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Offline Paranoid Android

Re: Is DR Sandra Lean a credible source?
« Reply #270 on: May 20, 2021, 12:03:43 PM »
I'm sure any graphic images were shown to whoever was deemed appropriate in order to illustrate whatever point  was being made.

You wouldn't want to share those images unless it was necessary - it was obviously deemed necessary to show these images to SM.

Offline faithlilly

Re: Is DR Sandra Lean a credible source?
« Reply #271 on: May 20, 2021, 12:23:26 PM »
I'm sure any graphic images were shown to whoever was deemed appropriate in order to illustrate whatever point  was being made.

You wouldn't want to share those images unless it was necessary - it was obviously deemed necessary to show these images to SM.

Why? What could he possibly have told the jury about those images? We know SK was shown the images in order to confirm the body’s position etc when found but what knowledge could the jury have gained from SM being shown those images?
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Re: Is DR Sandra Lean a credible source?
« Reply #272 on: May 20, 2021, 12:40:20 PM »
Why? What could he possibly have told the jury about those images? We know SK was shown the images in order to confirm the body’s position etc when found but what knowledge could the jury have gained from SM being shown those images?


Did Shane even know Jodi?

I'm a cynic (!!), so I'm guessing he was shown the images to show him "exactly what his little brother was capable of", and to rid him of any sympathy he might otherwise  have felt  for him.

Offline Angelo222

Re: Is DR Sandra Lean a credible source?
« Reply #273 on: May 20, 2021, 01:19:28 PM »

Did Shane even know Jodi?

I'm a cynic (!!), so I'm guessing he was shown the images to show him "exactly what his little brother was capable of", and to rid him of any sympathy he might otherwise  have felt  for him.

Wouldn't he have seen her hanging around with Luke at the family home or at Scott's Caravans?
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Is DR Sandra Lean a credible source?
« Reply #274 on: May 20, 2021, 02:56:22 PM »

Did Shane even know Jodi?

I'm a cynic (!!), so I'm guessing he was shown the images to show him "exactly what his little brother was capable of", and to rid him of any sympathy he might otherwise  have felt  for him.

I think if they were going to use the photographs in that way they would have done so in his police interview.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Nicholas

Re: Is DR Sandra Lean a credible source?
« Reply #275 on: May 20, 2021, 04:40:38 PM »
This is interesting ⬇️


Sandra Lean
‘King Bear made my day with that post!! He made it just a few days before the film came out, making himself look like a right, royal fool!!! There are too many trolls to delete all their comments and some of them are so ridiculous, they just advertise themselves as trolls anyway - e.g. "She's not a dr" and "got her degree off the internet in a day" - yeah, so I fooled all these experts and professionals with a fake degree, did I?



I wonder if Sandra Lean can produce proof for the above?

‘King Bear’ made comments here https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KmlWcVBU4f8 in response to ‘unicorn princess’ who is Sandra Leans oldest daughter

The ‘King Bear’ and ‘Unicorn Princess’ comments have now been removed from the you tube video Sandra posted about Chris Bews/Bamber case

Did ‘King Bear’ or someone else make a comment somewhere else allegedly stating  ‘got her degree off the internet in a day’

or is Sandra Lean conflating this with what was stated in relation to her publisher Stephen T Manning ?

https://t.co/tIh82S63vs?amp=1

Dr. Manning, Ph.D.” (STM), the man who has made several innocent people’s lives hell over the last few years by going after them, harassing them and smearing them with false accusations – his latest victim the Christian blogger, Miriam Franklin at Endtimespropheticwords (ETPW) – makes misrepresentations about what his academic qualifications are.

STM is obviously aware that calling himself a Doctor and putting a Ph.D. after his name gives him an air of credibility and intelligence, earning himself respect he wouldn’t otherwise get. It makes it seem he knows what he’s talking about. And it makes people trust him more. But STM is a fake and doesn’t deserve either the public’s trust or respect.

