ECHR urge McCanns to reach friendly settlement with Gonçalo Amaral.

[G-Unit]

It is of interest when clearly The McCanns were not responsible, after you suggested that they were.

Amaral should try suing all of the various other bodies to whom he owed large sums.

I'm trying to understand why the Sun seems convinced that the McCanns owe compensation to Amaral.

"Kate and Gerry, both 50, won a 2015 libel case against him but it was later overturned and Amaral was awarded compo."
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/7281872/madeline-mcann-fund-750k-case/

There are no records suggesting that Amaral was awarded 'compo', just the allegations in the Sun.

[Eleanor]

I'm trying to understand why the Sun seems convinced that the McCanns owe compensation to Amaral.

"Kate and Gerry, both 50, won a 2015 libel case against him but it was later overturned and Amaral was awarded compo."
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/7281872/madeline-mcann-fund-750k-case/

There are no records suggesting that Amaral was awarded 'compo', just the allegations in the Sun.

Let me know when you find out.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I'm trying to understand why the Sun seems convinced that the McCanns owe compensation to Amaral.

"Kate and Gerry, both 50, won a 2015 libel case against him but it was later overturned and Amaral was awarded compo."
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/7281872/madeline-mcann-fund-750k-case/

There are no records suggesting that Amaral was awarded 'compo', just the allegations in the Sun.

There's only one way to find out and that's to ask the Sun journalist who wrote the article.

[Eleanor]

There's only one way to find out and that's to ask the Sun journalist who wrote the article.

Goodness me, what a good idea.

[kizzy]

So despite the McCanns allegedly bringing out the worst in you that when it comes to their legal action at the ECHR you don’t actively want them to fail. Yes, and I’m sure you posted that while riding on the back of a flying pig.

IMO the settlement thing is what has been going on for the last two and a half months.

As for the mccs legal action do I care what happens at ECHR ...no.

As for them bringing the worst out in me is that usually, I am a caring compassionate/sympathetic person ...with them I have no sympathy whatsoever...or care whether they win or loose.

It's like you VS ....you are awful - but I like you.

[Vertigo Swirl]

IMO the settlement thing is what has been going on for the last two and a half months.

As for the mccs legal action do I care what happens at ECHR ...no.

As for them bringing the worst out in me is that usually, I am a caring compassionate/sympathetic person ...with them I have no sympathy whatsoever...or care whether they win or loose.

It's like you VS ....you are awful - but I like you.

Thank you.  I like you too.  I think you are a decent person, on the whole. 

[Brietta]

It clearly states in the Madeleine's Fund accounts for Y/E March 2017 that the sum of £ 51,718 owing to 'Other creditors' includes costs due to Isabel Duarte relating to the libel action brought by Gerald and Kate McCann against Amaral.
https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/06248215/filing-history

It also states in the Y/E March 2014 accounts that the Fund paid the expenses of the witnesses the McCanns called to Lisbon to give evidence in the libel action against Amaral.
https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/06248215/filing-history

Although the payments of the costs ordered by the Supreme Court aren't specifically mentioned in the accounts, my opinion is that they were met by the Fund in addition to paying the lawyer's fees and the witness's costs.

As to your inclusion of a newspaper article mandated by the McCann couple, obviously it attacks Amaral or they wouldn't have authorised it.

'Kate and Gerald McCann respond to Goncalo Amaral Jornal da Regiao - Oeiras

 Isabel Costa Pereira
Mandated by Gerald and Kate McCann'
https://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Nigel/id408.htm

You have posted ~
"It's only a guess on my part but I wonder if it's connected to the fact that a freezing injunction taken out by the McCanns stopped Amaral from accessing his money for years. Perhaps he has the right to be compensated for that."

Which parodies the rubbish printed in the Portuguese media and picked up and propagated by internet gossip much as you have done in your post which necessitated the McCanns having to take steps to set the record straight on the fact that

• their court action against the libels circulated was not responsible for allegations of Amaral's penury
• Amaral was in dire financial straights and enormous debt before the McCanns ever set foot in Portugal

Is it any wonder the McCanns had to take recourse to the ECHR when the propaganda job carried out on them at all levels in Portugal was so effective that individuals such as yourself believe it and post about it until this day.

