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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4350 on: November 02, 2023, 10:11:53 PM »
Justice for Luke Mitchell and Jodi Jones
@SharonIndy_[Name removed]LM
Steve's hand should have been bitten off when I got him to offer his services for free a year & a half ago.
How much longer will that decision not to cost Luke?
Steve has real experience of getting an innocent person out of prison.
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Steve Moore CBS 2 interview about Amanda Knox
7:49 PM · Nov 2, 2023

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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4351 on: November 02, 2023, 10:25:35 PM »
Scott C Forbes
@AuldM
@NewbattleTweets
 I was a student 2002-3💚 but I'm,shocked the college doesn't have my records. I was really saddened to hear the college had lost all records pertaining to their/staff involvement in the murder of Jodie Jones(14)
7:00 PM · Nov 1, 2023

Scott C Forbes
@AuldM
They claim to have no records of myself/mark k and police taking statements involving their students.
2:50 PM · Nov 2, 2023


 *&^^&
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4352 on: November 02, 2023, 11:22:17 PM »
Scott C Forbes
@AuldM
@NewbattleTweets
 I was a student 2002-3💚 but I'm,shocked the college doesn't have my records. I was really saddened to hear the college had lost all records pertaining to their/staff involvement in the murder of Jodie Jones(14)
7:00 PM · Nov 1, 2023

Scott C Forbes
@AuldM
They claim to have no records of myself/mark k and police taking statements involving their students.
2:50 PM · Nov 2, 2023


 *&^^&

You didn’t give any statements in 2002/03 Scott Forbes - you waited years before you concocted your story about Mark Kane

 @)(++(*
And the college won’t have police witness statements

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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4353 on: November 03, 2023, 12:55:23 PM »
Who was/is Inka Oldmoot Sandra Lean?

The Following Statements Have Been Reproduced For Evidential, Educational & Research Purposes Only

Sandra Lean - 31st July 2022
We don't normally post stuff from MSM, or full names, but this one is different and I'll take full, personal responsibility for any backlash.
Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you Jane Hamilton, a "journalist" who, for years, has demonised a woman who has never been convicted of any crime, a woman whose home was ransacked and completely trashed not once, but three times, whose precious memories were stolen from her and her even more precious son taken away from her. That woman is Corinne Mitchell. The hypocrisy is breath-taking.
When did Jane Hamilton get to decide who is a "deserving" or an "undeserving", vulnerable woman??

Inka Oldmoot
What should be questioned is JH’s objectivity given what is known about her long relationship with Jodi’s immediate family.
The reportage was never based on facts, but was designed to cover this as an epic drama between the “righteous victims” of Jodi’s family and what was described as “Devil’s spawn” Luke Mitchell and his mother CM.
These are simple, polarising narratives that her readers can understand and immediately relate to. Those same readers would be intellectually challenged in following the technicalities of the investigation, trial and conviction. JH knows this so aims low for the thickos.
It’s not a stretch to say JH made it her business to incite hatred, to legitimise and weaponise the climate of suspicion and aggression running through the local community and to manipulate it to her own advantage.
There were articles stating “JUJ wouldn’t want anyone to be hurt…” as though it was JUJ herself who was judge and jury in this bizarre community court.
This completely derailed the authority of the Justice system and went straight to village justice.
Meanwhile no one questioned the irregularities in the statements of Jodi’s family or their own complicity in the neglect of 14 year old Jodi. There are serious questions regarding the assault on Jodi by a family member prior to her death, her own expressed difficulties in coping with her home environment, and other familial factors that put her at risk.
Crucially I think CM had money- not a lot- but she was independent and successful in running her own business and supporting her family on her own. She lived in the nicer part with a better home.
I can’t rule out a certain amount of jealousy based on the economics of the area, and this would make her an easy target in a particularly brutal environment.
Luke had certain advantages such as his pony and bikes. He had signs of wealth.
I wonder if this isn’t partly what incited the local hatred based on envy.

JH was able to channel the most feral aspects of that community, perhaps knowing them well herself.