STM is not a real doctor. STM doesn’t have a doctorate from an accredited academic institution. He bought his combined masters degree and doctorate from a notorious American diploma mill in Hawaii so he therefore technically and ethically shouldn’t use the titles ‘Dr’ or ‘Ph.D’ by his name. But STM does use the titles frequently, showing off his alleged Ph.D status in every comment he leaves in his own name on the net. I say “in his own name” as he also posts things without admitting he’s the author


Stephen T Manning latest https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GtNATTnAlLY&feature=youtu.be
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Is DR Sandra Lean a credible source?
« Reply #276 on: May 26, 2021, 09:54:20 AM »
We are seeing so many people quote sandra leans book as there source, the only source for facts on the case.

My question is she a credible source?

Sandra Lean is a complete and utter hypocrite

Media wars are not my thing. Misinformation is not my thing’

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,8086.msg382996.html#msg382996


I’ve lost count at the amount of ‘misinformation’ and downright lies Sandra has placed in the public domain re the murder of [Name removed]

And her claims of ‘media wars are not my thing’ is in complete contrast to her actual behaviour

When will her followers come to their senses?
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Offline Angelo222

Re: Is DR Sandra Lean a credible source?
« Reply #277 on: May 26, 2021, 11:07:37 AM »
Sandra Lean is a complete and utter hypocrite

Media wars are not my thing. Misinformation is not my thing’

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,8086.msg382996.html#msg382996


I’ve lost count at the amount of ‘misinformation’ and downright lies Sandra has placed in the public domain re the murder of [Name removed]

And her claims of ‘media wars are not my thing’ is in complete contrast to her actual behaviour

When will her followers come to their senses?

Like lambs to the slaughter.
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

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Offline Rusty

Re: Is DR Sandra Lean a credible source?
« Reply #278 on: May 26, 2021, 07:28:57 PM »
When will her followers come to their senses?

Well going by the comments under her latest YouTube video, sense among her followers is non-existent. I honestly don't know whether to laugh or cry, after reading through some of that madness. I wonder how many of those pop-up accounts are Sandras  *&^^&

Offline Nicholas

Re: Is DR Sandra Lean a credible source?
« Reply #279 on: May 26, 2021, 07:47:47 PM »
Well going by the comments under her latest YouTube video, sense among her followers is non-existent. I honestly don't know whether to laugh or cry, after reading through some of that madness. I wonder how many of those pop-up accounts are Sandras  *&^^&

Yes I’ve just read Jane Metcalfe’s (friend of killer Robin Garbutt) spiel re Alex Hanscombe and the murder of Rachel Nickell

JM:‘Such a tragic thing, but what a lovely, lovely young man..we can`t expect the Police to catch every criminal but we should be able, at the very least, to expect them not to make a case fit around a suspect they`ve decided on. Wrongful convictions don`t help anyone: society are only fooled into thinking `justice was done` :,( It`s been said so many times but the public perception surrounding our criminal justice system needs to change! Everyone needs to be much more aware of how easy and how regular, miscarriages of justice` come about. Anyone can see how hard you have worked Sandra on Lukes case and how LONG it takes, it is not good enough that at every stage the CJS cling to the wrongful conviction :,( x

I wonder if or when it will dawn on JM she’s being ‘fooled’ (duped) by Garbutt and many others
« Last Edit: May 26, 2021, 07:51:17 PM by Nicholas »
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Is DR Sandra Lean a credible source?
« Reply #280 on: May 26, 2021, 10:44:50 PM »
Well going by the comments under her latest YouTube video, sense among her followers is non-existent. I honestly don't know whether to laugh or cry, after reading through some of that madness. I wonder how many of those pop-up accounts are Sandras  *&^^&

Fortunately a lot of the public seem to be sensing, however late, that a grave miscarriage of justice has occurred.

Some, unfortunately, just seem to be behind the curve.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Nicholas

Re: Is DR Sandra Lean a credible source?
« Reply #281 on: May 26, 2021, 10:57:43 PM »
Fortunately a lot of the public seem to be sensing, however late, that a grave miscarriage of justice has occurred.

