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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #5040 on: December 05, 2023, 11:15:33 AM »
Donna E did a video with that misogynist Matt Elliott after the crimes that shocked Scotland TV show on 20th October 2022. Their focus appeared to be to slate JH 🙄

Donna’s latest https://youtu.be/pzz2zcq5m9o?si=nqxd8M0Et-3vYIr2 using another sock puppet - “fellow ship” 🙄

Again Donna -

on the 8th July 2003 Rosemary Walsh stated in her 1st sworn police statement

If I was to describe what type of jacket, I’d say a parka

Rosemary Walsh’s statement was made before killer Luke Mitchell had even worn his new replacement parka, which he had purchased from FLIP on the 8th/9th July 2003 - depending on what date was accurate
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #5041 on: December 05, 2023, 11:36:53 AM »
UPDATED
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Scammer Sandra Lean & Her Bogus Stirling University PhD Thesis Aptly Titled “Hiding In Plain View” (Part 280)
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http://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2023/12/04/killer-luke-mitchell-scammer-sandra-lean-her-stirling-university-phd-thesis-aptly-titled-hiding-in-plain-view/
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #5042 on: December 05, 2023, 11:50:36 AM »
Rosemary Walsh’s statement was made before killer Luke Mitchell had even worn his new replacement parka, which he had purchased from FLIP on the 8th/9th July 2003 - depending on what date was accurate

There is a media article which stated killer Luke Mitchell bought the replacement parka jacket from FLIP 8 days after he committed his murder - which would be the 8th July 2003

A staff member recognised killer Like Mitchell when he went into FLIP that day and alerted his manager, who in turn alerted the police.

The staff member who recognised killer Luke knew Jodi Jones
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #5043 on: December 05, 2023, 11:56:00 AM »
Donna E did a video with that misogynist Matt Elliott after the crimes that shocked Scotland TV show on 20th October 2022. Their focus appeared to be to slate JH 🙄

Donna’s latest https://youtu.be/pzz2zcq5m9o?si=nqxd8M0Et-3vYIr2 using another sock puppet - “fellow ship” 🙄

Donna - the first photograph of killer Luke Mitchell wearing his replacement parka was published by the media on the 15th August 2003
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #5044 on: December 05, 2023, 12:45:55 PM »
I think it's also quite telling that she omits the evidence of what it was that made this parka unique.

The unique aspect of this  jacket was7 discussed at the original trial --

the German army badge on the sleeve.

SL, between pages p217-225 of IB, makes reference to a german army shirt that LM had owned, and mentions the young guy  -- who was called as a witness in court -- who saw Luke wearing a khaki green parka before the murder, in a shop (Eskbank Trading).

There is a lot of deflection and deliberate omissions within these pages.

She makes out that the aforementioned young guy only said that he saw LM wearing a parka because LM was frequently pictured in the tv news and newspapers wearing a parka jacket since August 15th 2003 (the date when the very first pic of LM wearing a parka was made public);

however, what SL omits from IB is that this young guy was very specific during his court testimony, crucially saying that his sighting of LM wearing the parka in Eskbank Trading shop was BEFORE the murder.

The young guy was unequivocal about this. Also, this same young guy said that there was another reason for remembering his sighting -- because of the German Army badge on the sleeve, and that his own mother had the exact same jacket.

Clear deflection and omission by SL, imo, as, presumably, she had read about all of this in the case files she has access to?

Anyway, after delving a little further into the case, the army clothing and Luke's Army Cadet membership becomes very significant indeed, imo.

Yet, SL downplays it, or deliberately deflects and omits. It would be useful to read the case files to ascertain how many people mentioned LM wearing the Parka Jacket, specifically one with a German Army badge on the sleeve, prior to the murder?

I wonder, too, how many of the 8 eyewitnesses called to court specifically to give evidence in relation the parka jacket sightings prior to ther murder, made reference to a german army badge on sleeve?

Remember, the police had 20 witnesses in total willing to testify about LM wearing a parka before the murder, but only used 8 of those in court. AB, LF, RW and the young guy from Eskbank Trading all made reference to Army clothing/parka jacket with German Army badge on sleeve.

Does anyone know who else mentions this? Oh, allegedly JudJ testified under oath that LM had worn a green parka before the murder.

Anyone care to chip in or add anything to the above?

