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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #5265 on: December 19, 2023, 10:14:51 PM »
Scammer Sandra Lean (page 127)👇

Just before six o’clock, Luke was identified by people who knew him, sitting on a wall at the end of his street, 400 – 500 metres further along the Newbattle Road, wearing completely different clothes (baggy jeans, green bomber jacket with orange lining and distinctive, light coloured snowboarding boots).

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Page 130

After Luke’s picture appeared in the media for the first time on August 15th, Rosemary Walsh began telling work colleagues that Luke was the person she and her sister-in-law saw on the evening of June 30th, (fully six weeks earlier). A colleague urged her to go to the police but she did not do so. In the event, the colleague called the police and passed the information to them.


Scammer Sandra Lean bottom of page 130, top of page 131

Can it reliably be claimed that these witnesses were not being influenced by investigators?
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Scammer Sandra Lean page 238

“It is possible that this was how Rosemary Walsh first reference to the jacket came to exist, especially since all of the other evidence had Luke wearing a green bomber jacket with orange lining”

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Again - Rosemary Walsh gave her first witness statement to the police on the 8th July 2003

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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #5266 on: December 19, 2023, 10:22:20 PM »
Anyway, after reading AH & CH's testimonies, it seems to me that LM was never wearing his padded green waist-length bomber jacket on the NB road after the LF &  RW sighting (i.e., not wearing it between 1745 - 1820). This would make sense as I always thought him getting home after that sighting to change jackets and be back on to the NB road for just before 1800, was a bit of a stretch (although not impossible). I think LM went home at approx 1820 -- just after cyclist Grant Elliot saw him for a second time on NB road -- and started disposal of all the clothes he was wearing (with assistance from both his mother and brother) and changed into other clothes (freshly laundered possibly, since the boys he met with at the abbey at 1930 said in their testimonies that he was cleaner than normal; it's also possible he had a quick wash in his house somewhere, since he probably had no traces of blood on his body -- the parka jacket he was disposing probably took the only traces of incriminating DNA), including the bomber jacket.

Did the Mitchell’s have an outdoor tap?
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Offline Mr Apples

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #5267 on: December 19, 2023, 10:23:49 PM »
What about the footwear he was wearing at the time?

Killer Luke Mitchell went from wearing dark footwear to light footwear

From memory, AB initially described (from the book, IB) a youth wearing 'big boots' along with 'army clothing'. I've always presumed this to be a pair of chunky black Doc Marten boots. It would be handy if AB's full transcript was uploaded to read what she said exactly in regard to LM's footwear that day, though I'm sure if she'd seen white boots she would have said so and SL would've mentioned it in her book ('IB'). Again, it would be helpful if the full transcripts were available of all the eyewitnesses who saw LM between 1650 - 1820 (1820 being aporoximately the time he went back home to begin disposal and change clothes and footwear before meeting the boys in the abbey @ 1930) to read what they all said in relation to LM's clothing & footwear that evening.

I don't think the boots were destroyed in the burner (too messy and risky), but discarded somewhere well away from the house. SM was (deliberately or coincidentally?) out and about in Bathgate seeing a friend that night, so it's possible he dumped boots and clothing belonging to his wee brother there, off the beaten path. Or CM got rid of them; as per the episode with the knife purchased on December '03, she was able to hide things successfully -- even from a professional search team.

Offline Mr Apples

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #5268 on: December 19, 2023, 10:40:05 PM »
Did the Mitchell’s have an outdoor tap?

I don't know. Even if they did, I don't think he would risk using an outdoor tap. I think he either used the house bathroom (knowing he had no trace of blood on his body) or a stream or brook in one of the woodland strips near his house. I think he washed in an area where he wouldn't be seen by anyone.

