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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4665 on: November 22, 2023, 11:36:39 AM »
Justice for Luke Mitchell and Jodi Jones
@SharonIndy_[Name removed]LM
Oh watched the program and read the book say no more.  Sandra knowingly lied about the transcripts for years, she has now been caught out. She is the one who has called her credibility into question that is what is fake. So go back to causing harm to the children of your pics.
3:22 PM · Nov 20, 2023

Heather Brunt
@Truth4Luke
Oh the hate oozes out of you. I hope you feel better now
3:34 PM · Nov 20, 2023

Justice for Luke Mitchell and Jodi Jones
@SharonIndy_[Name removed]LM
The truth will set Luke free. Not lies. Why are the transcripts a dirty little secret? The reaction to these being released is very telling. You think that's hate? That is not even mildly annoyed. All that work the supporters have done and we are all treated with contempt by SL.
3:53 PM · Nov 20, 2023

Heather Brunt
@Truth4Luke
will the transcripts help Luke ? You're more interested in YOU, 'big bold Sharon has exposed a cult'. See if your pal Hamilton will do a DR spread, great headline
4:06 PM · Nov 20, 2023

Justice for Luke Mitchell and Jodi Jones
@SharonIndy_[Name removed]LM
Maybe you should open your eyes and shut your mouth. JH has had me blocked for years so go take a hike you muppet.  You are just pissed off because your hounding of potentially innocent people has been called out.  Nice work!!
4:30 PM · Nov 20, 2023

Heather Brunt
@Truth4Luke
That's the true Sharon right there, get it out girl #Exposed
4:33 PM · Nov 20, 2023

Justice for Luke Mitchell and Jodi Jones
@SharonIndy_[Name removed]LM
Nothing to expose, just like all your other posts.
4:36 PM · Nov 20, 2023


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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4666 on: November 22, 2023, 11:40:56 AM »
Scammer Sandra Lean’s second innocence fraud book contains around 378 pages - some of these pages include maps and photos etc

Shane Mitchell’s trial testimony runs to nearly 400 pages alone

Transcript #1 10/01/05 – 19 pages

Transcript #2 12/01/05 – 137 pages

Transcript #3 13/01/05 – 251 pages

When Shane Mitchell had finished giving evidence on the 13th January 2005 his mother Corinne Mitchell began giving her evidence, therefore the 251 pages also includes pages relating to Corinne Mitchell’s testimony

The above pages do not include copies of productions, maps, or copies of original police witness statements etc

The total cost for trials transcripts of Shane Mitchell’s testimony is £222.50

Transcript #1 10/01/05 – 19 pages - £11.50

Transcript #2 12/01/05 – 137 pages - £70.50

Transcript #3 13/01/05 – 251 pages - £127.50

Search & Correspondence fee - £13



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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4667 on: November 22, 2023, 02:40:39 PM »
Sandra Lean (27th June 2023)
Lynette Morrison Maria Shevlin Nicola Brennan Michelle Mulligan Heather Dempsey Carol Rice Mcmillan Kirsty Brown Biffy Mackay John Anderson Heather Brunt Caroline Ramsay Marie Milne Tracey Struthers Kareen Kenny
Can I just take this opportunity to thank very single one of you for the patient, compassionate and restrained manner in which you dealt with the obvious provocation of a couple of posters today. This is what it means to have free speech. I was concerned that there may be some negativity directed towards the original anonymous poster, from some who are in this group for all the wrong reasons - you guys took care of that situation spectacularly. It's such a weight off my mind - and the minds of those in the admin teams, across all the groups,  who work so hard to keep everything factual and to protect genuine members from abuse - to know that you all were willing to jump in today and prevent an unfortunate situation escalating into something much worse. And it's an outstanding example of everyone standing together to do the right thing. Thank you, I applaud every one of you.
To the original anonymous poster, I apologise for the negative posters, but I hope you feel acknowledged and supported by all our genuine members. I can assure you, YOU did not cause any upset or unpleasantness here  - I believe you did an enormously courageous thing in posting  to highlight how common this type of abuse of prisoners is.
For these reasons, I'm asking the admin team NOT to remove this thread - I'd like it to remain here as testament to how reasonable, compassionate and committed our group members are.


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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4668 on: November 22, 2023, 02:54:21 PM »
Jennifer Smith - Facebook (Around 17th March 2021)
This poor lad has been stitched up and I agree how can someone live with themselves for the last 17 yrs knowing they killed a young lass.

