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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2070 on: February 26, 2023, 05:49:31 AM »
Sandra Lean
If we insert neighbour's sighting into that, the prosecution case is that Luke, having escaped unnoticed, cleaned up and been identified sitting, perfectly normal,  on a wall at the end of his street by 5.45pm, messed around in the woods with his mates, returned home, went out again to be seen returning half an hour later (having disposed of the weapon - the clothing part was dropped when they decided Corinne had burned it in the garden), went out again 20 - 30 minutes later to take the dog for a walk.
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When does Sandra Lean say the police/prosecution made the claim it was Corinne Mitchell who burnt killer Luke Mitchell’s clothes in the garden?

Killer Luke Mitchell told the police on the 1st July 2003 his mother and brother - Corinne and Shane Mitchell - had a fire in the garden on the night of the 30th June 2003
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2071 on: February 26, 2023, 08:33:50 AM »
Linzi Brown
Sorry for the long post but I have just listened to the "Through the wall: the case against Luke Mitchell" podcast with Nioami Channel.
Firstly, I'd like to point out that just because someone is breathing air and their heart is beating doesn't mean they are living! With that being said, when they eventually do put the correct person behind bars, and they will. That person needs to be charged with 2 counts of murder. Jodi's horrific murder was terrible but the person that did this also murdered a 14 year old boy the minute Luke found the body. Not only because he was convicted of the murder which is horrendous but because as a 14 year old boy he had to witness that scene and seeing someone he loved and cared for gone forevermore.
Secondly, as Luke says in the interview on the podcast, his whole life is gone, experiences he should have had were robbed from him. He'll never get the chance to do all the things we did as young adults and twenty somethings. He's had to watch people move on with their lives while he's living inside a prison both physically and mentally.
The police say they convicted him on behalf of the people, WE ARE THE PEOPLE and they sure as s*** didn't convict him on behalf of me!!
 Do better police Scotland!
Police Scotland don't want him to get an appeal because they like to make other people own their s**** but don't want to do that themselves!!!


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Tony Conlin
Don't for one minute think that the people who investigated this case and were proven to have  got it wrong would admit to this, no they would be adamant that they were not looking for z yone else in connection with [Name removed]'s murder because thatcwould mean admitting theyed got it wrong, and it wouldn't be first time it has happened either

Carol Bain
Absolutely horrendous Police Scotland have done so much harm and wrong through the years. They won’t ale responsibility for the harm they’ve done.😡


Sandra Lean did admit she ‘got it wrong’ in early 2014

Sandra Lean admitted she believed killer Luke Mitchell murdered Jodi Jones

Then she published a second book in 2018 - before revising or withdrawing her first discredited book
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2072 on: February 26, 2023, 08:46:08 AM »
Tony Conlin
Don't for one minute think that the people who investigated this case and were proven to have  got it wrong would admit to this, no they would be adamant that they were not looking for z yone else in connection with [Name removed]'s murder because thatcwould mean admitting theyed got it wrong, and it wouldn't be first time it has happened either

Carol Bain
Absolutely horrendous Police Scotland have done so much harm and wrong through the years. They won’t ale responsibility for the harm they’ve done.😡


Sandra Lean did admit she ‘got it wrong’ in early 2014

Sandra Lean admitted she believed killer Luke Mitchell murdered Jodi Jones

Then she published a second book in 2018 - before revising or withdrawing her first discredited book

Why did Sandra Lean choose to publish a second book on sadistic killer Luke Mitchell before revising or withdrawing her first discredited book - which was (and is) full of lies, misinformation and disinformation and included false and misleading and manipulative narratives

And why did Sandra Lean choose to not include a copy of the psycho killers 22 page written witness statement?

Convicted Killer Luke Muir Mitchell Ref: 22 Page Witness Statement - Freedom Of Information Request (Part 167)
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http://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2023/02/23/convicted-killer-luke-muir-mitchells-22-page-witness-statement-freedom-of-information-request-part-166/
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2073 on: February 26, 2023, 09:06:18 AM »
Corinne Mitchell 5th May 2010
The Police claimed I had burnt the Parka jacket in my log burner. then replaced it with another. The Parka Luke was photographed in, in the Press was bought after the murder.....and the police have that as well.


When exactly did the police claim Corinne Mitchell burnt the parka jacket in her log burner?
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2074 on: February 26, 2023, 09:13:14 AM »
Why did Sandra Lean choose to publish a second book on sadistic killer Luke Mitchell before revising or withdrawing her first discredited book - which was (and is) full of lies, misinformation and disinformation and included false and misleading and manipulative narratives

And why did Sandra Lean choose to not include a copy of the psycho killers 22 page written witness statement?

