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Offline faithlilly

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #3345 on: May 10, 2023, 10:31:45 PM »
Oh no, she will get piled on. Lean will be seething.

Over 2 hours, will have to watch in bits.

That’s right, take it at your own pace and there’s always the rewind button for the bits you don’t understand.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #3346 on: May 11, 2023, 02:11:08 PM »
The case of Andrew Malkinson. The similarities between this case and Luke Mitchell’s are striking.


https://www.thejusticegap.com/andrew-malkinson-i-am-innocent-finally-i-have-the-chance-to-prove-it/

“ In 2004, Mr Malkinson was convicted by a 10-2 majority jury verdict of the July 2003 rape of a 33-year-old woman in Greater Manchester despite the absence of any forensic evidence linking him to the attack and notable discrepancies with the descriptions provided by eyewitnesses.”

And

“ According to APPEAL, Greater Manchester Police had ‘unlawfully lost or destroyed’ exhibits including items of the victim’s clothing‘ despite the force having a strict legal duty to retain them’. “

And from https://www.thejusticegap.com/forensically-aware-andy-malkinson-case/

“ If this had been an honest prosecution, then the case would have been founded on the forensic science evidence of which, in these circumstances, investigators could have expected a great deal. As it happened, there was none at all.

The Crown Prosecution Service attempted to fill this hole in its case by asserting that Malkinson was ‘forensically aware’.”

These cases seem to follow a pattern.

Are Helen Pitcher & The Criminal Cases Review Commission Using Their ‘Special Powers’ To Act Outside Of The Existing UK Criminal Justice System & Attempting To Frame An Innocent Man For Andrew Malkinson’s Rape In The Process?

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http://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2023/05/11/are-helen-pitcher-the-criminal-cases-review-commission-using-their-special-powers-to-act-outside-of-the-existing-uk-criminal-justice-system-attempting-to-frame-an-innocen/
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Kenmair

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #3347 on: May 11, 2023, 05:23:29 PM »
Amazing. Rumour has it Lean is preparing your prize now to present it to you at the protest. A tuna sandwich. Congratulations.

There will be a prize for the most inventive LM placard at the protest. Ms Lilly will check it for spellin and grammer furst.

1st prize: Signed photo of Scotland's leading criminologist, Prof David Wilson.
Runner Up: Complimentary ticket for Dalkeith Carlton Bingo.


Offline faithlilly

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #3348 on: May 11, 2023, 06:45:48 PM »
There will be a prize for the most inventive LM placard at the protest. Ms Lilly will check it for spellin and grammer furst.

1st prize: Signed photo of Scotland's leading criminologist, Prof David Wilson.
Runner Up: Complimentary ticket for Dalkeith Carlton Bingo.

Damn !!! I have one of the first prize already and I’ve never played bingo….is it fun Kenmore? You seem to be the expert.
« Last Edit: May 11, 2023, 06:49:25 PM by faithlilly »
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Kenmair

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #3349 on: May 11, 2023, 07:53:26 PM »
Damn !!! I have one of the first prize already and I’ve never played bingo….is it fun Kenmore? You seem to be the expert.

I've not tried bingo yet. Have you made your placard yet? If you can beat "Luke was mashing tatties while Shane was looking at t......" then surely at least a complimentary bingo ticket will be yours.

Offline faithlilly

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #3350 on: May 11, 2023, 08:33:04 PM »
I've not tried bingo yet. Have you made your placard yet? If you can beat "Luke was mashing tatties while Shane was looking at t......" then surely at least a complimentary bingo ticket will be yours.

I’m nowhere near Edinburgh or indeed Scotland so unfortunately the protest will have to carry on without me.

Coincidentally I’d recorded a BBC programme about the Ice Cream wars a few months ago and have just got round to watching it. I must say the size of the protests for Campbell and Steele’s release were nothing to write home about but to paraphrase the old adage it’s not the size of your protest that matters but what you achieve by it. Of course Campbell and Steele got justice.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Kenmair

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #3351 on: May 11, 2023, 09:01:14 PM »
Coincidentally I’d recorded a BBC programme about the Ice Cream wars a few months ago and have just got round to watching it. I must say the size of the protests for Campbell and Steele’s release were nothing to write home about but to paraphrase the old adage it’s not the size of your protest that matters but what you achieve by it. Of course Campbell and Steele got justice.

Steele was possibly commendable for trying to escape at every opportunity to highlight his case. TC was far from an angel and while he might not have directly been involved in the Doyle deaths he was certainly a violent criminal in the Ice Cream van trade.  And yes I lived about 10 miles away at the time and everyone knew it was McGrrr behind it - it was a gangland war, not a ritual killing.

Plus they were represented by a credible lawyer who managed to expose police failings which has yet to be proven in this case.


Offline faithlilly

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #3352 on: May 11, 2023, 09:47:35 PM »
Steele was possibly commendable for trying to escape at every opportunity to highlight his case. TC was far from an angel and while he might not have directly been involved in the Doyle deaths he was certainly a violent criminal in the Ice Cream van trade.  And yes I lived about 10 miles away at the time and everyone knew it was McGrrr behind it - it was a gangland war, not a ritual killing.