Sandra Lean
Jennifer Smith I don't think that's a fair or appropriate question. If someone has been hospitalised for mental health issues (and I have no idea who may or may not have been in relation to this case), then they are entitled to privacy while they receive treatment. I mean this as no criticism of you - I know people are just trying to make sense of it all, but this isn't something we should be discussing on social media this way. Thanks for understanding x


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Psychopathic murderers like Luke Mitchell don’t have the same range of emotions like people who are not psychopaths

There is nothing in the trial transcripts to suggest killer Luke Mitchell was “stitched up”
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4669 on: November 22, 2023, 03:10:29 PM »
What the trial transcripts are demonstrating to former supporters is that scammers Sandra Lean and Scott Forbes are bare faced liars, as are Corinne Mitchell and sadistic murderer Luke Mitchell

“Transcript comparisons”
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https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2023/11/transcript-comparison-notes.html
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4670 on: November 22, 2023, 03:24:50 PM »
What the trial transcripts are demonstrating to former supporters is that scammers Sandra Lean and Scott Forbes are bare faced liars, as are Corinne Mitchell and sadistic murderer Luke Mitchell

“Transcript comparisons”
👇
https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2023/11/transcript-comparison-notes.html

Corinne Mitchell confirmed during the trial that her sadistic murderer of a son Luke Mitchell was due to visit Kimberly Thomson in Kenmore and had made arrangements to stay with her for a week

”Luke had been due…. had been intending to go to Kenmore this weekend, 5th July to stay with C and Kimberley ~ excerpt from Corinne Mitchell’s police witness statement
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Offline Rusty

Re: Show me the money changing hands
« Reply #4671 on: November 22, 2023, 03:47:03 PM »
a phantom parka

And here, ladies & gentlemen, is how one loses a debate. Pretend something did not exist. When there is evidence to the contrary.

I revert back to my last point > fingers in one's ears.

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4672 on: November 22, 2023, 03:56:04 PM »
Corinne Mitchell confirmed during the trial that her sadistic murderer of a son Luke Mitchell was due to visit Kimberly Thomson in Kenmore and had made arrangements to stay with her for a week

”Luke had been due…. had been intending to go to Kenmore this weekend, 5th July to stay with C and Kimberley” ~ excerpt from Corinne Mitchell’s police witness statement

Didn’t Craig Dobbie say he thought sadistic murderer Luke Mitchell told Jodi Jones about his visit to Kimberley Thomson’s at lunchtime that day
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4673 on: November 22, 2023, 04:02:25 PM »
Corinne Mitchell confirmed during the trial that her sadistic murderer of a son Luke Mitchell was due to visit Kimberly Thomson in Kenmore and had made arrangements to stay with her for a week

”Luke had been due…. had been intending to go to Kenmore this weekend, 5th July to stay with C and Kimberley” ~ excerpt from Corinne Mitchell’s police witness statement

Scammer Sandra Lean from her second innocence fraud book p.169

None of the available evidence supported the claim that Luke was seeing another girl

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Excerpts from the trial

Alan Turnbull: Was he supposed to be staying

Corinne Mitchell: Yes he was supposed to be staying at Kimberley’s

Alan Turnbull: For how long

Corinne Mitchell: I wasn’t sure, probably a week 


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Offline Dexter

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4674 on: November 22, 2023, 05:12:27 PM »
Justice for Luke Mitchell and Jodi Jones
@SharonIndy_[Name removed]LM
Oh watched the program and read the book say no more.  Sandra knowingly lied about the transcripts for years, she has now been caught out. She is the one who has called her credibility into question that is what is fake. So go back to causing harm to the children of your pics.
3:22 PM · Nov 20, 2023

Heather Brunt
@Truth4Luke
Oh the hate oozes out of you. I hope you feel better now
3:34 PM · Nov 20, 2023

Justice for Luke Mitchell and Jodi Jones
@SharonIndy_[Name removed]LM
The truth will set Luke free. Not lies. Why are the transcripts a dirty little secret? The reaction to these being released is very telling. You think that's hate? That is not even mildly annoyed. All that work the supporters have done and we are all treated with contempt by SL.
3:53 PM · Nov 20, 2023

Heather Brunt
@Truth4Luke
will the transcripts help Luke ? You're more interested in YOU, 'big bold Sharon has exposed a cult'. See if your pal Hamilton will do a DR spread, great headline
4:06 PM · Nov 20, 2023

Justice for Luke Mitchell and Jodi Jones
@SharonIndy_[Name removed]LM
Maybe you should open your eyes and shut your mouth. JH has had me blocked for years so go take a hike you muppet.  You are just pissed off because your hounding of potentially innocent people has been called out.  Nice work!!
4:30 PM · Nov 20, 2023

Heather Brunt
@Truth4Luke
That's the true Sharon right there, get it out girl #Exposed
4:33 PM · Nov 20, 2023

Justice for Luke Mitchell and Jodi Jones
@SharonIndy_[Name removed]LM
Nothing to expose, just like all your other posts.
4:36 PM · Nov 20, 2023


I'm shocked to read this. Sharon is correct. Lies won't help...

Heather names and shames and then another buffoon posts as gospel to get his moment in the spotlight. I thought this is the exact thing Sandra didn't want.