Excerpt from Sandra Lean’s 1st discredited book No Smoke

The evidence presented in court was purely circumstantial, and based on speculation and innuendo. The prosecution claimed that Luke had known where the body lay, and had carried out an extremely cold and calculating plan. He had escaped without detection, and his mother had burned his clothes in the back garden.

When, during sadistic murderer Luke Mitchell’s trial, did the prosecution claim Corinne Mitchell had burned her killer sons clothes Sandra?


Replying to a question from the prosecutor, Mrs Mitchell denied she could 'see no wrong in anything Luke did'.
Mr Turnbull asked: 'Isn't it nearer the truth to say you would be prepared to lie to cover up to protect him?'
Mrs Mitchell replied: 'That's not true.'
She said her son left home at 5.40pm - about 30 minutes after the time it's believed Jodi was murdered - and that he phoned at 6.40pm.
Mr Turnbull asked: 'Is it just a coincidence that between 6.30pm and 7pm neighbours noticed the smell of burning coming from your back garden?'


The next piece of information which gave detectives cause for suspicion concerned the wood burning stove in the Mitchell’s back garden.
Mitchell told police that his mother Corinne and brother Shane were using the stove that night. Corinne said it was not being used and Shane was not able to say either way. "We also had reports from neighbours saying they had smelled burning coming from the Mitchell’s back garden that night," said Mr Dobbie.
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2075 on: February 26, 2023, 09:20:56 AM »
1st July 2003 - Sadistic psycho killer Luke Mitchell makes a 22 page written statement while his mother Corinne Mitchell sat next to him in Dalkeith police station

3rd July 2003 - Suspicion falls on sadistic psycho killer Luke Mitchell

"It wasn’t until July 3 that our suspicions about Luke increased. We had a degree of suspicion, but not enough to detain him.

"Things were starting to piece together - things his school friends were saying about him carrying knives; the sighting by the witness Andrina Bryson - who claimed she had seen Luke with a girl standing at the top of the Roan’s Dyke path on the day she was killed; and, most importantly, the difference in the statements given by Jodi’s family about how Jodi’s body had been found and Luke’s version of events.

"However, we still had to be aware that Luke was providing a statement voluntarily and that he may have been deeply traumatised at the time." ~ Craig Dobbie

4th July 2003 - Sadistic psycho Luke Mitchell questioned under caution

We made it clear he was under caution - it was only fair to him to do so. This was when he further entrenched his position.
"This was a few days on after the killing so what he was saying at this stage was probably more accurate.
"There were critical differences in what he was saying about when the body was found. The family were consistent in their evidence.
"They all said Luke never walked past the V in the wall before climbing over and discovering the body. But Luke’s version was completely different.
"He said he walked past the wall a considerable distance and the dog reacted at the point relating to where Jodi’s body was.
"We couldn’t get away from this conflict in versions. We tried to eliminate Luke from our inquiries but we just couldn’t."~ Craig Dobbie


8th July 2003 - Corinne Mitchell buys her psycho killer son a replacement parka jacket

Then there was the parka jacket," he added. "We spoke to friends, school teachers and others who knew Mitchell and established he had a parka jacket. The eye witnesses had also made references to a long parka style jacket. His mother said he had never owned one.

"When we searched the house, the parka was missing.

"But friends and family were adamant that he owned one. We also had the information about the wood burner and we started to paint a picture."

However, Mr Dobbie did not want to detain Mitchell until the DNA test results had come back from the lab.

"When the results came back there was not one DNA profile which could not be accounted for. Every profile belonged to people who knew Jodi, including Luke. However, what we didn’t have was DNA from someone unknown, which ruled out anyone unknown as the killer."

14th August 2003 - Psycho killer Luke Mitchell faced further questioning by police

Mr Dobbie said: "In August we detained Luke for further questioning. We searched his house again and his father’s house but still there was no evidence of the jacket that we believed to have existed before the murder, or of any knife.

"At this stage, unless Luke gave us a confession or took us to the knife, we did not want to arrest him. We did not want to go down that road unless we were 100 per cent confident the circumstantial evidence we had was correct.


15th August 2003 - Psycho killer Luke Mitchell orchestrates being photographed in his replacement parka in the hope this will confuse potential witnesses

22nd August 2003 - Dangerous psycho killer Luke Mitchell returned to school

"It wasn’t until October that we believed that we had grounds to report Luke to the procurator fiscal for a circumstantial case” ~ Craig Dobbie


14th April 2004 - Dangerous psycho killer Luke Mitchell arrested

”It was on this day that Mitchell’s house was searched again and Shane Mitchell admitted he had been looking at porn on the internet on the day of Jodi’s death.

