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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2490 on: April 03, 2023, 08:43:41 PM »

Prof David Wilson
@ProfDavidWilson
I am feeling ridiculously pleased with myself - finally tracked down the keyboard warrior who was always reviewing my books on Amazon as 1* - uncovered who he was (he used a pseudonym) found his work telephone  number and then called him!
1:14 PM · Apr 3, 2023

Mark
@Doc_Wynn
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@ProfDavidWilson
Genuine question...
What if his genuine opinion was that they (your books or anybody's for that matter) weren't very good?
Where does an author stand in regards to this kind of thing?
1:22 PM · Apr 3, 2023

Prof David Wilson
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@Doc_Wynn
You accept that your books don’t appeal to everyone - that’s fine.  However when the reviews are personal and not professional that’s another matter.
1:39 PM · Apr 3, 2023

https://twitter.com/ProfDavidWilson/status/1642863131293523970


What a moron!

Someone’s written a ‘two star’ review on Amazon under his book ‘My life with murderers’

’Having read a few of books by the same author I did not expect too much from this one, and I am afraid I was not disappointed. The author, I hope, expected a rather better quality of work from his post graduate students than what he produces in his books. He gives 'facts' without any evidence, is often simplistic in his prejudices and often deals very briefly about complex issues. There's no footnotes nor an index. For example he tells us, twice, that 104 women are killed each year (since when?) by husbands/boyfriends, 2 per week in fact. Does this occur every year, year in year out? Wilson clearly believes so, but this terrible statistical record surely has variations over time. Likewise, he tells us that black people are not naturally criminally disposed. I am glad to hear it but a little evidence might be useful (when I did my doctorate facts and references were needed; the author here clearly thinks not). It also seems odd that he states black people and Muslims are deemed less trustworthy, which may be true, but he provides no evidence for this and as ever, he is giving a rather one sided slant to this. In fact it all seemed rather like a long article in the Guardian or Observer, where the audience is deemed to share the author's world view, rather than a proper, serious, book by an academic, who should attempt to rein in his prejudices or at least provide proper evidence for them.

The book is a mix of memoir and commentary. The author relates a few interviews he's had with convicted killers; an unnamed man and also Dennis Nilsen. He talks about his time in the prison service but less about his academic career, and provides commentary about serious crimes he only knows from second hand, eg the Dunblane killings, and displays his usual anti-police prejudice. This is not always justified. If he has read Master's book on Nilsen, as he suggests he has, he should recall that the author (a homosexual so hardly a homophobe) discusses three instances where Nilsen's crimes were reported but not followed up and in these instances it was a case of witnesses making themselves unavailable or withdrawing charges, not the fault of the police.

There's a lot more here which derives from his previous work and he's not shy of repeating himself. If only people could be better behaved, and the economy is at the root of crime. Not much evidence of this provided, of course. Britain had fewer murders and no serial ones in the 1930s depression, but in the full employment decades that followed, the number soared, but this hardly fits the book's thesis so is excluded, assuming the author is aware of the fact.

He recommends a previous book of his (naturally), but it is one largely based on merely secondary sources (so can say little original about these cases and repeats errors already long in print), again hopefully not something he recommended/tolerated from his students. Very much a case of 'Do as I say not do as I do'.

This book could have been better if it had stuck to being a memoir of the author's experiences and more detailed, and fact based, in his recommendations. A critical friend might have been of use in modifying this at a later stage of writing. Instead he goes off along varied pathways which detract from the earlier and generally more interesting chapters, where he clearly knows what he's talking about as he's writing from first hand experience. A little more on his academic life might also have been interested, as well as his media career, given the many TV true crime shows he's appeared on as a universal expert witness, given he's spent more of his time doing this than working in prisons.
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2491 on: April 03, 2023, 09:01:56 PM »

What a moron!

Another moronic creep is that Roddy McCleod

During the latest nonsense video, grifter Sandra Lean replies to Roddy McCleod that killer Luke Mitchell phoned the police

Roddy and Scott Forbes then talk about ‘missing’ children and where the police allegedly go to when there are reports of ‘missing’ children

They refer to Reed drive and ‘missing’ children then Roddy McClead refers to a ‘dead child’

The gaslighting/double binds are off the scale and smack of desperation

 *&^^&

Did sadistic killer Luke tell police Jodi Jones was ‘missing’ when he phoned them?

« Last Edit: April 03, 2023, 09:30:02 PM by Nicholas »
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline faithlilly

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2492 on: April 03, 2023, 09:52:06 PM »
Sadistic killer Luke Mitchell’s behaviour - from at least the age of 12 - was already showing signs of psychopathy


Kara Van Null gave evidence to the police - ‘hours of statements’ - prior to killer Luke Mitchell’s arrest for his murder

Why does ‘lawyer’ Sandra Lean choose to dismiss these girls evidence and serious allegations and massive red flags?