Sandra Lean
Inka Oldmoot Again, if you don't mind, I'll take your post point by point!
"What should be questioned is JH’s objectivity given what is known about her long relationship with Jodi’s immediate family.
The reportage was never based on facts, but was designed to cover this as an epic drama between the “righteous victims” of Jodi’s family and what was described as “Devil’s spawn” Luke Mitchell and his mother CM.
These are simple, polarising narratives that her readers can understand and immediately relate to. Those same readers would be intellectually challenged in following the technicalities of the investigation, trial and conviction. JH knows this so aims low for the thickos."
Although I agree, broadly, that JH's objectivity (and her responsibility, as a journalist to present a balance of fact and evidence to the reading/watching public is implicit), I object to your final comment that she "aims low for the thickos" - we have some highly intelligent people in this group who are furious at being duped by what appeared, at the time, to be a blanket media opinion, supported by "facts" - JH, alone, cannot be held responsible for that and the readers/viewers who were duped by it cannot, in any reality, be labelled "thickos". We need to understand what was available to people at the time and why many believed it. This was 2003 - before the current, instantly available online information we have today.
"It’s not a stretch to say JH made it her business to incite hatred, to legitimise and weaponise the climate of suspicion and aggression running through the local community and to manipulate it to her own advantage.
There were articles stating “JUJ wouldn’t want anyone to be hurt…” as though it was JUJ herself who was judge and jury in this bizarre community court.
This completely derailed the authority of the Justice system and went straight to village justice."
Were there articles stating JuJ "wouldn't want anyone to be hurt"? If so, where are they and in what context? If those articles are able to be reproduced here, is there any evidence that JH manipulated or capitalised on them? Again, we need to see the evidence, otherwise, we fall into the same murky ground that all of this proliferated from, in the first place. Is there a difference between "the authority of the justice system" and "village justice," given that the entire jury system is actually predicated on "village justice" - i.e. jurors are drawn from a pool of peers of the accused?
"Meanwhile no one questioned the irregularities in the statements of Jodi’s family or their own complicity in the neglect of 14 year old Jodi. There are serious questions regarding the assault on Jodi by a family member prior to her death, her own expressed difficulties in coping with her home environment, and other familial factors that put her at risk".
Now, I have to object quite forcefully. Where is there evidence of, specifically, neglect of Jodi? We know that there was an assault on a female member of Jodi's family, prior to the murder - to my knowledge, there is no evidence in the public domain that that member of the family was Jodi.
It's also not true to say that "no-one questioned the irregularities in the statements of Jodi's family" - as I've already stated, many times, DF did everything he could to pull this out at trial.
"Crucially I think CM had money- not a lot- but she was independent and successful in running her own business and supporting her family on her own. She lived in the nicer part with a better home.
I can’t rule out a certain amount of jealousy based on the economics of the area, and this would make her an easy target in a particularly brutal environment.
Luke had certain advantages such as his pony and bikes. He had signs of wealth.
I wonder if this isn’t partly what incited the local hatred based on envy."
This section of your comment demonstrates a complete lack of understanding about the local community as it was lived by the people there. Again, it contributes nothing to JH's involvement.
We are talking about a 3 - 5 mile proximity of interlinked communities. The local high schools had a mix of pupils from different social and economic circumstances who supported each other in ways that don't meet the "expected" interactions. Couple of examples - 5 minutes walk from my home on a council estate were stables owned by the father of a girl I went to high school with - we were all invited to come and ride (or learn to ride). When Jodi was murdered, my children were part of a similar, but slightly different community, about 5 miles south. Again, the invitation to become part of each others' community was open and freely accepted. A girl from what would now be considered a "lower group" showed exceptional talent as an athlete, so she was incorporated into the athletics group, no questions asked about where her kit, etc, would come from - it was taken as given.
"JH was able to channel the most feral aspects of that community, perhaps knowing them well herself."
Please demonstrate "the most feral aspects of that community" before asking us to accept someone else's apparent manipulation of them? My 50 year experience of this community has been anything but "feral"

Inka Oldmoot
Sandra Lean I’m not sure your reply to the points is showing up Sandra!

Inka Oldmoot
Thank you. The areas you mentioned are duly noted.

Inka Oldmoot
Regarding “thickos” yes perhaps that is a little strong. Some of the more discerning readers have indeed revised their opinions based on new evidence but there are still some stalwarts who have based their judgement of LMs guilt on those early media articles of JH and others and cannot be persuaded even when presented with the alternative facts. Failure to engage in an objective discussion and not being open to revising a viewpoint when presented with facts to the alternative for me suggests an element of ignorance.
Regarding an “assault on Jodi” I’m just basing this on my interpretation of what has appeared recently in the public domain. So it would be my reading that the female victim of this assault was Jodi, although I agree this has not been confirmed.
The articles stating JUJ would not want anyone to be harmed are early news  reports  although I have to admit I can’t confirm they were written by JH. The particular article I’m thinking of was in  a local paper and it was published online. Although I will have to go back and dig out the link.
Yes, I agree it’s possible to see the Judicial system as an aspect of village justice although in the courtroom the Judge presides so there is at least supposedly some sense of order as far as the system goes. Justice is not left to the proclivities of individuals, or at least should not be.
I don’t personally have the experience of living in that community, true, although I have based some of my assumptions on what CM herself recounted in interviews- that if she went into an area with mostly tabloid readers as the demographic she might expect to experience some harassment while if she ventured into an area of broadsheet/ quality readers she found people were more objective and sympathetic.
Those charged with burning her caravans were. I believe, from the tabloid demographic. When I suggest a “feral” mindset, this is what I’m referring to.
By no means am I suggesting that exists throughout the community.

Sharon ODonnell
Inka Oldmoot it wasnt the community that hated Luke ! The media brain washed this community into believing Luke from day dot was in-fact the murderer threw JH  she new what she was doing rite from the get go ! Of course we believed it she hid truths only printed lies ! Vile woman

Michelle Celestial Easterly Moore
Inka Oldmoot reporters sometimes get a "scoop" from the Prosecution or LE and that's their in for getting a name.  They might simply become biased.  Or they are bad people. I've known a few journos who knew truth and reported BS for selfish reasons

Inka Oldmoot
Michelle Celestial-Easterly Moore I think there’s also the issue of JH’s editor. Ultimately reporters are answerable to their boss and we have to ask why it was that she was enabled in writing these articles. No consideration given to child protection and the issue of divulging details of a minor, because someone gave her free rein to write whatever she chose to write.
Who let that happen?.
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4354 on: November 03, 2023, 02:04:29 PM »
Justice for Luke Mitchell and Jodi Jones
@SharonIndy_[Name removed]LM
Steve's hand should have been bitten off when I got him to offer his services for free a year & a half ago.
How much longer will that decision not to cost Luke?
Steve has real experience of getting an innocent person out of prison.
youtube.com
Steve Moore CBS 2 interview about Amanda Knox
7:49 PM · Nov 2, 2023

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The channel 5 TV show was based on scammer Sandra Lean’s book

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Didn't know this - wow! Steve Moore offered his services for free 🤔
7:53 PM · Nov 2, 2023

Justice for Luke Mitchell and Jodi Jones
@SharonIndy_[Name removed]LM
I do, it was not 'directly rejected' but indirectly as there was a lack of the agreed information getting to him that he required so he could help. He needs to go on more than a book he needs to have the facts first hand.
8:01 PM · Nov 2, 2023
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4355 on: November 03, 2023, 02:43:53 PM »
Matthew Elliott
@mattelliottphot
I wonder how many actually understand how a narrative is ‘adopted’ by the prosecution and fed to the jury…
Did this happen in Luke Mitchell’s case?
ABSOLUTELY!
@AuldM
@WeKnowTheyKnow1
@SharonIndy_[Name removed]LM
@SandraLean5
@Naomi_TV
@Jerome_Elaut
 #justiceforlukemitchell
9:44 am · 14 Dec 2022

Auld Mick
@AuldM
Replying to
@mattelliottphot
@WeKnowTheyKnow1
  and 4 others
The police and prosecutor worked hand in hand. If any witnesses gave evidence contrary to police narrative, they were ignored, smeared or bullied. Evidence that questioned the narrative was hidden or destroyed
9:47 am · 14 Dec 2022



Matthew Elliott is a ‘super-fan’ of psychopathic and sadistic child killers

Matthew Elliott
@mattelliottphot
Happy Birthday
@damienechols
 I hope it doesn’t come and leave on silent feet.
4:45 pm · 11 Dec 2022


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Michelle Moore
@michellesings
Im very excited Matt is doing this. Such a great guy and such a great CAUSE.  #FreeLukeMitchell.
4:15 PM · Aug 3, 2023


Two months later it was announced Matt Elliott had cancelled his video

Justice for Luke Mitchell and Jodi Jones
@SharonIndy_[Name removed]LM
Matt explain's why he was left with no choice on his group.  I feel for him in this situation. 
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Matt Elliott’s Facebook group “Just Fourteen.…” is a private group with admins Sharon Indy Sunshine, Sheryl Ramsey, Donna Gee, Angie Timothy, Barbara Bacon, Angie Georgina Timothy & Matt Elliott

Matt Elliott and Donna provided fraudster Bob Ruff with their “research”

Matthew Elliott
@mattelliottphot
@StinsonHunter
 message ref Luke Mitchell
11:29 AM · Sep 9, 2023

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More on psychopath Stinson Hunter here https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2014/oct/02/the-paedophile-hunter-review-dark-and-disturbing
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4356 on: November 03, 2023, 03:12:23 PM »
It’s a pointless exercise” - “the transcripts themselves would not take us anywhere

Every day spent faffing around wasting time, is another day he’s stuck in there” ~ scammer Sandra Lean 29th October 2023 (YouTube)

The second thing I have a real issue with”

I have a huge issue with individuals who will use vulnerable people, exploit them to do their own dirty work, whilst hiding behind either anonymous or fake profiles and doing so to try to prove a point rather than take the case forward - that to me is despicable, absolutely despicable  ”
~ narcissist Sandra Lean 29th Oct 2023 (YouTube)

How many “anonymous or fake profiles” have you and do you knowingly communicate with on Facebook Sandra Lean?
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4357 on: November 03, 2023, 03:56:29 PM »
How many “anonymous or fake profiles” have you and do you knowingly communicate with on Facebook Sandra Lean?

As well as the known numerous anon Facebook accounts, does un-convicted baby killer Billy Middleton post “hiding behind either anonymous or fake profiles” Sandra Lean - as he renowned for doing?

Well, knock me down with a feather!!...Sandra Lean gets it wrong again!!

After many long years promoting the 'Luke Mitchell is innocent' agenda, Dr Sandra Lean and Billy Middleton have called it a day and exited from the case.  Has this something to do with what I predicted quite some time ago and that it that the SCCRC have refused to refer the case to Edinburgh's Court of Appeal.

Sandra Leans co admin at Wrongly Accused Person Organsation, Billy Middleton, explains in his latest rendering...

The road to where things now are for Luke and his case has been a long, difficult and often stressful one for all those who have genuinely believed in and supported him. I say genuinely because, as we know from experience, not everyone who becomes involved in cases such as this have genuine motives. Sandra became involved at a much earlier stage than most, but I don't think anyone with any credibility would suggest she has been anything other than supportive, or that she hasn't tried hard for almost 11 years, at great personal hardship, and often in difficult circumstances, to both help and to expose facts of the case which otherwise would probably still not be known.

Unfortunately, shortly before the SCCRC refusal, at a time when she knew it's decision was imminent, Sandra came to a point whereby she was no longer prepared to carry on and wrote to Luke explaining why. She remains supportive to this day. Anyone involved in the horror of fighting a wrongful conviction will understand the ever present difficulties of the situation.