He said he would not have done this if there was other people in the house - which did not support Luke’s alibi that he was at home with Shane at the time Jodi was killed.

Mr Dobbie said: "When we searched the house we also found a knife pouch with the inscription ‘[Name removed] 1989-2003’ and the numbers 666 written on it and one of Jodi’s favourite quotes. It was like some kind of memorial to Jodi.

"We made inquiries and discovered that Mrs Mitchell had bought a knife which came with a pouch identical to this one in December 2003. She said she had bought it for him to go on a camping trip. But why purchase that knife. It seemed bizarre, bearing in mind Jodi had been killed and that her son was a suspect.

"We started to question whether that knife was a replacement to one he had previously."
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Offline Parky41

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2076 on: February 26, 2023, 09:24:31 AM »
So you think she knew about his last relationship and the fact he was going on holiday there and his “ex” would be there might have caused an argument. I can totally see that happening, I’m sure if she knew she would definitely be worried about him meeting up with his ex. Does anyone know if she wrote about it in her diary or mentioned it to friends. I kept a diary at that age, that is definitely something she would put in there, unless she was worried Luke might read it. I use to use code with things I was worried my mum might read, was there anything like that in the diary?

Excellent - There you go then. If Jodi had been made aware at school that day of any contact with KT, tying in with him going to Kenmore, then just like you were at that age, you would have been having it out with him? Every chance she did, the girl had no phone, perhaps she borrowed his for something at school and saw those calls from the early hours of Sunday morning. All those possibilities around the unknown that paved no way to be scrawling in a diary or running to friends - Talking of friends.

The claim that LM would have numbers of friends that Jodi's mother would not have - Let us look at this. They had been going out for around 3months, the actual friend they hung out with together was LW, she was away on a school trip. The boys in the Abbey, certainly not them. A ruse? Something said to make it sound like he had reason to make claim of going to Jodi's house, there were no phone numbers, was there? You should be asking for the excerpts from his interviews around who those claimed friends were, for you can bet that LM was asked this?

We know he was not heading to her house, we know he should have been at it, not just over half way up that path. We know he lied to SL repeatedly in 2003 and we know she is fully aware of this. She has been asked who the imaginary friends were from his list of contacts. Even scraping at one would have had him hand it over by phone or indeed call it himself, as said, a ruse?

Those leading answers one will get, such as highlighted on repeat by Nicholas - That the boys from the Abbey backed LM's time of arriving home? No they did not, the boys left LM and headed off in the opposite direction, no one backed LM arriving home just after 9pm, certainly was not a 40min walk to get there. Seen arriving home at 10pm, making that journey in excess of an hour, that is what you call the backing of any times of his arrival.

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2077 on: February 26, 2023, 09:54:31 AM »
We know he lied to SL repeatedly in 2003 and we know she is fully aware of this.

100 %

Sandra Lean stated in early 2014 she had been duped by the Mitchell’s

Also around this time she claimed to be doing some renovations to her fire and needed parts for the chimney

The parts were paid for by someone else and sent directly to Sandra

Sandra also claimed around this time she had allegedly almost died of carbon monoxide poisoning
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Offline faithlilly

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2078 on: February 26, 2023, 10:31:28 AM »
OK, firstly, Jodi Jones would have been fully aware of LM's planned holiday, he was not just going to say to her on the day he was going away. Did she know about KT from there, then every probability - LW first of all, friend of LM's for years would know his other girlfriends. Every chance LM would have told Jodi of relationships had. Therefore yes, a very high probability she knew of the girl and definitely knew that LM was going on holiday there.

Jodi had been on punishments for weeks, a tough time no doubt - Fully lifted that day, of course the girl was going to be upbeat about this being lifted. If she knew of the girl, the holiday, something troubling her, then having the opportunity to have this out with LM sooner than later, is also reason for lifting her mood. We are told the girl was of strong character, someone who would without doubt have pulled LM around this. As stated before, adoration to confrontation - A red rag to some natures?

The first part of you post I think Jodi would certainly have been aware of Kimberley and probably for quite some time yet nothing in her diary to suggest that she had a problem with it. At the time of her relationship with Luke what was his relationship with Kimberley…a few phone calls? The relationship was not sexual as Luke’s friend testified to in court.

The second part of your post is simply nonsense and shows your total lack of understanding of young girls. Jodi had every opportunity to confront Luke about his ‘other relationship’ at school, on Saturday night when she was at his house etc etc. Her strength of character suggests that if she had a problem there would be immediacy in her actions. None of her friends claimed Jodi had any doubts about Luke with other girls, likewise her mother.

