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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2700 on: April 09, 2023, 06:47:45 PM »
Roddy Dunlop KC Does Not Appear To Back The Ludicrous Claims, By Sandra Lean & Scott Forbes, Of Anything Being ‘Hidden’ In That Great Big Melting Pot Of Confusion (Part 173)
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https://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2023/04/09/killer-luke-mitchell-roddy-dunlop-kc-does-not-appear-to-back-the-ludicrous-claims-by-sandra-lean-scott-forbes-of-anything-being-hidden-in-that-great-big-melting-pot-of-confu/
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2701 on: April 09, 2023, 06:51:03 PM »
From your link:

“ But an article from the Herald again contradicts what Sandra Lean stated. Keith Campbell was a 14 year old witness at the time of the trial – as can be read here.”

So there were no reporting restrictions or Keith Campbell wouldn’t have been identified due to his age.

Sandra Lean stated (in the link you referred to - below);

…all the ‘children’ at the time of Jodi’s murder were over 16 by the time of the trial

It was sadistic killer Luke Mitchell’s murder!

And

Keith Campbell was 14yrs old at the time of the trial - according to media reports

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https://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2023/02/19/killer-luke-mitchell-cofidence-trickster-sandra-lean-on-how-to-say-there-were-reporting-restrictions-without-saying-there-were-reporting-restrictions-part-163/
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2702 on: April 09, 2023, 06:54:01 PM »
SF's other theory is this erratic moped that had to be pushed most of the time was used to ferry the blood soaked killer away from the V break / crime scene and also maintains the killing took place elsewhere.

 *&^^&

Do fraudsters Scott Forbes and Sandra Lean refer to internal blood loss?
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2703 on: April 09, 2023, 07:38:22 PM »
Who confirmed the moped was destroyed days later? Before SF deleted all his You Tube comments there was an interesting comment from a local scrap expert saying that the bike would have remained in the local scrapyard for weeks or months before it was moved on to the main Lothian metal dealer. Even if it was squashed that day it would still have been on the premises to be tested if required.

The moped being ‘destroyed days later’ appears to be yet another speculative rumour doing the rounds.

And as usual - there has been no evidence to show this ever happened or that it was even a thought around the time

What the evidence does show is that the police were investigating bikes
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline faithlilly

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2704 on: April 09, 2023, 07:46:55 PM »
Sandra Lean stated (in the link you referred to - below);

…all the ‘children’ at the time of Jodi’s murder were over 16 by the time of the trial

It was sadistic killer Luke Mitchell’s murder!

And

Keith Campbell was 14yrs old at the time of the trial - according to media reports

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https://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2023/02/19/killer-luke-mitchell-cofidence-trickster-sandra-lean-on-how-to-say-there-were-reporting-restrictions-without-saying-there-were-reporting-restrictions-part-163/

She made a mistake. And….while trying to undermine Dr Lean you actually destroyed your own contention…that the testimony of children under 16 wasn’t reported in the media due to reporting restrictions.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2705 on: April 09, 2023, 08:19:56 PM »
Jigsawman aka Sandra Lean

Timeline Monday June 30th 2003.

5.03pm Luke phones the speaking clock from his mobile


Did killer Luke Mitchell telephone the speaking clock twice that evening?
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Parky41

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2706 on: April 09, 2023, 08:45:14 PM »
Who confirmed the moped was destroyed days later? Before SF deleted all his You Tube comments there was an interesting comment from a local scrap expert saying that the bike would have remained in the local scrapyard for weeks or months before it was moved on to the main Lothian metal dealer. Even if it was squashed that day it would still have been on the premises to be tested if required.

SF's other theory is this erratic moped that had to be pushed most of the time was used to ferry the blood soaked killer away from the V break / crime scene and also maintains the killing took place elsewhere.
Excellent point - My own research concluded that the local yards did not have crushers, very much taken elsewhere for that purpose.

But and again, why should that bike have been sought for testing at all? - There was no forensic evidence of multiple bodies present, bloody footprints going off in all directions, nor a snifter of those boys directly linked to anything to do with samples from the victim. - That world of fantasy of making any escape, those limited brain cells. That blue sweater without a doubt on top of the yellow football top did someone say? That cold summers day.

And again, excellent point around that clapped up bike! The trouble the boys had to get it going, doing so and having a couple of rides up and down the paths then home (witnessed).

The absolute lack of braincells here, honestly - NO viewpoint from over that V break, NO time, NO reason to be making their way down the inside of that wall some distance to have any viewpoint - And of course LM, those boys voices, any noise from the bike, fully alert to the fact of their presence in the vicinity.

This being seen at 5:15pm is on parallel with saying AB could not have seen LM for he had no phone in his hand! - Those estimates to times of her sighting, the guesstimates of time from the person in that car seeing a bike upon that path - OUT of that line of trees blocking the V break, blocking any view of the path or wall. It does not matter a dam if the boys admitted to their bike being stopped, it was NOT seen at the V break in that wall. Just as LM was later, up east from that break shining his torch over to the police!

Last points here - JF telling AW he was on the path just after 4pm, a time [Name removed] would have been making her way home from school, AW and anyone being told that time were naturally going to apply it as being irrelevant. And all this wonderful information repeated over and over, and over again, because of that thorough investigation into those boys, inclusive of testing gloves weeks after the murder took place! It does what it says on the tin, keeps focus away from LM.


Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2707 on: April 09, 2023, 09:08:12 PM »
What time did David High and David Turlock get home on that night?

Anyone know?
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2708 on: April 09, 2023, 09:51:49 PM »
What time did David High and David Turlock get home on that night?

Anyone know?

Did David High go into killer Luke Mitchell’s back garden in Newbattle Abbey crescent that night?

David Turlock and one other lad went home at 9pm

He said that he would often get food during school lunch breaks for Mr Mitchell, whom he said would sometimes reward him with cannabis at the end of the week.
« Last Edit: April 09, 2023, 10:03:34 PM by Nicholas »
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Kenmair

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2709 on: April 09, 2023, 10:00:57 PM »
Excellent point - My own research concluded that the local yards did not have crushers, very much taken elsewhere for that purpose.
 It does what it says on the tin, keeps focus away from LM.

Agreed, diversion and deflection, but bear in mind we're dealing with a mystic criminilogist winding up an ex-con pretend lawyer and violent bully. It might get a few likes on social media but in reality is only a mini-bus full of easily lead bingo patrons at their protests.
« Last Edit: April 09, 2023, 10:03:00 PM by KenMore »

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2710 on: April 09, 2023, 10:17:22 PM »
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2711 on: April 09, 2023, 10:19:28 PM »
Did David High go into killer Luke Mitchell’s back garden in Newbattle Abbey crescent that night?

David Turlock and one other lad went home at 9pm

He said that he would often get food during school lunch breaks for Mr Mitchell, whom he said would sometimes reward him with cannabis at the end of the week.

David Tullock went home at 9pm but what time did David High go home that night?
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http://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2023/04/09/30th-june-2003-timeline-of-14-year-old-killer-luke-mitchells-murder-part-174/

And why did Corinne Mitchell call David High a ‘notorious liar’ ?
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2712 on: April 09, 2023, 10:49:46 PM »
What time did David High and David Turlock get home on that night?

Anyone know?

Did David High live with his parents and if so what time did they say he got home that night?

UPDATED
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http://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2023/04/09/30th-june-2003-timeline-of-14-year-old-killer-luke-mitchells-murder-part-174/
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2713 on: April 09, 2023, 11:04:10 PM »
Did David High live with his parents and if so what time did they say he got home that night?

UPDATED
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http://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2023/04/09/30th-june-2003-timeline-of-14-year-old-killer-luke-mitchells-murder-part-174/

The Mitchell’s next door neighbour, Nicholas Frankland said he heard voices that night but could not be sure who’s voices they were
« Last Edit: April 09, 2023, 11:42:24 PM by Nicholas »
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline faithlilly

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2714 on: April 09, 2023, 11:22:45 PM »
Excellent point - My own research concluded that the local yards did not have crushers, very much taken elsewhere for that purpose.

But and again, why should that bike have been sought for testing at all? - There was no forensic evidence of multiple bodies present, bloody footprints going off in all directions, nor a snifter of those boys directly linked to anything to do with samples from the victim. - That world of fantasy of making any escape, those limited brain cells. That blue sweater without a doubt on top of the yellow football top did someone say? That cold summers day.

And again, excellent point around that clapped up bike! The trouble the boys had to get it going, doing so and having a couple of rides up and down the paths then home (witnessed).

The absolute lack of braincells here, honestly - NO viewpoint from over that V break, NO time, NO reason to be making their way down the inside of that wall some distance to have any viewpoint - And of course LM, those boys voices, any noise from the bike, fully alert to the fact of their presence in the vicinity.

This being seen at 5:15pm is on parallel with saying AB could not have seen LM for he had no phone in his hand! - Those estimates to times of her sighting, the guesstimates of time from the person in that car seeing a bike upon that path - OUT of that line of trees blocking the V break, blocking any view of the path or wall. It does not matter a dam if the boys admitted to their bike being stopped, it was NOT seen at the V break in that wall. Just as LM was later, up east from that break shining his torch over to the police!

Last points here - JF telling AW he was on the path just after 4pm, a time [Name removed] would have been making her way home from school, AW and anyone being told that time were naturally going to apply it as being irrelevant. And all this wonderful information repeated over and over, and over again, because of that thorough investigation into those boys, inclusive of testing gloves weeks after the murder took place! It does what it says on the tin, keeps focus away from LM.

If only John [Name removed] hadn’t admitted in court, under oath, that the bike had been propped against the break in the wall behind which Jodi’s body was found how much easier would gaslighting these poor rather naive individuals have been? That he had no idea, along with Gordon [Name removed], what he was doing while the bike was propped at the wall.

And if only LK hadn’t testified in court to hearing a motorbike behind the wall in the woods when he passed the v.

Read elsewhere:

"I said to police in my statement that I heard a motorcycle in the woods on the other side of the wall. It seemed quite far away from the wall."

https://www.thefreelibrary.com/%27Noise+was+like+someone+had+someone+else+in+a+headlock%27+CYCLIST%27S...-a0125541046?fbclid=IwAR1vRsv9xXnJkJtrnUc8o6Wz7kB0N2ngiTiJ2wYuxci4Ztq07FixmDbgLf8

If only eh!
« Last Edit: April 11, 2023, 08:14:43 AM by faithlilly »
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?