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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4815 on: November 27, 2023, 01:26:37 PM »
Several of the examples in the "Transcript Comparisons" are a bit of a stretch.  For example, a German army shirt is not a parka.

Rosemary Walsh clearly referred to a parka jacket

8th July 2003 - “If I was to describe what type of jacket, I’d say a parka

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http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=11976.msg708875#msg708875

Rosemary Walsh made her police witness statement before sadistic murderer and sexual deviant Luke Mitchell bought the replacement parka in FLIP

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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4816 on: November 27, 2023, 01:31:23 PM »
Missing the point. The transcripts and comparisons are there to show the deception not prove guilt, the bloggers making it clear their stance has always been around innocence. However, it has made them re-think, and rightly so, around everything that has been in place directly from Ms Lean and co. Which most sensible people would and should do. You like many others will see the why, of course you will, in place to gain attention and support for LM, it in no way makes it right or acceptable.

Strong points, aren't they? No forensic evidence, no murder weapon found, nothing upon the victim pointing this murder to a another, the eye witness stuff is something you simply do not hold any favour with at all. Those alone are enough for you to believe that LM is innocent (not alone), that the case could not have been proven beyond a reasonable doubt. - Why therefore do you think that Ms Lean has had to lie repeatedly? More so, do you think that it has been morally right for her to do so?  I note you decried JaJ's for clarifying something in her statements, applying a clear level of dishonesty to it, but nothing of the people who have been blatantly lying about her?

JaJ's, and not leaving aside that any changes were before the Jury. Her sister has just been found dead, she is given probably one of her shortest statements to the police and notes this "everyone in hysterics" This shorter statement where one is asked to expand upon later, we know this because it says they were considerably longer. She gives descriptions then of people individually, now out of everything she has been saying, shown in court, she agrees with, but adamant that her alteration still stood, it is exactly how they all were - Why would the police want expansion on this?

Can you pull up where LM said he was in hysterics? AW, SK, emergency services, police etc? Point being, when other people witnessed something different, it fits with her clarifications, doesn't it?  Doesn't say at all that she was lying, far from it. Not to forget that DF was attempting to show something, anything from his client against the myriad of other evidence to the contrary. I'm pointing out what the Jury may have taken from those alterations. Faith and signing something off, just how much was she really taken in when handed a piece of paper to sign? Not everyone was calm and collective like LM, were they now?

There’s nothing of Alice Walker scrambling over the wall either and Alice Walker never ”cradled” her grand-daughter Jodi Jones as her killer claimed to Grace McLean
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4817 on: November 27, 2023, 01:35:58 PM »
Grace McLean

I interviewed Mitchell months before he had been charged with the murder of Jodi, and days after he had been questioned by detectives hunting for her killer

What date was this?


Grace McLean stated;

Aged 15 at the time, the Luke Mitchell in front of me was an adult in everything but name.

Chain smoking and dressed in baggy jeans and a dark-coloured T-shirt, he exuded confidence bordering on arrogance.


This would have been days after his 14th August 2003 police interview
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4818 on: November 27, 2023, 01:44:40 PM »
Sadistic murderer and sexual deviant Luke Mitchell to Grace McLean;

My torch lit up the path like daytime and I was about 12 yards from Jodi when I saw her lying there

She was so white. Her throat had been slit and her head was to the side

“Her eyes were staring up at me and she was naked but for a pair of socks, I think... no, she wasn't wearing anything. Her body was so white and she was just staring and staring

“I shouted to the others but I couldn't tell them I'd found Jodi because I didn't want to upset her gran, but she said she wanted to come over the wall

“The others held her back but she scrambled over the wall and said if her granddaugher was there she wanted to be with her

“She sat down beside Jodi and cradled her in her arms


Open Your Eyes To The Continuous Blatant & Bare Faced Lies & Manipulation Of Scammer Sandra Lean On Sadistic Dalkeith Murderer - “Isn’t it amazing how quickly we forget” (Part 266)
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http://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2023/07/24/killer-luke-mitchell-open-your-eyes-to-the-continuous-bare-faced-lies-of-scammer-sandra-lean-on-sadistic-dalkeith-murderer-her-new-shop-front-part-266/

Grace McLean

As his story unfolded, it was clear he was a master of manipulation. His story was just too word-perfect. It was also, as has now transpired, a tissue of lies

‘He said police took a lock knife from him after being tipped off by friends

“The bloke who said this is a fantasist. Another of his friends told police Jodi and I were arguing all the time. But that's not true. We never had a cross word”.

