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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2580 on: April 07, 2023, 05:16:41 PM »
Presumably, because she believes they are.

Or possibly ‘suffers’ from hybristophilia ?
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2581 on: April 07, 2023, 05:18:55 PM »
Scott Forbes is creepy

Sandra Lean’s former boyfriend un-convicted baby killer Billy Middleton was also extremely creepy

Why does she choose to pretend predatory killers and rapists (Martin Done) are innocent ?

Rapist Martin Done https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/8086104.hooded-rapist-jailed-17-years-on/

Presumably, because she believes they are.

In reality - Sandra Lean is telling bare faced lies to people about actually, factually guilty killers (Simon Hall as one example) in an attempt at ‘brainwashing’ anyone who will believe her bare faced lies - She’s attempting to ‘re-brand’ the dangerous predators for her own ends
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Offline Parky41

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2582 on: April 07, 2023, 05:26:24 PM »
Sonia Poulton talking about dangerous women on her show then introduces Sandra Lean
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The latest this morning - Seriously, same old over and over again.

We can't appeal around "hidden" samples from a murder victims body because only testing will reveal if it is new evidence. Shall we have that again? We can't appeal around "hidden" samples from a murder victims body because only testing will reveal if it is new evidence! - Oops, forget the part where the claim is that they were never tested, seriously, samples taken from a murder victims body never tested - As, bloody if, and these are samples gathered in the first instance, the morning of July 1st.

Gullible - Seriously? 'You won't know what the samples are if they were never tested or hidden?' - We do, there is semen and sperm! Dam those clever little blighters, they do not need testing, they self identify!

Of course the samples were tested, of course they were NEVER hidden from anyone - Let us apply reality here, IF there was actually the discovery of undisclosed forensic samples it would be massive, it would open up many floodgates, it is bollocks, as per.

The naughty policeman said "Oops" we destroyed those! And again, the only thing illegal to happen here, without a doubt, by any form of admittance, is the destruction of someones property. Several times I have asked the question now and do so again -

Did the police destroy personal belongings of LM or his family without consulting with him first? For I would bet my bottom dollar there lies that fragment truth of illegal destruction of anything, a civil matter where new legal representation would gain legal aid to help with this - It really does all fit into place, for NOTHING else does. no wrong doing where it counts.

And again, there was no putting a stop to samples in a lab being destroyed, they would not have been up for destruction in the first place.

Full disclosure still to date - Here is our list, our long long list All intact for you all to see! - Those loud bells!
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Offline Parky41

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2583 on: April 07, 2023, 05:52:22 PM »
The latest this morning - Seriously, same old over and over again.

We can't appeal around "hidden" samples from a murder victims body because only testing will reveal if it is new evidence. Shall we have that again? We can't appeal around "hidden" samples from a murder victims body because only testing will reveal if it is new evidence! - Oops, forget the part where the claim is that they were never tested, seriously, samples taken from a murder victims body never tested - As, bloody if, and these are samples gathered in the first instance, the morning of July 1st.

Gullible - Seriously? 'You won't know what the samples are if they were never tested or hidden?' - We do, there is semen and sperm! Dam those clever little blighters, they do not need testing, they self identify!

Of course the samples were tested, of course they were NEVER hidden from anyone - Let us apply reality here, IF there was actually the discovery of undisclosed forensic samples it would be massive, it would open up many floodgates, it is bollocks, as per.

The naughty policeman said "Oops" we destroyed those! And again, the only thing illegal to happen here, without a doubt, by any form of admittance, is the destruction of someones property. Several times I have asked the question now and do so again -

Did the police destroy personal belongings of LM or his family without consulting with him first? For I would bet my bottom dollar there lies that fragment truth of illegal destruction of anything, a civil matter where new legal representation would gain legal aid to help with this - It really does all fit into place, for NOTHING else does. no wrong doing where it counts.

And again, there was no putting a stop to samples in a lab being destroyed, they would not have been up for destruction in the first place.

Full disclosure still to date - Here is our list, our long long list All intact for you all to see! - Those loud bells!

To add - The latest again via LM, to just keep letting it all out there, because there is no inroad for any legal action, the usual hype to keep focus on support. The forever claims of keeping it all under wraps for future legal proceedings, mmmmm.

What will NOT all be let out there of course, is anything to do with him directly, not his long statement on July 1st, not those actual forensic reports for all to see for themselves. Just the bog standard usual selections to suit ---------- And not the accurate reports from the SCCRC. Samples "believed to be ----" Just like those within those lists, odd that!

That gig on the 13th of June, and as has been confirmed, not one but two people who actually recorded it - Front of stage far right in front. LM with [Name removed] by his side, he is wearing that army style, khaki jacket! - Perhaps now with all falling flat yet again, that footage may very well make its way into the public domain, fully!

But it is not the one taken from Woodburn, tested one would assume for that very reason, to eliminate all possibility of LM making any such claims. Just a thought ----

It is however been spoken of more and more, only this morning posted on Twitter - I had said before, whilst many people fall under the spell of the hype, here are many more who doubt the whole lot because of that jacket alone, the many people who knew it existed pre-murder. If one is denying all knowledge of that then it stands to reason no trust can be placed anywhere else -

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2584 on: April 07, 2023, 06:35:58 PM »
To add - The latest again via LM, to just keep letting it all out there, because there is no inroad for any legal action, the usual hype to keep focus on support. The forever claims of keeping it all under wraps for future legal proceedings, mmmmm.

What will NOT all be let out there of course, is anything to do with him directly, not his long statement on July 1st, not those actual forensic reports for all to see for themselves. Just the bog standard usual selections to suit ---------- And not the accurate reports from the SCCRC. Samples "believed to be ----" Just like those within those lists, odd that!

That gig on the 13th of June, and as has been confirmed, not one but two people who actually recorded it - Front of stage far right in front. LM with [Name removed] by his side, he is wearing that army style, khaki jacket! - Perhaps now with all falling flat yet again, that footage may very well make its way into the public domain, fully!

But it is not the one taken from Woodburn, tested one would assume for that very reason, to eliminate all possibility of LM making any such claims. Just a thought ----

It is however been spoken of more and more, only this morning posted on Twitter - I had said before, whilst many people fall under the spell of the hype, here are many more who doubt the whole lot because of that jacket alone, the many people who knew it existed pre-murder. If one is denying all knowledge of that then it stands to reason no trust can be placed anywhere else -

Who is ‘name removed’?
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Mr Apples

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2585 on: April 07, 2023, 06:52:42 PM »
Who is ‘name removed’?

His deceased girlfriend, presumably?

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2586 on: April 07, 2023, 06:57:27 PM »
His deceased girlfriend, presumably?

You sure if wasn’t Paul?
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Mr Apples

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2587 on: April 07, 2023, 07:01:35 PM »
You sure if wasn’t Paul?

You mean his dad, Philip?

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2588 on: April 07, 2023, 07:10:14 PM »
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Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Mr Apples

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2589 on: April 07, 2023, 07:13:25 PM »
No I meant Hammy http://ramageinc.net/

Never heard of Hammy. Was he a friend of LM's at the time?

Offline Mr Apples

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2590 on: April 07, 2023, 07:16:52 PM »
Oh, the fill-in drummer who was supposedly related to Jodi?

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2591 on: April 07, 2023, 07:29:56 PM »
Oh, the fill-in drummer who was supposedly related to Jodi?

‘Friends and family’ (see CoA judgement) gave evidence during the trial that sadistic killer Luke Mitchell owned a khaki green parka type jacket before his murder

Was it Philip Mitchell who confirmed his killer son had the jacket?

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« Last Edit: April 07, 2023, 07:45:34 PM by Nicholas »
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2592 on: April 07, 2023, 07:53:55 PM »
Krissy Porteous
Gutted 😭 I’ve got a 20min wait at a bus stop,haven’t seen the new Sandra and Sonia interview and my phone battery on 1%…..I cannnnnny wait 😫😤🤯 but I’m glad I’m a bookworm cos I’ve got I’ve got Sandra’s book with me 🙌😁 🎉 i just thought I’d share the struggle!!

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Sandra Lean
Krissy You are an absolute glutton for punishment!!! Book AND interview in the same evening, on a Friday???


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Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Mr Apples

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2593 on: April 07, 2023, 07:54:23 PM »
‘Friends and family’ (see CoA judgement) gave evidence during the trial that sadistic killer Luke Mitchell owned a khaki green parka type jacket before his murder

Was it Philip Mitchell who confirmed his killer son had the jacket?

I read on a YT comments section in conjunction with one of SF's podcasts that LM's dad Philip said his son owned a parka jacket prior to the murder. The same poster also said  that Philip was at the gig with Luke and he had the exact same parka jacket as his son. I would imagine PM was called as a witness to court, and probably gave evidence about LM's missing jacket. At the very least, if my memory serves, PM gave a statement to police regarding his son's jacket.

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2594 on: April 07, 2023, 07:55:31 PM »
I read on a YT comments section in conjunction with one of SF's podcasts that LM's dad Philip said his son owned a parka jacket prior to the murder. The same poster also said  that Philip was at the gig with Luke and he had the exact same parka jacket as his son. I would imagine PM was called as a witness to court, and probably gave evidence about LM's missing jacket. At the very least, if my memory serves, PM gave a statement to police regarding his son's jacket.

Makes sense

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