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #5269 on: December 19, 2023, 10:41:30 PM »
From memory, AB initially described (from the book, IB) a youth wearing 'big boots' along with 'army clothing'. I've always presumed this to be a pair of chunky black Doc Marten boots. It would be handy if AB's full transcript was uploaded to read what she said exactly in regard to LM's footwear that day, though I'm sure if she'd seen white boots she would have said so and SL would've mentioned it in her book ('IB'). Again, it would be helpful if the full transcripts were available of all the eyewitnesses who saw LM between 1650 - 1820 (1820 being aporoximately the time he went back home to begin disposal and change clothes and footwear before meeting the boys in the abbey @ 1930) to read what they all said in relation to LM's clothing & footwear that evening.

I don't think the boots were destroyed in the burner (too messy and risky), but discarded somewhere well away from the house. SM was (deliberately or coincidentally?) out and about in Bathgate seeing a friend that night, so it's possible he dumped boots and clothing belonging to his wee brother there, off the beaten path. Or CM got rid of them; as per the episode with the knife purchased on December '03, she was able to hide things successfully -- even from a professional search team.

Both scenarios are totally possible

Shane Mitchell had plenty of time to dispose of incriminating evidence, as did Corinne Mitchell

Plus his grandmother Ruby Guetta only lived a couple of miles away and uncle Des Guetta was living with his mother


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Offline Mr Apples

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #5270 on: December 19, 2023, 11:05:04 PM »
Could he have had the green shirt stashed in his parka when Andrina Bryson saw him & the bulging pocket?

How many green khaki green army shirts did he own?

Did that come out during the trial?

It's possible, but I don't think so. He likely wore it underneath the parka all along, imo.

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #5271 on: December 19, 2023, 11:11:10 PM »
It's possible, but I don't think so. He likely wore it underneath the parka all along, imo.

Agreed

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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #5272 on: December 19, 2023, 11:13:59 PM »
I don't know. Even if they did, I don't think he would risk using an outdoor tap. I think he either used the house bathroom (knowing he had no trace of blood on his body) or a stream or brook in one of the woodland strips near his house. I think he washed in an area where he wouldn't be seen by anyone.

There was reference to the river near the Tarzan swings near his house in trial transcripts

He could have washed his hands in any nearby stream, brook or river and then use the outdoor tap (if they had one) before washing his hands again once he was inside the house

In reality it wouldn’t have taken much to remove any blood on his hands and it’s not like the police surgeon (Dr Kranti) carried out any tests for blood on his body like they do in a forensic laboratory

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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #5273 on: December 19, 2023, 11:22:10 PM »
From memory, AB initially described (from the book, IB) a youth wearing 'big boots' along with 'army clothing'. I've always presumed this to be a pair of chunky black Doc Marten boots.

Who, other than David High, David Tullock and the other lad, said they saw killer Luke Mitchell wearing light cream coloured snow boots and the bomber jacket?
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #5274 on: December 19, 2023, 11:32:18 PM »
Which one out of Dean Houston & Grant Elliott claimed killer Luke Mitchell was sitting on a wall - or was this story manufactured also?

Andrew Holburn stated the killer was standing https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2023/12/andrew-holburn-one-of-three-witnesses.html

Photography student Andrew Holburn explains he and his two friends were cycling down Newbattle Road, Dalkeith, towards the Jewel and Esk College on Monday, June 30, last year when they saw a young man standing at the entrance to the Roan's Dyke path.

As they passed the youth, Andrew asked who he was. Both his pals said it was Luke Mitchell.

Grant Elliot and Dean Houston, both 15, confirm to the court that they had seen Mitchell on the night Jodi was killed.

All three witnesses identify Mitchell in the dock. Houston, who said he occasionally cycled to school with Mitchell, says: 'I'm sure he was on the phone.'

And Grant Elliot tells the court that Mitchell was still standing at the same spot 20 minutes to half an hour later.
https://www.thefreelibrary.com/THE+JODI+JONES+TRIAL%3A+A+strangling+sort+of+sound%2Ca+human.+It+sounded...-a0125808235

According to the above excerpts the killer was STANDING

Will be interesting to see what trial transcripts say about killer Luke Mitchell’s mobile phone records
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #5275 on: December 20, 2023, 12:02:27 AM »
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #5276 on: December 20, 2023, 12:21:15 AM »
Lorraine Fleming full transcript 1/12/2004
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Alan Turnbull: Did there come a rime when you saw a picture of a young man in the newspaper

Lorraine Fleming: Yes

Alan Turnbull: Can you help us to understand how that came about?

Lorraine Fleming: There was a picture when my partner brought the paper in one night I was reading through it and there was a picture, it was like one of the Gallagher twins (sic)

Alan Turnbull: Right

Lorraine Fleming: And it was the hairstyle that I had says to Patrick, I says that’s so like the hairstyle I seen down (incomprehensible)

Alan Turnbull: Let me see if I can follow that up and look with me at production 60. Now can we see this in the monitor please

Judge: I think we just need the lower part of the page

Alan Turnbull: This is a copy of the,, it is I think the daily star for Tuesday, July 8th. So that’s.. can you focus on the date. Yes. the star oh I’m sorry, yes its July 8th. And accordingly this would be a week and a day after the journey you’ve been telling us about 

Lorraine Fleming: Yes

Alan Turnbull: And the article is concerning Liam Gallagher and there is a picture of him in a jacket and standing beside a young lady. And is that the picture you’ve just been telling me about

Lorraine Fleming: Yes

Alan Turnbull: And what was it that you thought when you saw this picture of Gallagher?

Lorraine Fleming: It was just the way his hair was lying on his face

   


Lorraine Fleming kept this newspaper and subsequently handed it to the police
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #5277 on: December 20, 2023, 05:21:57 PM »
Alan Turnbull: Did there come a rime when you saw a picture of a young man in the newspaper

Lorraine Fleming: Yes

Alan Turnbull: Can you help us to understand how that came about?

Lorraine Fleming: There was a picture when my partner brought the paper in one night I was reading through it and there was a picture, it was like one of the Gallagher twins (sic)

Alan Turnbull: Right

Lorraine Fleming: And it was the hairstyle that I had says to Patrick, I says that’s so like the hairstyle I seen down (incomprehensible)

Alan Turnbull: Let me see if I can follow that up and look with me at production 60. Now can we see this in the monitor please

Judge: I think we just need the lower part of the page

Alan Turnbull: This is a copy of the,, it is I think the daily star for Tuesday, July 8th. So that’s.. can you focus on the date. Yes. the star oh I’m sorry, yes its July 8th. And accordingly this would be a week and a day after the journey you’ve been telling us about 

Lorraine Fleming: Yes

Alan Turnbull: And the article is concerning Liam Gallagher and there is a picture of him in a jacket and standing beside a young lady. And is that the picture you’ve just been telling me about

Lorraine Fleming: Yes

Alan Turnbull: And what was it that you thought when you saw this picture of Gallagher?

Lorraine Fleming: It was just the way his hair was lying on his face

   


Lorraine Fleming kept this newspaper and subsequently handed it to the police

And looked nothing like innocent Mark Kane and his “curtain” hairstyle from that video taken of him at Newbattle abbey college

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Will scammers Sandra Lean and Scott Forbes be withdrawing their fraudulent books?

Will there be civil legal proceedings against the pair of them in the near future?
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Offline Kenmair

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #5278 on: December 20, 2023, 06:41:12 PM »
And looked nothing like innocent Mark Kane and his “curtain” hairstyle from that video taken of him at Newbattle abbey college

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Will scammers Sandra Lean and Scott Forbes be withdrawing their fraudulent books?

Will there be civil legal proceedings against the pair of them in the near future?

I doubt they'll withdraw their books but various legal proceedings seem to be sooner than later and Paypal, Inland Revenue etc are on her case for illegal activities/undeclared earnings etc.

Will be good to see her squirm. Anyone still want to defend her?

Offline faithlilly

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #5279 on: December 20, 2023, 08:53:34 PM »
I doubt they'll withdraw their books but various legal proceedings seem to be sooner than later and Paypal, Inland Revenue etc are on her case for illegal activities/undeclared earnings etc.

Will be good to see her squirm. Anyone still want to defend her?

I’m at a loss to understand this kind of hatred towards someone you have never met. It’s all rather sinister.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?