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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4819 on: November 27, 2023, 01:57:26 PM »
Scott C Forbes
@AuldM
I've had IF for years, that's about the standard. I block them all
10:07 AM · Nov 27, 2023

Diane Nolan
@DianeNolan1
Just going by the interactions I had with them yesterday, they have nothing to say but scream it anyway.
10:09 AM · Nov 27, 2023

Scott C Forbes
@AuldM
They now have a group buying court transcripts to try and score points. Seriously ive had them for years.
10:11 AM · Nov 27, 2023


Diane Nolan
@DianeNolan1
That's what I didn't understand about them saying transcripts weren't available, at that time transcripts were given to both lawyers, so we're available. Not so now, which in my opinion is a disgrace and an affront to justice. They must be spending a fortune.
11:52 AM · Nov 27, 2023


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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4820 on: November 27, 2023, 02:47:32 PM »
Grace McLean

As his story unfolded, it was clear he was a master of manipulation. His story was just too word-perfect. It was also, as has now transpired, a tissue of lies

‘He said police took a lock knife from him after being tipped off by friends

The bloke who said this is a fantasist. Another of his friends told police Jodi and I were arguing all the time. But that's not true. We never had a cross word”.


In reality it was sadistic murderer and sexual deviant Luke Mitchell who was/is a fantasist
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4821 on: November 27, 2023, 04:18:19 PM »
Rosemary Walsh clearly referred to a parka jacket

8th July 2003 - “If I was to describe what type of jacket, I’d say a parka

👇
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=11976.msg708875#msg708875

Rosemary Walsh made her police witness statement before sadistic murderer and sexual deviant Luke Mitchell bought the replacement parka in FLIP


So Rosemary Walsh’s evidence of having seen sadistic murderer and sexual deviant Luke Mitchell wearing a parka jacket at around 5:40pm on 30th June 2003 could NOT have been tainted by any photograph’s which were published by mainstream media in mid August 2003
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4822 on: November 27, 2023, 04:39:20 PM »
Why didn’t sadistic killer Luke Mitchell phone 999 as soon as he allegedly saw Jodi Jones body?

If as he claimed

My torch lit up the path like daytime and I was about 12 yards from Jodi when I saw her lying there

She was so white. Her throat had been slit and her head was to the side

“Her eyes were staring up at me and she was naked but for a pair of socks, I think... no, she wasn't wearing anything. Her body was so white and she was just staring and staring


Why did he wait until Steven Kelly and Alice Walker climbed through the V and why did he stay on the woodland side when the police phoned him on his mobile to find out where he was?

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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4823 on: November 27, 2023, 04:49:24 PM »
Why didn’t sadistic killer Luke Mitchell phone 999 as soon as he allegedly saw Jodi Jones body?

Why did he wait until Steven Kelly and Alice Walker climbed through the V and why did he stay on the woodland side when the police phoned him on his mobile to find out where he was?

Also

Why did sadistic killer Luke Mitchell answer his mobile when the police called him - while he was standing on the other side of the V + but ignored his mother Corinne Mitchell’s phone calls?
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4824 on: November 27, 2023, 05:17:38 PM »
Steven Kelly didn’t notice the socks - did he?

Sadistic murderer and sexual deviant Luke Mitchell to Grace McLean;

My torch lit up the path like daytime and I was about 12 yards from Jodi when I saw her lying there

She was so white. Her throat had been slit and her head was to the side

“Her eyes were staring up at me and she was naked but for a pair of socks, I think... no, she wasn't wearing anything. Her body was so white and she was just staring and staring

“I shouted to the others but I couldn't tell them I'd found Jodi because I didn't want to upset her gran, but she said she wanted to come over the wall

“The others held her back but she scrambled over the wall and said if her granddaugher was there she wanted to be with her

“She sat down beside Jodi and cradled her in her arms



If Steven Kelly had noticed the socks and mentioned these to the police in his statements, wouldn’t Donald Findlay have highlighted this point to the jury - in an attempt to support what his client had alleged he had seen (and bragged to Grace McLean about) at around 11:30pm on that evening?