The question shouldn’t be why Dr Lean dismisses the girl’s evidence but why after ‘hours and hours of statements’ the police did too. She obviously wasn’t seen as a credible witness or she would have been called to give evidence.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2493 on: April 03, 2023, 09:56:03 PM »
Sandra Lean
Tracy Anderson Yes!!! A new generation of MSPs who don't know (or don't remember) the case from 2003. Keep with it, and thank you!!!

Sandra Lean
Xllawrie XSammy Yes!!!! This is what we need. Better still that she knows nothing of the case, but is still happy to contact the justice secretary because one of her constituents has concerns. That's the job we vote them in to do - the job we pay them to do!!!


A ‘new generation’ of people who have no idea the pretend ’new evidence’ was from 20 years ago

The ‘red herrings’ regarding circumstantial dna evidence were already known about and an agreement was made by psycho killer and his legal team to not use the circumstantial dna evidence because of the ‘intimate relationship’

 *&^^&
« Last Edit: April 03, 2023, 09:59:27 PM by Nicholas »
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2494 on: April 03, 2023, 10:00:37 PM »
The question shouldn’t be why Dr Lean dismisses the girl’s evidence but why after ‘hours and hours of statements’ the police did too.

How did the police dismiss Kara Van Null’s evidence if they took hours of statement/s from her

 *&^^&
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2495 on: April 03, 2023, 10:03:15 PM »
She obviously wasn’t seen as a credible witness or she would have been called to give evidence.

Killer Luke Mitchell’s legal team clearly didn’t think their client was credible and appear to have advised him not to give evidence during his own trial because he wasn’t credible

Did Philip Mitchell give evidence?

Did Philip Mitchell’s partner give evidence?

Anyone know?
« Last Edit: April 03, 2023, 10:36:28 PM by Nicholas »
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2496 on: April 03, 2023, 11:18:40 PM »
‘Pro Knox Woman’ Michelle Moore Moderator For Cult-Like Sadistic & Psychopath Killer’s Facebook Group (Part 82)
👇
http://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2022/10/23/killer-luke-mitchell-pro-knox-woman-michelle-moore-moderator-for-cult-like-sadistic-psychopath-killers-facebook-group-part-82/

Michelle Moore mentioned above is married to Steve Moore mentioned below

Doug Preston, John Douglas, Steve Moore and Bruce Fischer are by no means the only crackpots in America perpetrating innocence fraud.

Their main distinction was to perpetrate it in English against a victim and a police and court system of other countries, using ignorance and smears and a largely complicit American media to trample hard truths in the case.

But innocence fraud is still a tiny industry in Italy as compared with the godzilla it is becoming in America - often with politically vulnerable judges and usually with naive do-gooders in compliance.


http://truejustice.org/ee/index.php/casestolearnfrom/comments/artificially_controversial_adnan_syed_case_adds_to_tilt_against_victims

Michelle Moore comments here https://youtu.be/eP2t4XmT3Bk

Michelle Moore is a ‘moderator’ for one of psychopathic killer Luke Mitchell innocence fraud promoting Facebook groups https://www.facebook.com/michellesings
« Last Edit: April 03, 2023, 11:27:52 PM by Nicholas »
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline faithlilly

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2497 on: April 03, 2023, 11:37:52 PM »
How did the police dismiss Kara Van Null’s evidence if they took hours of statement/s from her

 *&^^&

Null’s evidence would be have been strong corroboration of the Crown’s contention that Luke was a youth who was fascinated by knives and violence, corroboration that in a circumstantial case like his would have been extremely important, and yet she wasn’t called as a witness. There can only be two reasons for this either; a) the whole story, the attack, the police etc was simply made up or b) Null was not thought to be a credible witness. Who knows which one it was but we have stories of multiple people mentioned in the media, all claiming that they saw Luke using a knife in a violent fashion or were victims of his fascination with knives and violence and yet not one of these people were called to give evidence in court.

Odd that.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2498 on: April 03, 2023, 11:37:56 PM »
Michelle Moore comments here https://youtu.be/eP2t4XmT3Bk

Michelle Moore is a ‘moderator’ for one of psychopathic killer Luke Mitchell innocence fraud promoting Facebook groups https://www.facebook.com/michellesings

Naive Killer Cult-Like Follower Sharon Indy Sunshine’s Projections (Part 104)
👇
http://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2022/10/30/killer-luke-mitchell-naive-cult-like-follower-sharon-indy-sunshines-projections-part-104/

Sharon Indy Sunshine - another women who supports numerous dangerous, convicted killers is an admin for the Facebook group

Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2499 on: April 03, 2023, 11:40:46 PM »
Null’s evidence would be have been strong corroboration of the Crown’s contention that Luke was a youth who was fascinated by knives and violence, corroboration that in a circumstantial case like his would have been extremely important, and yet she wasn’t called as a witness.

Odd that.

Donald Findlay, and psycho killer Luke Mitchell would have argued to ensure Kara Van Null was not called to give evidence

or b) Null was not thought to be a credible witness.