A couple of thousand people isn’t ‘a lot of the public’ 🙄
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Offline Parky41

Re: Is DR Sandra Lean a credible source?
« Reply #282 on: May 26, 2021, 11:34:26 PM »
A couple of thousand people isn’t ‘a lot of the public’ 🙄

I think very fortunately that is somewhat delusional - I have just watched a little more of one of these Q&A - even the new people on board are stating that Ms Lean is repeating herself.- And she is. And what couple of thousand people? - There may have been the usual bandwagon of people initially. Being hounded and added to groups. There are very few who actually, actively take part in discussion. - And of these (cough) thousands - around 50 turned out for the protest. Not even his own mother attended, nor father or brother of course. And of this graffiti and make shift posters - it is down to two or three individuals. Namely SD and his female side kick. - Now whether this will grow or diminish more only time will tell. - But the nonsense that Nicholas highlighted earlier - of writing to MPs and so forth - about the Jury, Judge, Lothian and Borders, detectives, DF and the pathologist to boot - shows how out of touch with reality - these people really are.

Of the SCCRC. - Of her submission. One is still shaking their head from the first time I heard her mentioning this. Of a circumstantial case. Of each individual piece of evidence being put together in sequence. That none hold merit individually. This is the sensible part, and one understands totally why she must yet again explain this to the level of intellect in the comments section? - Then again explains, how she? put in her "information" not evidence of each individual point. That this should have basically cancelled out each point of evidence in the circumstantial case against LM - That all that she put in, should also have been joined together as was the case?? -That the SCCRC did not do this and of how it is wrong?  - No what is wrong, is that that they looked at the evidence, the investigation and not Ms Leans version of it, of her "information" to cancel it out. We already know one key area she used. That of MK, and of lookalike, of owning a Parka jacket and of being on Newbattle Road that evening.

And of disclosure - that old chestnut again. Using the mere fact that somethings were not retained by DF, in his case that he built up, in his defence of LM - Like the phone logs, the statement of alibi from Mr Kelly and the likes - these were not hidden, the SCCRC highlighted these clearly in their report.. But no - they must have been hidden, not disclosed to the defence -  As Ms Lean had already written chapters worth of the stuff, made many claims around certain areas had she not? She needs something to blame does she not? - therefore, disclosure is used? - Thus why she now wants an Independent review - so that everything, she has never had, that she has had no legal right to have - can be disclosed?

The SCCRC looked at everything - they as with the Crown and the defence - had access to all that went into the investigation. They built up their case from each stance around this.- And of the 'Cadder ruling' - that, had LM's appeal been heard just days earlier - then his conviction would have been overturned - Ah, if only it were that simple. So, with this it is - to hang with all the evidence that convicted him - she is claiming that by the skin of his teeth - he could have been released on some technical area of law?

And of her holding onto all that she does have. Not handing it over to anyone else. To protect Luke, his mother and the case - should it EVER go forward? - As if she didn't need to do all of this - then she would gladly hand the whole lot over - nope. Would it not be closer to the mark to say - I need to hold onto what I do have, as people will know for a fact what I have done - they will see the truth in those defence papers she does hold. She/they don't even reveal the actual evidence direct from the Mitchells on this basis? It is not to protect the case - it is to keep the truth hidden?

Offline Nicholas

Re: Is DR Sandra Lean a credible source?
« Reply #283 on: May 26, 2021, 11:43:08 PM »
I think very fortunately that is somewhat delusional - I have just watched a little more of one of these Q&A - even the new people on board are stating that Ms Lean is repeating herself.- And she is. And what couple of thousand people?

I was being overly generous in my estimation - I agree  @)(++(*



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Offline Nicholas

Re: Is DR Sandra Lean a credible source?
« Reply #284 on: May 26, 2021, 11:45:43 PM »
And of these (cough) thousands - around 50 turned out for the protest.

 @)(++(*
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