Luke was merely a child himself when he was incarcerated, now, although he's not been allowed to develop as he should have been, he's a man. What he does now, and the choices he now makes are his alone to make and his responsibility. I wish him well, hope he makes wise choices and is someday successful. For me every day longer will be yet another too long for both him and Jodi to finally get the justice they deserve. However, in the absence of the connection that once existed, and the mandate which went along with it to validate what has been exposed both here on the forum and on his caseblog, WAP is in a difficult position. It is the most sensitive of cases, and the extent and nature of what has been highlighted could only be done in large part due to the fact it has been done on the basis of having access to the supporting documents. Clearly that is no longer the case, and while I had hoped to be able to archive it due to a SCCRC referral, I don't really see how it can remain available.

So while I wish Luke well and hope for a positive outcome, anything which depends on access to his paperwork will have to be taken offline in a week's time roughly. It does not in any way reflect a change in opinion on his case, and if anyone wants to start a topic which isn't notably said to be backed up by case papers they are perfectly free to do so in the general forum area as with any other deserved case providing discussion remains polite, respectful to all concern and dignified.l

Considerable thought has been given to this decision, and it has not been arrived at lightly, but sadly I can't see how, given the nature of the case and all that goes along with it how it can remain now.



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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4358 on: November 03, 2023, 04:07:09 PM »
Sandra Leans co admin at Wrongly Accused Person Organsation, Billy Middleton, explains in his latest rendering...

The road to where things now are for Luke and his case has been a long, difficult and often stressful one for all those who have genuinely believed in and supported him. I say genuinely because, as we know from experience, not everyone who becomes involved in cases such as this have genuine motives. Sandra became involved at a much earlier stage than most, but I don't think anyone with any credibility would suggest she has been anything other than supportive, or that she hasn't tried hard for almost 11 years, at great personal hardship, and often in difficult circumstances, to both help and to expose facts of the case which otherwise would probably still not be known.

Unfortunately, shortly before the SCCRC refusal, at a time when she knew it's decision was imminent, Sandra came to a point whereby she was no longer prepared to carry on and wrote to Luke explaining why. She remains supportive to this day. Anyone involved in the horror of fighting a wrongful conviction will understand the ever present difficulties of the situation.

Luke was merely a child himself when he was incarcerated, now, although he's not been allowed to develop as he should have been, he's a man. What he does now, and the choices he now makes are his alone to make and his responsibility. I wish him well, hope he makes wise choices and is someday successful. For me every day longer will be yet another too long for both him and Jodi to finally get the justice they deserve. However, in the absence of the connection that once existed, and the mandate which went along with it to validate what has been exposed both here on the forum and on his caseblog, WAP is in a difficult position. It is the most sensitive of cases, and the extent and nature of what has been highlighted could only be done in large part due to the fact it has been done on the basis of having access to the supporting documents. Clearly that is no longer the case, and while I had hoped to be able to archive it due to a SCCRC referral, I don't really see how it can remain available.

So while I wish Luke well and hope for a positive outcome, anything which depends on access to his paperwork will have to be taken offline in a week's time roughly. It does not in any way reflect a change in opinion on his case, and if anyone wants to start a topic which isn't notably said to be backed up by case papers they are perfectly free to do so in the general forum area as with any other deserved case providing discussion remains polite, respectful to all concern and dignified.l

Considerable thought has been given to this decision, and it has not been arrived at lightly, but sadly I can't see how, given the nature of the case and all that goes along with it how it can remain now.


www.forum.wronglyaccusedperson.org.uk/series-on-cases-from-sandra-leans-book-no-smoke/luke-mitchell-wrongly-convicted-of-murder-general/150/

Scammer Sandra Lean claimed Corinne Mitchell put a note through her door taking away power of attorney around the time of the above (on the date of one of her adult daughters birthdays she claimed)

Un-convicted baby killer Billy Middleton stated, “Sandra came to a point whereby she was no longer prepared to carry on and wrote to Luke explaining why

Was this yet another bare faced lie?

Did killer Luke Mitchell and/or his mother Corinne Mitchell threaten WAP/Sandra Lean with legal action?

How did Sandra Lean self-publish her 2nd innocence fraud book in October 2018 without said power of attorney ?