What about Philip Mitchell and his partner - why weren’t they called to give evidence?
« Last Edit: April 03, 2023, 11:44:13 PM by Nicholas »
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline faithlilly

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2500 on: April 03, 2023, 11:55:11 PM »
Donald Findlay, and psycho killer Luke Mitchell would have argued to ensure Kara Van Null was not called to give evidence

What about Philip Mitchell and his partner - why weren’t they called to give evidence?

What legal argument could they have used to stop Null testifying? There are none.

Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline faithlilly

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2501 on: April 04, 2023, 12:03:05 AM »
Ignoring the pejorative tone of the article below it does go some way to disproving the lie that Luke’s father had disowned him.

‘MONSTER Luke Mitchell threw a 25-minute tantrum behind bars because prison officers wouldn't let him speak to his mum.

The boy killer of Jodi Jones cracked and started whining after he was refused a phone call home. A source said: 'He was shouting, bawling and greeting.'

Officers at Polmont Young Offenders Institution grabbed Mitchell and forced him back into his cell.

His mother and father rushed to visit him yesterday as he struggled to adapt to life as a convict. Mitchell showed no emotion on Friday as he was found guilty of strangling and butchering girlfriend Jodi when they were both only 14.

But the killer's coolness deserted him on his first night in Polmont.

New inmates are only allowed to use designated phone numbers for calls to their families.

But after staff got no reply from Mitchell's mother's land line, he demanded that they call her mobile - a number which wasn't on their list.

The officers refused and Mitchell threw a fit.

The Record's source said: 'He was shouting and bawling and refusing to go back in his cell, all the time greetin' about how he wanted to speak to his mammy.

'Officers were reluctant to lay hands on him and there was a bit of a stand-off.

'Mitchell was also refusing to wear the clothes he had been given because he was handed a white T-shirt.

'He said: 'I've never worn a f***ing white T-shirt in my life.' 'After he had kicked off for 25 minutes, the staff got fed up of his whingeing and realised they would have to bring him under control.

'They grabbed him and put him back in his cell.

'Mitchell will have to learn he is locked up now, and isn't the one in control any more.

'No one cares what he wants.' Mitchell threw his tantrum at 7.15 on Saturday evening, hours after arriving at his new home. He spent Friday night at Saughton jail in Edinburgh before being moved.

Yesterday, his mother and father drove to Polmont to comfort him - with a mystery girl friend of Mitchell in tow.

Corinne Mitchell, accused in court of lying for her son to give him an alibi, emerged from her home in Dalkeith, Midlothian, in skin-tight jeans, knee-length boots and a black top which exposed her midriff.

With her was a teenage girl who looked like one of Mitchell's Goth pals.

She had long dyed black hair and a lip stud, and wore a striped brown blazer festooned with badges, a black T-shirt and baggy ripped jeans.

The pair got into Mrs Mitchell's J-reg BMW for the 50-minute drive to Polmont. They were joined there by Mitchell's dad, Philip, who made his own way from Livingston, West Lothian, in a white works van.

It was the first time Mitchell's parents had been seen together since the murder inquiry began in June2003.

The couple split in 1999 and divorced in 2002, and their relationship has remained frosty.

Mr and Mrs Mitchell and the girl wandered from the car park to the gates to register for the 1.30pm visit.

They were inside for an hour and 20minutes and emerged laughing and joking. But their mood changed when they spotted journalists outside.

Mr Mitchell followed and berated one photographer, then tried to use his van to stop his ex-wife being photographed as she left. As a matter of routine, Mitchell has been placed on suicide watch at Polmont. ‘

https://www.thefreelibrary.com/LUKE+CRIES+FOR+HIS+MUMMY%3B+MITCHELL%27S+FIRST+NIGHT+BEHIND+BARS+..+and...-a0127525554

Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2502 on: April 04, 2023, 12:19:49 AM »
Ignoring the pejorative tone of the article below it does go some way to disproving the lie that Luke’s father had disowned him.

Who said Philip Mitchell has ‘disowned’ his killer son?

It was known in 2010 Philip Mitchell had attended a court hearing 
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2503 on: April 04, 2023, 12:22:00 AM »
‘Yesterday, his mother and father drove to Polmont to comfort him - with a mystery girl friend of Mitchell in tow.
https://www.thefreelibrary.com/LUKE+CRIES+FOR+HIS+MUMMY%3B+MITCHELL%27S+FIRST+NIGHT+BEHIND+BARS+..+and...-a0127525554

And Gemma Chapman wasn’t a ‘mystery girlfriend’ she was another of killer Luke Mitchell’s victims who had also attended his trial

It was via Gemma Chapman that the original trial was halted
« Last Edit: April 04, 2023, 12:24:38 AM by Nicholas »
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2504 on: April 04, 2023, 12:41:04 AM »
And Gemma Chapman wasn’t a ‘mystery girlfriend’ she was another of killer Luke Mitchell’s victims who had also attended his trial

Wouldn’t be surprised to learn Gemma Chapman received hassle from people like Sandra Lean and Corinne Mitchell after she realised she was groomed and conned by the psycho killer
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation