health it’s because of evil. This is why people think we are all conspiracy theorists anything anyone says is shot down

Ana Azaria
Lyndsay Mcneill I totally get what you're saying, I try to be very aware of confirmation bias etc, and I've never felt the need to be biased, I don't have any emotional involvement in the case and I try to look at it objectively. My point was more that even if these things did turn out to be true - and I try to go by confirmed facts and not assume - but even if we consider that they might be - it still doesn't prove Luke's guilt. If you look at a list of all of the points of concern against everyone known to the investigation (and include the points you mentioned too), others have longer lists than Luke's. But we need more definitive evidence/proof. If the investigation had been carried out far more thoroughly and hadn't been such a farse, we wouldn't be left with so many of these questions.


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Someone needs to tell Ana that Sandra Lean’s ‘evidence’ is not the same as the actual factual evidence
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Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation