"Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean

[faithlilly]

It's a strong possibility that LM's shin abrasions were linked to the murder. Jodi may not have been able to use her hands or arms due to being overpowered by LM (a couple of his ex-girlfriends attested to how physically strong he was), but her legs and feet could certainly have made forceful contact with his shins during the struggle in that woodland strip. It would be interesting to read Dr Kranti's full reports on LM's & Jodi's physical condition on 01.07.03. I presume the police would've sought a second opinion outwith Dr Kranti's findings, from another forensic medical examiner? Would she have examined Jodi's body on the morning of 01.07.03 in addition to Luke's?

Why would the police have sought a second opinion? Is that usual in a police investigation?

And no, it’s not a strong possibility that the abrasions on the shins were sustained at the time of the murder or the prosecution would have used that evidence against Luke. Did they?

MA you are not suppose to come to a conclusion and desperately fit the ‘evidence’ around it. You don’t present presumptions and assumptions as evidence. Hard facts are all that matter. The fact that you present little of them before coming to a conclusion suggests that you have already made up your mind and nothing, no matter how persuasive, will ever change that.

[Mr Apples]

Didn’t Anthony Busuttil examine Jodi Jones body?

Yes, I believe he did. Is it possible that Dr Kranti also examined Jodi's body (in addition to LM's)?

[Nicholas]

Why would the police have sought a second opinion? Is that usual in a police investigation?

And no, it’s not a strong possibility that the abrasions on the shins were sustained at the time of the murder or the prosecution would have used that evidence against Luke. Did they?

What questions did Alan Turnbull ask dr Kranti Hiremath during the trial?

[Nicholas]

MA you are not suppose to come to a conclusion and desperately fit the ‘evidence’ around it. You don’t present presumptions and assumptions as evidence. Hard facts are all that matter. The fact that you present little of them before coming to a conclusion suggests that you have already made up your mind and nothing, no matter how persuasive, will ever change that.

dr Kranti Hiremath was a gynaecologist not a skin specialist 

[faithlilly]

What questions did Alan Turnbull ask dr Kranti Hiremath during the trial?

“ Dr Kranti Hiremath, 49, said it was part of her duties as a forensic medical examiner to attend police stations and examine the victims of crime and suspects.

She said she had been called to Dalkeith police station in the early hours of 1 July, 2003, and had examined Mitchell.


He co-operated fully. She checked for any injuries, and saw an abrasion on each of Mitchell’s shins. The more recent was between 24 and 48 hours old. Mr Findlay asked: "There were no injuries that had the appearance of being received in the previous 12 hours?"

Dr Hiremath said: "No."

[Nicholas]

Is it possible that Dr Kranti also examined Jodi's body (in addition to LM's)?

Scammer Sandra Lean stated in her second innocence fraud book IB, page 250

“..the doctor attended to pronounce death, all before 3am

Wouldn’t dr Kranti Hiremath have gone to the killer’s crime scene “to pronounce death” first?

What time was dr Kranti first called by the police?

[faithlilly]

dr Kranti Hiremath was a gynaecologist not a skin specialist

She was a forensic medical examiner. Dr Busuttil is a pathologist.

[Mr Apples]

Why would the police have sought a second opinion? Is that usual in a police investigation?

And no, it’s not a strong possibility that the abrasions on the shins were sustained at the time of the murder or the prosecution would have used that evidence against Luke. Did they?

MA you are not suppose to come to a conclusion and desperately fit the ‘evidence’ around it. You don’t present presumptions and assumptions as evidence. Hard facts are all that matter. The fact that you present little of them before coming to a conclusion suggests that you have already made up your mind and nothing, no matter how persuasive, will ever change that.

Fair point, FL. My confirmation bias. It's very difficult not to speculate on such a complex circumstantial case, though. There are no clear facts in this case, other than a young teenager was murdered and she was due to meet her boyfriend the evening she was murdered. Everything elde is purely circumstantial. Even the theories & inferences put forward by experts in their respective fields were, fundamentally, 'professional guesses'.

[Nicholas]

You don’t present presumptions and assumptions as evidence. Hard facts are all that matter.

dr Kranti Hiremath’s opinion regarding killer Luke Mitchell shin abrasions wasn’t a “hard fact”

[faithlilly]

Fair point, FL. My confirmation bias. It's very difficult not to speculate on such a complex circumstantial case, though. There are no clear facts in this case, other than a young teenager was murdered and she was due to meet her boyfriend the evening she was murdered. Everything elde is purely circumstantial. Even the theories & inferences put forward by experts in their respective fields were, fundamentally, 'professional guesses'.

It is very hard not to speculate MA but speculation doesn’t serve truth.

Of course what doesn’t help are others spicing the pot with unsourced and dishonest claims. Just because something is stated in a vlog, blog or post does not make it true and we need to be very careful that we are not being used to construct a false narrative by giving these claims weight and repeating them on forums like this as if they are facts. There are those, on both sides, who push an agenda. Don’t take anything at face value, do your own research.

[Nicholas]

Does anyone recall scammer Sandra lean speaking to that Silkman from Foulplay?

[Nicholas]

Convicting A Murderer: Examines the Case But Not the Fraud that Sold It
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https://www.youtube.com/live/1DaFdBF4abk?si=Xhk4CwdAE-hkt01L

[Nicholas]

Does anyone recall scammer Sandra lean speaking to that Silkman from Foulplay?

Scammer Sandra Lean spoke to that Dr Silkman from foulplay in 2021

“Convicting a murderer” have included some clips of “Dr Silkman” & others in their TV show

[Nicholas]

Don’t take anything at face value, do your own research.

What did your research discover about the police tip off from Flip staff about sadistic killer and sexual deviant Luke Mitchell buying a replacement parka jacket 8 days after he had committed his murder?

[Nicholas]

. Don’t take anything at face value, do your own research.

What did your research find out about the questions the police asked sadistic killer and sexual deviant Luke Mitchell about the others girls he had targeted and attacked with knives in the lead up to his murder?
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http://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2023/09/05/sexual-deviant-psychopathic-scottish-teen-luke-mitchell-the-numerous-other-targeted-girls-knife-attacks-leading-up-to-his-murder-including-laura-wightman-kara-the-3-kimberley/