8th July 2003 - Rosemary Walsh stated in her statement to police “If I was to describe what type of jacket, I’d say a parka”

9th July 2003 - Andrew Holburn stated to police Luke was wearing dark blue baggy jeans and a dark green shirt

"It was definitely, definitely a shirt, not a jacket

"I think it was buttoned-up but I couldn't see anything underneath it

"It was about down to the waist of his jeans and baggy

"I might have seen a shirt like in the window of Flip, it's a boardy punk shop up the bridges

https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2023/11/transcript-comparison-notes.html

8th or 9th July 2003 - Killer Luke Mitchell bought the replacement parka from FLIP
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Offline James_Easton

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #5045 on: December 05, 2023, 03:25:07 PM »
'SMOKE AND MIRRORS'

If perhaps of related interest...

https://m.facebook.com/groups/594743596079701/permalink/601983778689016/

Offline Parky41

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #5046 on: December 05, 2023, 03:40:59 PM »
'SMOKE AND MIRRORS'

If perhaps of related interest...

https://m.facebook.com/groups/594743596079701/permalink/601983778689016/

I'm with Myster - It's enough joining X, no intention of being on FB. Sure whatever is being discussed will make its way into other areas though.

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #5047 on: December 05, 2023, 04:15:09 PM »
I'm with Myster - It's enough joining X, no intention of being on FB. Sure whatever is being discussed will make its way into other areas though.

Why do Donna and James Easton appear intent on putting more misinformation into the public domain?

Misinformation” is something Donna whinged about in a 20th October 2022 video on Facebook

It was Jigsawman who was “unmasked” as Sandra Lean James Easton

Why aren’t you seemingly interested in what Jigsawman posted on the “fact & myth” forum?

Donna Easton claims in her latest video it was “difficult” for her to find photos of killer Luke Mitchell wearing his replacement parka

Wasn’t he meant to be all over the media in this replacement parka?

Why had Donna found it “difficult” ?
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #5048 on: December 05, 2023, 06:34:44 PM »
Christopher John Halkides
As the person who began the LM thread at the International Skeptics Forum in 2019, I am a bit puzzled.  I am not aware of a previous thread on Mitchell circa 2010 (the forum had a different name then: JREFF).  Sandra Lean did make a few comments in the 2019 thread under her own name.  As an aside, I recommend the ISF thread chiefly for Rolfe's contributions analyzing the deficiencies in the key eyewitness testimonies.  Toward the end of the thread (which is still on-going), I added a number of comments which contrast good eyewitness practice with what was done in this case, and I gave examples of problematic eyewitness testimony from other cases to illustrate some of these points.  Perhaps a separate thread on this subject would be worth considering.


Surprise surprise 🙄

You are yet another innocence fraud phenomenon grifter Chris Halkides

And it would appear the only reason you attempted to smear Roberta Glass on the same forum was because you know she too sees through grifters like yourself

 
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #5049 on: December 05, 2023, 07:50:18 PM »
Killer Luke Mitchell: Matthew Elliott & Donna Easton & Their Protestations & Flawed “Research”For Innocence Fraud Pusher Bob Ruff (Part 282)
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https://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2023/12/05/killer-luke-mitchell-matthew-elliott-donna-easton-their-protestations-researchfor-innocence-fraud-pusher-bob-ruff-part-282/
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #5050 on: December 05, 2023, 08:01:51 PM »
Christopher John Halkides
As the person who began the LM thread at the International Skeptics Forum in 2019, I am a bit puzzled.  I am not aware of a previous thread on Mitchell circa 2010 (the forum had a different name then: JREFF).


One of the first forums which referred to sadistic murderer Luke Mitchell was the Gerard Keegan forum

Gerard Keegan called himself theweeman and a killer LM thread was started on the 22nd January 2005

https://gerardkeegan.proboards.com/thread/247/luke-mitchell

It is very possible scammer Sandra Lean may have posted to this forum before Colin Bowman aka bobbiedog set up his LM “fact and myth” forum - which Sandra Lean joined in August 2005 as Jigsawman

There have been numerous forums since then, including many which no longer exist - this includes the “fact and myth” forum, the WAP forum, the Glasgow forum and there was a previous forum to this forum
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #5051 on: December 05, 2023, 08:25:30 PM »
Christopher John Halkides
As the person who began the LM thread at the International Skeptics Forum in 2019, I am a bit puzzled.  I am not aware of a previous thread on Mitchell circa 2010 (the forum had a different name then: JREFF).  Sandra Lean did make a few comments in the 2019 thread under her own name.  As an aside, I recommend the ISF thread chiefly for Rolfe's contributions analyzing the deficiencies in the key eyewitness testimonies.  Toward the end of the thread (which is still on-going), I added a number of comments which contrast good eyewitness practice with what was done in this case, and I gave examples of problematic eyewitness testimony from other cases to illustrate some of these points. Perhaps a separate thread on this subject would be worth considering.


And no doubt you referred to other examples of innocence fraud cases/public relations spin campaigns
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #5052 on: December 05, 2023, 09:38:32 PM »
Christopher John Halkides
As the person who began the LM thread at the International Skeptics Forum in 2019, I am a bit puzzled.  I am not aware of a previous thread on Mitchell circa 2010 (the forum had a different name then: JREFF).  Sandra Lean did make a few comments in the 2019 thread under her own name.  As an aside, I recommend the ISF thread chiefly for Rolfe's contributions analyzing the deficiencies in the key eyewitness testimonies.  Toward the end of the thread (which is still on-going), I added a number of comments which contrast good eyewitness practice with what was done in this case, and I gave examples of problematic eyewitness testimony from other cases to illustrate some of these points.  Perhaps a separate thread on this subject would be worth considering.