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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4359 on: November 03, 2023, 04:24:50 PM »
Scammer Sandra Lean claimed Corinne Mitchell put a note through her door taking away power of attorney around the time of the above (on the date of one of her adult daughters birthdays she claimed)

Un-convicted baby killer Billy Middleton stated, “Sandra came to a point whereby she was no longer prepared to carry on and wrote to Luke explaining why

Was this yet another bare faced lie?

Did killer Luke Mitchell and/or his mother Corinne Mitchell threaten WAP/Sandra Lean with legal action?

How did Sandra Lean self-publish her 2nd innocence fraud book in October 2018 without said power of attorney ?

Can killer Luke Mitchell and/or scammer Sandra Lean provide evidence for the exact dates of when Sandra had/was given power of attorney and when she didn’t have it?
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4360 on: November 03, 2023, 04:32:58 PM »
Nicky Brendan Aka Nicola Brennan - Facebook - today
Afternoon @everyone !!
Which of you lovely people will be able to join us on Saturday for the next protest?
We will be meeting from 12.30-1pm on the Royal Mile, straight across from the High Court for a 1pm start.


Nicola Brennan - 10th May 2021
I understand not tagging Sandra in posts, however I feel to is a bit ridiculous to remove my comment from here tagging her to make sure she see's this as it could be very important.

Stacy Stocks
Nicola Brennan same happened to me the other day, kinda gave up commenting now 

Gem Jayne
Sorry guys it is part of the agreed rules when joining the page. To explain why, it quickly adds up to hundreds of notifications a day for Sandra on top of an already busy schedule and admin are always on hand to answer any questions. We are moderating everything so ask as many questions and make as many comments as you like but we are all trying to avoid eating into Sandra's day. The mods and admin are an extension of Sandra so use us ✌❤

Nicola Brennan
Gem JC I totally understand that and it makes total sense.
However when it is relating to something important it seems crazy.
Its fine, I spoke to her myself

Lorraine Ann McClelland
That post has been up b4 I'm sure she must know about it xx

Nicola Brennan
Lorraine Ann McClelland yeah she had seen it, just wanted to make sure xx


If you are reading this Nicola Brennan Aka Nicky Brendan, you are being used, manipulated and triangulated by killer Luke Mitchell and scammer Sandra Lean

Triangulation is “a highly effective strategy to earn an advantage over noted rivals by manipulating them into conflicts between one another. Triangulation is a method used by selfish individuals to comfort and protect their egos.

https://www.verywellmind.com/what-is-triangulation-in-psychology-5120617#:~:text=Some%20people%20with%20narcissistic%20personality,keeping%20potential%20competitors%20off%2Dbalance
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Offline Kenmair

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4361 on: November 04, 2023, 08:12:01 PM »
Huge turn out for The Lean Roadshow in Edinburgh today - roads closed in all directions as newcomers flocked to hear the doctor testing her new-ish Britney Spears headset. Tip: don't stand in front of the speakers.

Merchandise and raffle tickets on sale too for the Save Our Sandra fundraiser coming soon - all for a good cause.

In reality, it was the usual stragglers with probably more banners on display than actual protesters.

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4362 on: November 04, 2023, 10:15:04 PM »
There were no calls made from the landline from the Mitchell house between 4:01pm up to 9:57pm

None!

The 9:57pm call from the Mitchell’s landline telephone was to a number in Bathgate

Who lived in Bathgate?

Mayfield to Bathgate is apparently a 35 minute drive
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Offline Kenmair

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4363 on: November 04, 2023, 10:40:24 PM »
Who lived in Bathgate?

Mayfield to Bathgate is apparently a 35 minute drive

Not sure if P Mitchell lived in Bathgate or Livingston at the time.

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4364 on: November 04, 2023, 10:53:39 PM »
Shane Mitchell appears to have got home at around 4:45pm to 4:50pm that day

His internet session began at 4:53pm

He told the jury he was at home between 4:55pm and left “just after” 6:20pm to visit Gary Coyle’s house
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