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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #3855 on: August 30, 2023, 08:21:06 PM »
As did the girl he was cheating on Jodi with, Kimberley Thomson:



And he absolutely was 2 timing the pair of them despite what Sandra says. This is likely what they were arguing about on the day of the murder, because Luke had plans to spend time with Kimberley Thomson 60 miles away now that school was finished. Kimberley and Luke were texting "love you" to each other just days before the murder.

As did his former high school teacher, who had reason to remember it because he joked that Luke resembled a "hooded monk" walking around school with it on. This teacher retired that summer so could only have seen Luke wearing it before the murder.

As did Luke's friends.

All these independent people, deciding to lie for no apparent reason.  *%87

My mistake this was Kimberley Thomson
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #3856 on: August 30, 2023, 08:40:36 PM »
“Another fling ended on a more threatening note, with another West Lothian girl, Kimberley Tait, claiming Mitchell once pulled a knife on her after she refused to sleep with him. Mitchell claimed the knife incident was only a joke.

So who exactly was/is Kimberley Tait?
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #3857 on: August 30, 2023, 08:54:35 PM »
He said: ‘The cops asked me about my relationship with Jodi’s friend Laura.

“They asked me about Laura and if I wanted it to be just the two of us and asked if that was why I killed Jodi”

When he returned, he told his mother he was going to see his friend Laura and, since it was on my way, I offered to give Mitchell a lift
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by Grace McLean

Was sadistic killer Luke Mitchell asked about Laura Wightman during his 14th August 2003 police interview?

If so, what did he tell them about his relationship with Laura W?
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #3858 on: August 30, 2023, 09:00:36 PM »
The verdict: Luke was a dark and dangerous character.. he was irresistible to teenage girls; BUT TEEN TURNED EVIL WHEN TOLD 'NO' By Maggie Barry

Within days of Jodi's murder he had replaced her with another girl.

Within weeks of Jodi's death, Mitchell was having sex with one of her best friends.

When he was banned from Jodi's funeral, Mitchell took his new girlfriend to her graveside knowing it would attract attention.


https://www.thefreelibrary.com/Jodi+Jones%3A+The+verdict%3A+Luke+was+a+dark+and+dangerous+character..+he...-a0127488179

Was it Laura Wightman who confirmed to police her and killer Luke Mitchell were “having sex” or LM?
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #3859 on: August 30, 2023, 09:03:56 PM »
By Maggie Barry

Within days of Jodi's murder he had replaced her with another girl.

And as Jodi learned to her cost, Mitchell did not like to be told "no".

Police believe it was Jodi's angry reaction at learning about his other girlfriend which led to her death.


https://www.thefreelibrary.com/Jodi+Jones%3A+The+verdict%3A+Luke+was+a+dark+and+dangerous+character..+he...-a0127488179

By Grace McLean

He said: ‘The cops asked me about my relationship with Jodi’s friend Laura.

“They asked me about Laura and if I wanted it to be just the two of us and asked if that was why I killed Jodi”

When he returned, he told his mother he was going to see his friend Laura and, since it was on my way, I offered to give Mitchell a lift
.

When exactly was killer Luke Mitchell questioned about Kimberly Thomson?
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #3860 on: August 30, 2023, 09:14:41 PM »
Was it Laura Wightman who confirmed to police her and killer Luke Mitchell were “having sex” or LM?

What exactly did the police establish in relation to how often killer Luke Mitchell was in contact with Laura Wightman?.

What did his phone records say?
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #3861 on: August 30, 2023, 09:25:55 PM »
By Maggie Barry

KILLER Luke Mitchell was a violent thug - but girls flocked to be his lover.

The teenager's reputation as a moody rebel captured the hearts of girls in Dalkeith.

But behind his mask, Mitchell was a woman-h ater who tried to force his lovers to have sex at the point of a knife.

https://www.thefreelibrary.com/Jodi+Jones%3A+The+verdict%3A+Luke+was+a+dark+and+dangerous+character..+he...-a0127488179

What did Laura Wightman say about this?
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Offline Parky41

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #3862 on: August 30, 2023, 09:29:02 PM »
Quote from: Chris_Halkides on Today at 02:34:44 AM
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The police theory asks one to believe that one person would borrow someone else's t-shirt when that person lived nearly a mile away.
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No it doesn’t

Jodi Jones sometimes stayed over at her grandmother Alice Walker’s house

Jodi had in fact stayed over at her grans on Saturday 28th/Sunday 29th June 2003

Exactly, not a theory at all. Well proven that the sisters stayed together frequently, week in and out. What "a mile apart" has to do with anything I have no idea.  We also know that SK stayed over at the grans house with his girlfriend. LM also frequenting there and making it clear in the investigation that his girlfriend wore her sisters clothing, on the day of the murder to be precise!

But and again, that abundance of lies put out, how do people even begin to sift through fact from fiction with proven liars. The elder sister as pointed out before, did not move away from home at 14yrs old, she moved from the grans house at this age to the new family home. Returning to her former home when she was all but 16 if not 16. Zero loss of contact, where it has been shown that the mother saw the gran, daughter, almost daily. All clarified and backed up in that thorough investigation into others, into SK and so forth.

And again, the lie that the t-shirt was never identified as belonging to the elder sister, shown to the witness at court to do just that - Limited case papers, not every statement, no access to the investigation, no court attendance, no full court transcripts - Very much why those lies are needed one would assume, that front and pretence at all times until exposed, on repeat.

Also as stated before, the strength of the evidence and not its weakness, that had a top QC failed to produce that doubt. The presence of another connected male, his DNA, where the enablers would have you believe by way of lying that the police handed the story on a plate to him - That continuous yarn that is spun, forever snaring themselves in that web of deceit.