Full trial testimony of Steven Kelly https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2023/11/steven-kelly-full-transcripts.html
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Offline Parky41

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4825 on: November 27, 2023, 05:29:26 PM »
Facebook: July '21'

Sandra Lean
They are, presumably, referring to the
page numbers of the statements after
they are typed up consecutively for
the case papers. But it's an odd
request, since p1184 is halfway
through one of Janine's statements!!!.

If they are referring to trial transcripts
p21 - 11184, that covers the period 29th
November to 14th Dec - eyewitnesses,
the Mitchells' neighbours and the
search trio.
None of these are available to the public.

Stephan McNally
Sandra Lean thank you Sandra glad.
your still here.


Been spinning that yarn for sometime, and as we seen with BR. still spinning it.


Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4826 on: November 27, 2023, 05:36:54 PM »
Facebook: July '21'

Sandra Lean
They are, presumably, referring to the
page numbers of the statements after
they are typed up consecutively for
the case papers. But it's an odd
request, since p1184 is halfway
through one of Janine's statements!!!.

If they are referring to trial transcripts
p21 - 11184, that covers the period 29th
November to 14th Dec - eyewitnesses,
the Mitchells' neighbours and the
search trio.
None of these are available to the public.

Stephan McNally
Sandra Lean thank you Sandra glad.
your still here.


Been spinning that yarn for sometime, and as we seen with BR. still spinning it.

Bob Ruff is another innocence fraudster who’s popularity took a nose dive sometime ago. This fact possibly wasn’t known about by those people who chose to contact Ruff over killer Luke Mitchell’s fraudulent spin campaign
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Offline Kenmair

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4827 on: November 27, 2023, 05:37:01 PM »
THE TRUTH.....

That you with many more, have promoted the lies told, that false narrative, repeatedly over time. Who have the cheek now to say one should not have simply looked to DR Lean for information, when she is the very person you have mimicked for years, her alter ego. - You want to take her out the equation?

Every transcript that has come out shows Lean has lied or manipulated information for her own ends. The fact she claimed the transcripts were not publicly available or too expensive is more lies. She has lied from day one saying she got a note through her door when CM was a already a visitor to her new age shop.

Quote from: Bullseye on May 20, 2023, 03:11:39 PM
Yeah I’m not sure she would share it either but going by the other people that interviewed her and Scott they have seen bits and Bobs. If Sandra truly believes the evidence she has speaks for itself then she should have no problem sharing the information.

Or perhaps Dr Lean is being absolutely honest and legally can’t supply the information requested? It’s interesting though that if the information is available to the public then no one has produced one statement in the last 20 years that refutes anything that Dr Lean has said.
(faithlilly)

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4828 on: November 27, 2023, 05:44:05 PM »
Facebook: July '21'

Sandra Lean
They are, presumably, referring to the
page numbers of the statements after
they are typed up consecutively for
the case papers. But it's an odd
request, since p1184 is halfway
through one of Janine's statements!!!.

If they are referring to trial transcripts
p21 - 11184, that covers the period 29th
November to 14th Dec - eyewitnesses,
the Mitchells' neighbours and the
search trio.
None of these are available to the public.


“Liked” by 13 people including that creepy man Ron Mothersole

Ron Mothersole
Sandra Lean  your Ace

Ron Mothersole
Sandra Lean please  pm


Do you think she sent him a PM?
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4829 on: November 27, 2023, 06:11:00 PM »
Sadistic murderer and sexual deviant Luke Mitchell to Grace McLean;

My torch lit up the path like daytime and I was about 12 yards from Jodi when I saw her lying there

She was so white. Her throat had been slit and her head was to the side

“Her eyes were staring up at me and she was naked but for a pair of socks, I think... no, she wasn't wearing anything. Her body was so white and she was just staring and staring

“I shouted to the others but I couldn't tell them I'd found Jodi because I didn't want to upset her gran, but she said she wanted to come over the wall

“The others held her back but she scrambled over the wall and said if her granddaugher was there she wanted to be with her

She sat down beside Jodi and cradled her in her arms


Why did sadistic murderer and sexual deviant Luke Mitchell choose to lie like this about Alice Walker in August 2003 and what exactly was he telling other people around this time?
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