“Good eyewitness practice” - what nonsense!

You should not conflate one case with another - just as you should not conflate one eye witnesses with the next eye witness

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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #5053 on: December 05, 2023, 09:50:40 PM »
One of the first forums which referred to sadistic murderer Luke Mitchell was the Gerard Keegan forum

Gerard Keegan called himself theweeman and a killer LM thread was started on the 22nd January 2005

https://gerardkeegan.proboards.com/thread/247/luke-mitchell

Psychology student Colin Bowman aka bobbiedog stated on the 31st January 2005;

Has anyone entertained the notion that he might be innocent?
Or, if not convinced of his innocence, been concerned by the nature of his prosecution?


and by the 1st February 2005 Colin Bowman stated

thinksoutsidethebox, I've personally spoken to Mrs Mitchell by phone, and to a professional prison worker also in contact with the family: and we have shared concerns about the case.

I am mindful to remain in contact with the family, and become part of a loose network supporting Luke and his family: and to over time, and cooperatively make the whole matter of the prosecution's material something that we chew over; and, perhaps, seek a long term push to have the verdict overturned as unsafe.

I think that every aspect of the "evidence", from local Dalkeith, through the police and the media, and including the expert testimony: leaves ground for grave concern.

I take it to be something of a ground breaking case: perhaps legitimating new canons of evidence.


The “loose network” supporting sadistic murderer Luke Mitchell and his family would have included scammer Sandra Lean and Gemma Chapman aka Freddie Gren
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #5054 on: December 05, 2023, 10:28:30 PM »
One of the first forums which referred to sadistic murderer Luke Mitchell was the Gerard Keegan forum

Gerard Keegan called himself theweeman and a killer LM thread was started on the 22nd January 2005

https://gerardkeegan.proboards.com/thread/247/luke-mitchell

On the 11th February 2005 Colin Bowman aka bobbiedog stated;

I've written to Findlay, Mrs Mitchell and Luke: and subsequently spoken to Mrs Mitchell on the telephone; and have had telephone and e-mail contact with a prison visitor who has visted Luke with his mother, and as something of a supporter.

I have also had it reported to me by several sources, that a professional investigative journalist is currently undertaking local research, as are other private persons.

This is the best quality thread I have encountered on the net, which is addressing the Luke Mitchell issue.

It is clear that a significant body of people share your concern, from a broad spectrum of perspectives, and for a broad spectrum of reasons.

I have my own perspectival vein on this that I would wish to mine, in concert with others.

Some meeting and concert and pooling of understandings is indicated.

Personally I anticipate that the perspectives involved in overturning this verdict will be wieghty:

Luke Mitchell was found guilty by his times, by the peers of his times, and through the politically driven reformist social processes of his times; overturning this verdict, IMO, will involve some fundamental perspectival countervailing of these times.

That is a massive human endeavour: which means that you have to begin, prepared for a long haul, with the best of perspectival kit.

This becomes one reason amongst others, why any campaign will be soft-start and slow-start.

The others are that Donald Findlay has still to exhaust appeal procedures:

Mrs Mitchell is still bedding into her circumstance of distress; and Luke is not yet in fit condition to take the central role he must, in any campaign on his behalf.

Mrs Mitchell and Luke will meet and respond to this circumstance of theirs, in their own way.

Their ways do not yet interface with those others, who might eventually work in effective concert with them.

Mrs Mitchell is hurt, angry, wishing to effectively strike back against injustice done.

Luke is so immured in his sense of innocence, that he is yet to fully experience the depths of his predicament.

Both, perhaps, may take some time to exhaust native response: those supportive others who presently circle, as do we, have things to work out too.

Immediate concern is with Luke as a still developing young man, now denied much of what was his life. Just how he is to sustain personal integrity, and then continue to grow: that is some large matter.

I intend to tread water while keeping in touch with the family: and am keeping a contact list of those who have shown interest in supporting the Mitchell family; and that listing might contribute to a support group, when that begins to coalesce.

If anyone wishes to join such a list: then I can e-mail updates on whatever comes my way, as information and understanding, of what is happening and being considered.

My e-mail adress is : namwob.niloc@virgin.net.

If anyone has better suggestions about how to sustain contact between those who might eventually form the nucleus of a campaign or support group: then I would be most grateful for such suggestion.

I'll pass the news to the Mitchell family, by the conduit of relation that I have, that others think and feel as you do FairTrial. That news alone will be of great comfort to them; as it is also to me.



The visitors Colin Bowman referred to could have been Sandra Lean and her youngest daughter
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