I understand that this HAD to be the motive because there really was nothing else. This is the young boy Jodi described as ‘ stroking her cheek when she was crying’. This really does appear to be a straw clutching exercise yet again by yourself.
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2079 on: February 26, 2023, 11:03:18 AM »
Sandra Lean (today)
WAKE UP.  You’re being lied to. They’re taking the proverbial out of you. Boiling you like a frog.


With every new victim, his predatory skills were sharpened, and he became craftier at luring his targets to the metaphorical stove with the giant pot of water

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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2080 on: February 26, 2023, 11:45:25 AM »
Heather Brunt
Just Finished Scott Forbes Book This 14 Year Old Child Has Been Abused, The Worst Kind Of Child Abuse


Jodi Jones’ memory has most definitely been abused - by her sadistic killer Luke Mitchell, and his enablers - mother Corinne Mitchell, Sandra Lean and Scott Forbes

Caroline Ramsay
Well said Heather, that poor young man was used and abused that fateful night. x


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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2081 on: February 26, 2023, 11:48:38 AM »
Gary Peden
Wasn't there a parker in evidence that was obtained from another address? Maybe I'm misremebering, but even that had no DNA total stich up, if you believe Dorothy Bain sat beside Alan Turnbull sat across the dinner table and never spoke of this case then you probably believe we're in a computer game

Ana Azaria
Gary Peden There was yes - but we don't actually know if they tested it. It was taken from another address, but the Police had said they'd only searched Luke's house - another lie!


Who said the police only searched murderer Luke Mitchell’s house?
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2082 on: February 26, 2023, 12:05:24 PM »
Excerpt from Sandra Lean’s 1st discredited book No Smoke

The evidence presented in court was purely circumstantial, and based on speculation and innuendo. The prosecution claimed that Luke had known where the body lay, and had carried out an extremely cold and calculating plan. He had escaped without detection, and his mother had burned his clothes in the back garden.

When, during sadistic murderer Luke Mitchell’s trial, did the prosecution claim Corinne Mitchell had burned her killer sons clothes Sandra?


Replying to a question from the prosecutor, Mrs Mitchell denied she could 'see no wrong in anything Luke did'.
Mr Turnbull asked: 'Isn't it nearer the truth to say you would be prepared to lie to cover up to protect him?'
Mrs Mitchell replied: 'That's not true.'
She said her son left home at 5.40pm - about 30 minutes after the time it's believed Jodi was murdered - and that he phoned at 6.40pm.
Mr Turnbull asked: 'Is it just a coincidence that between 6.30pm and 7pm neighbours noticed the smell of burning coming from your back garden?'


The next piece of information which gave detectives cause for suspicion concerned the wood burning stove in the Mitchell’s back garden.
Mitchell told police that his mother Corinne and brother Shane were using the stove that night. Corinne said it was not being used and Shane was not able to say either way. "We also had reports from neighbours saying they had smelled burning coming from the Mitchell’s back garden that night," said Mr Dobbie.


Excerpt from Sandra Lean’s 1st discredited book No Smoke

A great deal was made of the "fact" that a parka jacket that Luke had been wearing that night had disappeared, "burned," the prosecution claimed, in a log burner in the back garden by Luke‟s mother Corrine

When, during the trial, did the prosecution claim Corinne Mitchell burned the parka in the back garden Sandra?
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2083 on: February 26, 2023, 12:08:08 PM »
Excerpt from Sandra Lean’s 1st discredited book No Smoke

A great deal was made of the "fact" that a parka jacket that Luke had been wearing that night had disappeared, "burned," the prosecution claimed, in a log burner in the back garden by Luke‟s mother Corrine

When, during the trial, did the prosecution claim Corinne Mitchell burned the parka in the back garden Sandra?

And when during the trial was it suggested the previous parka jacket had been replaced by an identical one Sandra?

Further excerpt from Sandra Lean’s 1st discredited book No Smoke

If Luke Mitchell had committed such a brutal murder, wearing such a recognisable garment, is it feasible to believe that his mother would provide him with an identical (and therefore readily identifiable) one?
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2084 on: February 26, 2023, 12:19:36 PM »
Danielle Bbarclay
Geraldine Dunn  it gets to me....Luke only went up that path as he told JuJ he would head to her home to help contact others and help, the path is the way both Jodi and Luke would use between Newbattle and Easthouses.  How on earth AW,SK and JaJ had reached that part of the path (the Easthouse end of path which has lady path and paths leading into the woods) by the time Luke had got there. The timings from calls from JuJ and Luke and others statements makes that really questionable...why where they there already?


They weren’t!

Psycho murderer Luke Mitchell was ‘there already’
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