Plus they were represented by a credible lawyer who managed to expose police failings which has yet to be proven in this case.

Agreed Campbell was no angel.

As to their lawyers…don’t you consider Findlay ‘credible’? He represented Luke in his first trial. As to Campbell and Steele they had separate lawyers for their second appeal. The police failings are there for all to see in Luke’s case, no need for a lawyer to expose them.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Kenmair

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #3353 on: May 11, 2023, 10:15:03 PM »
Without doubt Findlay is one of the sharpest legal minds around, however he has not pursued the case for many years and LM has a small town local criminal solicitor (according to SF). When you mention Donald Findlay and Scott Forbes, it brings into context the lack of professionalism involved in the current campaign despite SF's claims of his pal Roddy being on the case.

Why can't LM get a decent lawyer like Anwar, Findlay, Beltrami etc if he is as innocent as he claims?

Offline faithlilly

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #3354 on: May 11, 2023, 10:42:45 PM »
Without doubt Findlay is one of the sharpest legal minds around, however he has not pursued the case for many years and LM has a small town local criminal solicitor (according to SF). When you mention Donald Findlay and Scott Forbes, it brings into context the lack of professionalism involved in the current campaign despite SF's claims of his pal Roddy being on the case.

Why can't LM get a decent lawyer like Anwar, Findlay, Beltrami etc if he is as innocent as he claims?

I’m sure money is a factor. It is much harder to get legal aid now than it was even in the recent past.

Am I to assume that you believe Luke allegedly not having a decent lawyer is hindering his fight justice?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Kenmair

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #3355 on: May 11, 2023, 10:53:36 PM »
I’m sure money is a factor. It is much harder to get legal aid now than it was even in the recent past.

Am I to assume that you believe Luke allegedly not having a decent lawyer is hindering his fight justice?

I speak with Legal Aid every week. They will provide funds if they believe there is a reasonable chance within a specific timeframe, in this case perhaps not. Assume not, LM could have every lawyer in the land and still not have a chance but at the moment he has hobbyists Lean & Forbes arguing his case. Justice has been well served in Mitchell's case and no amount of petitions or podcasts wil change that.

Offline faithlilly

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #3356 on: May 11, 2023, 11:26:21 PM »
I speak with Legal Aid every week. They will provide funds if they believe there is a reasonable chance within a specific timeframe, in this case perhaps not. Assume not, LM could have every lawyer in the land and still not have a chance but at the moment he has hobbyists Lean & Forbes arguing his case. Justice has been well served in Mitchell's case and no amount of petitions or podcasts wil change that.

I believe Luke has legal aid now but it has been a factor in the past.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Kenmair

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #3357 on: May 13, 2023, 06:22:40 PM »
A fair collection of fishwives and men at the protest - not as many people as at the "Save the Abbeyhill Day Centre" demo though. Didn't see Forbes - has he gone off to fight for Putin?

1st prize for best/worst banner: FREE LUKE - TRIAL BY MEDIA - WATCH CH5 MURDER IN A SMALL TOWN (the irony)
Runner Up: FREE LUKE MITCHELL - HE WAS JUST A BOY (So was Aaron Campbell)

Looked like some people took their kids along to Lean's vanity show and the murderer himself spoke via recording!?? Poor souls.
« Last Edit: May 13, 2023, 06:30:18 PM by KenMore »

Offline faithlilly

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #3358 on: May 13, 2023, 06:48:01 PM »
A fair collection of fishwives and men at the protest - not as many people as at the "Save the Abbeyhill Day Centre" demo though. Didn't see Forbes - has he gone off to fight for Putin?

1st prize for best/worst banner: FREE LUKE - TRIAL BY MEDIA - WATCH CH5 MURDER IN A SMALL TOWN (the irony)
Runner Up: FREE LUKE MITCHELL - HE WAS JUST A BOY (So was Aaron Campbell)

Looked like some people took their kids along to Lean's vanity show and the murderer himself spoke via recording!?? Poor souls.

Much better turnout than last time.

You sound a bit scunnered Kenmore.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #3359 on: May 13, 2023, 07:03:22 PM »
A fair collection of fishwives and men at the protest - not as many people as at the "Save the Abbeyhill Day Centre" demo though. Didn't see Forbes - has he gone off to fight for Putin?

1st prize for best/worst banner: FREE LUKE - TRIAL BY MEDIA - WATCH CH5 MURDER IN A SMALL TOWN (the irony)
Runner Up: FREE LUKE MITCHELL - HE WAS JUST A BOY (So was Aaron Campbell)

Looked like some people took their kids along to Lean's vanity show and the murderer himself spoke via recording!?? Poor souls.
According to the FB events page the combined total of “going” and “interested” was about 80 people.  Did numbers far exceed this total? 
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".