She doesn't do it, but supports others who do. Same thing surely?

None of this is helpful.

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4675 on: November 22, 2023, 05:14:08 PM »

”Luke had been due…. had been intending to go to Kenmore this weekend, 5th July to stay with C and Kimberley ~ excerpt from Corinne Mitchell’s police witness statement

Excerpts from the trial

Alan Turnbull: Was he supposed to be staying

Corinne Mitchell: Yes he was supposed to be staying at Kimberley’s

Alan Turnbull: For how long

Corinne Mitchell: I wasn’t sure, probably a week 




Charlatan and fraudster Sandra Lean p.169

The prosecution contended that Jodi may have found out at lunchtime on June 30th that Luke had another girlfriend and was planning to visit her the following week. Jodi, they suggested, set out that evening to confront Luke about the other girl.
The other girl, Kimberley Thomson, lived some 60 miles away. Luke met her the previous year when the family were on holiday and the two thirteen-year-olds had a “holiday romance.” They kept in touch by phone and met up again in the New Year period of 2003. Luke had not seen Kimberley since, although they still chatted on the phone. The claim that he was planning to visit her again in July 2003 was based on Corinne’s plan to holiday in the same place – a plan that had since been cancelled.


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Offline faithlilly

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4676 on: November 22, 2023, 05:24:26 PM »
I have seen some of the trial transcripts, continually being obtained, at their own expense, by prominent supporters regarding a potential miscarriage of justice and simply wish the facts to be fully open, rather than a selective publication, often bearing a preconceived agenda.

One example of actual trial proceedings being signed off, is statedly certified:

"...in terms of Section 94(7) of the Criminal Proceedings (Scotland) Act 1995 that this transcript is a correct and complete transcript of part of the record..." etc.

It is dated 12 January, 2007.

Despite Sandra Lean's proclamations otherwise, have trial transcripts, only revealed now, in truth, been available to us all for 16 years and at no more than a  copying/admin fee, working out to be approx .60p per page?

Yet, as we know, only recently, Sandra Lean still vehemently asserted that obtaining copies were impossible and even if, would cost circa £60,000.

See the true, factual background, in my 8 November blog, regarding same:

https://lukemitchelltrial.blogspot.com/2023/11/availability-of-trial-transcripts.html

The, so far, acquired trial transcripts, several hundred pages already, are gradually appearing online and a sizable undertaking, especially having a responsibility to perhaps redact certain names.

These are costing hundreds of pounds, each time, for a small portion of the trial transcripts.

Think how much that money could have been better utilised by supporters, if only Sandra Lean had published the transcripts herself.

We are going to end up talking about a sizable, four figure sum.

A link to the new, imminent uploads, wil be posted here.

The transcripts do highlight significant, evidential material, which is at variance with Sandra Lean's published claims.

This will, entirely separately, be addressed shortly and a link posted here.

For me it’s not about Dr Lean’s guilt but Luke Mitchell’s innocence, or otherwise. Perhaps if you stick to the bald transcripts instead of character assassination the impact they obviously will have will be less diluted?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline faithlilly

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4677 on: November 22, 2023, 05:57:59 PM »
Charlatan and fraudster Sandra Lean p.169

The prosecution contended that Jodi may have found out at lunchtime on June 30th that Luke had another girlfriend and was planning to visit her the following week. Jodi, they suggested, set out that evening to confront Luke about the other girl.
The other girl, Kimberley Thomson, lived some 60 miles away. Luke met her the previous year when the family were on holiday and the two thirteen-year-olds had a “holiday romance.” They kept in touch by phone and met up again in the New Year period of 2003. Luke had not seen Kimberley since, although they still chatted on the phone. The claim that he was planning to visit her again in July 2003 was based on Corinne’s plan to holiday in the same place – a plan that had since been cancelled.


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“Had been intending”,  “was supposed”. I’m not sure how this proves that the holiday hadn’t been cancelled? Context is needed.


From the Guardian

Miss Thomson, from Kenmore, Perthshire, told the jury she and Mr Mitchell kept in contact after the summer of 2002 and met up in October, on Boxing Day and on Valentine's Day the following year.

She said Mr Mitchell had been due to visit her house on the Friday before Jodi died, but the trip had been cancelled

But when she was asked by the prosecuting advocate-depute Alan Turnbull QC whether it was in fact the following weekend that the two were due to have met up, the witness replied: "I can't remember."
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Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4678 on: November 23, 2023, 01:04:12 AM »
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Offline faithlilly

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4679 on: November 23, 2023, 01:47:57 AM »
*&^^&

From the BBC.

“ The accused also visited her on St Valentine's Day 2003.

Miss Thomson said Mr Mitchell was supposed to visit her last summer but this was "cancelled".

Are you saying that the witness was wrong or that a myriad of newspapers reported it incorrectly?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?