Two other connected males in the vicinity - All fully investigated and eliminated. The enablers stating they were eliminated immediately, when they have absolutely no way of knowing this, more fallacy on a whim.

Still stating that LM cannot release his statement from the morning of July 1st, absolutely false. He chooses not to do so - Fact.

Whilst putting together that submission to the SCCRC, the knowledge held around that claimed identity of the mystery male, knowing for a fact it is a load of nonsense, you are correct Nicholas, they were still trying to place SK as possibly being that male whilst holding that information. Still spinning out that he was only alibied by his girlfriend, yet another blatant lie. Pulled up for the lie then claiming the statement of alibi had been "buried" - Crock of BS yet again.


Offline Parky41

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #3863 on: August 30, 2023, 09:29:53 PM »
What did Laura Wightman say about this?

It has been said that LW stopped speaking with LM and his mother - Which speaks volumes.

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #3864 on: August 30, 2023, 09:42:55 PM »
It has been said that LW stopped speaking with LM and his mother - Which speaks volumes.

It does look like this was the case

I’d like to hear from Laura Wightman

I’d also like to know if Laura Wightman ever spoke to that guardian writer Lorna Martin who wrote the following;

Many of Mitchell's friends maintain his innocence. Laura Wightman, who was Jodi's best friend and is close to Mitchell, said she thought the wrong person had been convicted.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2005/jan/23/ukcrime.lornamartin

Why did Lorna Martin refer to Laura Wightman, who was said to be suffering from a “severe depressive disorder”, as opposed to Gemma Chapman?

And why was Gemma Chapman referred to as kiler Luke Mitchell’s “secret girlfriend’ by the Scotsman?

https://www.scotsman.com/news/girlfriend-of-jodis-killer-speaks-of-her-love-for-him-2512833

Gemma Chapman was photographed going in and out of court with Corinne Mitchell during the trial, and it was made known that Gemma was LM’s girlfriend during his trial, so she could hardly have been a “secret girlfriend”.

It was also ultimately dawn to Gemma Chapman that the first jury trial had to be halted because Gemma recognised a jury member
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #3865 on: August 30, 2023, 09:57:26 PM »
Did “best friend” Laura Wightman attend Jodi Jones funeral?
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #3866 on: August 30, 2023, 10:02:07 PM »
But and again, that abundance of lies put out, how do people even begin to sift through fact from fiction with proven liars. The elder sister as pointed out before, did not move away from home at 14yrs old, she moved from the grans house at this age to the new family home. Returning to her former home when she was all but 16 if not 16. Zero loss of contact, where it has been shown that the mother saw the gran, daughter, almost daily. All clarified and backed up in that thorough investigation into others, into SK and so forth.

We are still waiting for scammer Sandra Lean to clarify the living arrangements of her eldest daughter, who was said to be living in the custody of her father NOT with her mother

The two (mother and eldest daughter) did not speak for years
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #3867 on: August 30, 2023, 10:04:55 PM »
Still stating that LM cannot release his statement from the morning of July 1st, absolutely false. He chooses not to do so - Fact.

Same applies to liar Corinne Mitchell!
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #3868 on: August 30, 2023, 10:26:03 PM »
Was it Laura Wightman who confirmed to police her and killer Luke Mitchell were “having sex” or LM?

Sadistic killer Luke Mitchell told detective constable George Thomson that “he had had a previous sexual relationship with a girl called Kimberley”

Killer Luke Mitchell & His Abusive Innocence Fraud Enablers Have Hidden The Murderers Evidence From Their Cult Followers, Including His 22 Page Written Police Statement Dated 1st July 2003 & The Content Of His 4th July & 14th August 2003 & 14th April 2004 Recorded Police Interviews (Part 65)
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http://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2022/09/17/warped-minded-abuser-gaslighter-con-artist-hypocrite-scott-forbes-his-blatant-lies-part-65/

What did killer Luke Mitchell say about Laura Wightman?
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Offline Mr Apples

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #3869 on: August 30, 2023, 10:54:22 PM »
It is an axiom of DNA profiling that the existence of a profile does not provide information on how or when it was transferred.  DNA that is partially degraded gives what is called a ski slope appearance; the peaks in the electropherogram become smaller as one moves left to right.  A sample that is degraded sufficiently cannot be a complete profile for that reason; the peaks on the right (representing the longest pieces of DNA) will have disappeared.

There was an insightful study of DNA transfer using a video camera, circa 2013 (first author was Goray IIRC).  Short of that, I cannot imagine how one would prove a particular hypothesis of DNA transfer.  The police theory asks one to believe that one person would borrow someone else's t-shirt when that person lived nearly a mile away.  That is unexpected.

It's common knowledge that a full complete genetic profile can be obtained from washed semen stains -- sometimes from materials that have been washed up to 4 or 5 times -- even from minute semen deposits. There is no doubt this was raised in court and clearly explained and clarified. It's obvious the semen stain in this case hadn't degraded to the extent that a full profile could not be obtained. The said profile had migrated to other areas of Jodi's clothing and body by rainwater diffusion -- this is common sense and was clarified in court. Jodi's naked body and clothing were left lying uncovered for a full 8 hours in a woodland strip where it had rained quite heavily during the early hours. Her clothes were all bundled together in one big heap by police, rather than bagged separately. Janine even said -- as LM himself had told police --  that Jodi borrowed her clothes sometimes. And Jodi and Janine were in regular contact with each other, where Janine visted Jodi at their mother's house and Jodi visited Janine at their gran's house, even staying there sometimes. The t-shirt from where the full profile, from semen, was obtained had been freshly washed/laundered (it smelled strongly of washing detergent). SK was alibied by his father and Janine, and the latter still alibies him in the present day even though they split up many years ago. Hope that makes sense.