[Eleanor]

You have posted ~
"It's only a guess on my part but I wonder if it's connected to the fact that a freezing injunction taken out by the McCanns stopped Amaral from accessing his money for years. Perhaps he has the right to be compensated for that."

Which parodies the rubbish printed in the Portuguese media and picked up and propagated by internet gossip much as you have done in your post which necessitated the McCanns having to take steps to set the record straight on the fact that

• their court action against the libels circulated was not responsible for allegations of Amaral's penury
• Amaral was in dire financial straights and enormous debt before the McCanns ever set foot in Portugal

Is it any wonder the McCanns had to take recourse to the ECHR when the propaganda job carried out on them at all levels in Portugal was so effective that individuals such as yourself believe it and post about it until this day.

I agree.  And I am getting very fed up with this misinformation.

[Brietta]

IMO the settlement thing is what has been going on for the last two and a half months.

As for the mccs legal action do I care what happens at ECHR ...no.

As for them bringing the worst out in me is that usually, I am a caring compassionate/sympathetic person ...with them I have no sympathy whatsoever...or care whether they win or loose.

It's like you VS ....you are awful - but I like you.

The primary purpose of Kate and Gerry McCann is Madeleine ~ I am always impressed by the cavalier sceptic attitude which reduces her to less than a footnote in their diatribe of hatred for her parents.  All in line with the absolute panic engendered by the mere thought of the McCanns having recourse to the ECHR that some even denied the possibility it could happen 😊

[Mr Gray]

The primary purpose of Kate and Gerry McCann is Madeleine ~ I am always impressed by the cavalier sceptic attitude which reduces her to less than a footnote in their diatribe of hatred for her parents.  All in line with the absolute panic engendered by the mere thought of the McCanns having recourse to the ECHR that some even denied the possibility it could happen 😊

[Brietta]

I agree.  And I am getting very fed up with this misinformation.

I believe that the author of an ebook on another forum specialising in promulgating such misinformation ( really just downright lies when it boils down to it) has withdrawn the last two chapters for rewriting.

Never having read any of it I don't have an opinion short of wondering what motivates someone to write something where the concluding chapters require to be excised ... maybe the original 'research' wasn't up to scratch?

[Wonderfulspam]

The primary purpose of Kate and Gerry McCann is Madeleine ~ I am always impressed by the cavalier sceptic attitude which reduces her to less than a footnote in their diatribe of hatred for her parents.  All in line with the absolute panic engendered by the mere thought of the McCanns having recourse to the ECHR that some even denied the possibility it could happen 😊

Unless they fancy a drink & some snacks.

[kizzy]

The primary purpose of Kate and Gerry McCann is Madeleine ~ I am always impressed by the cavalier sceptic attitude which reduces her to less than a footnote in their diatribe of hatred for her parents.  All in line with the absolute panic engendered by the mere thought of the McCanns having recourse to the ECHR that some even denied the possibility it could happen 😊

Can you point out where in my post I mentioned hatred B.

[G-Unit]

You have posted ~
"It's only a guess on my part but I wonder if it's connected to the fact that a freezing injunction taken out by the McCanns stopped Amaral from accessing his money for years. Perhaps he has the right to be compensated for that."

Which parodies the rubbish printed in the Portuguese media and picked up and propagated by internet gossip much as you have done in your post which necessitated the McCanns having to take steps to set the record straight on the fact that

• their court action against the libels circulated was not responsible for allegations of Amaral's penury
• Amaral was in dire financial straights and enormous debt before the McCanns ever set foot in Portugal

Is it any wonder the McCanns had to take recourse to the ECHR when the propaganda job carried out on them at all levels in Portugal was so effective that individuals such as yourself believe it and post about it until this day.

Your point seems to be that the McCanns weren't responsible for Amaral's 'penury'. Interesting though that may be, it fails to deal with my point, which was why the Sun seems to believe that compensation of £750,000 is owed to Amaral. Perhaps we should just believe the Sun?

[Eleanor]

Your point seems to be that the McCanns weren't responsible for Amaral's 'penury'. Interesting though that may be, it fails to deal with my point, which was why the Sun seems to believe that compensation of £750,000 is owed to Amaral. Perhaps we should just believe the Sun?

What difference will it make?