The Bambers: Murder at the farm - Sky Crime documentary

[Myster]

Where was Angela Greaves husband whilst she was seemingly being triangulated by Bamber?

Perched sulking in a cuckold's cage probably.

[Myster]

These two appear to have realised they superimposed a photograph of Anji Greaves alongside executioner, child killer and sexual predator Bamber

They’ve opted for a single snapshot now https://twitter.com/CouldMurderAPod/status/1444619997792411649

Nothing new or worthwhile listening to here... just another boring couple jumping on the Bamber podcast please-fund-me bandwagon...

https://audioboom.com/posts/7953728-the-whitehouse-farm-murders

[Nicholas]

Perched sulking in a cuckold's cage probably.

It’s possible Brett Collins met one or both of the Greave sisters when he visited with Bamber prior to the murders

Roger Wilkes Blood Relations
‘Collins explained that he was a friend of Jeremy’s, who had spent three months with him in New Zealand when Brett had a catering business there. The business had since been sold, Brett Collins added, and he’d been on holiday for most of the summer, spending several weeks with Jeremy at Goldhanger. He’d been on a trip to Greece when he heard about the tragedy at White House Farm. He’d taken the first available flight to London.

He arrived here some day after the 17th June, I think... but definitely left for three weeks in Greece on the 19th July.

Anji was due to marry in the July 1985 so what Brett Collins told Kay Page could have been related to her

Brett Collins to Kay Page (https://www.dropbox.com/s/cz3kitv4d4xsh5i/Brett%20interview.pdf?dl=0)

’They were kind of part-time whenever he wanted sex I gathered, she wasn’t, she hadn’t moved in. I don’t think he wanted her to move in because there were other girls that were coming and going

The lady that came with me and we found the lawyer for Jeremy. What turned out was that her younger sister was having an affair at the same time with Jeremy and she’s the girl that was in London with us at his sisters flat when she’d died and been buried. She answered the phone one day and it was Julie ringing to talk to him and his mistress answered   the phone and that’s what set the whole thing off

About two weeks after this happening, the murders, she was about to get married to some guy she was engaged to but all that time she’d been having an affair with Jeremy. But they wanted to keep it from the press.And also from the police and prosecution So nobody actually knows this until now.

I knew her through Jeremy and I knew her younger sister because she came and stayed with us in London in the townhouse.

She posed as Jeremy’s sort of other girlfriend but it wasn’t her at all it was her younger sister and they all went to ground just so they wouldn’t bring any heat on the sister that who was getting married’


‘The Narcissists Best Play’ https://psychcentral.com/blog/psychology-self/2019/10/triangulation-and-narcissism#1

‘Within the vast catalogue of toxic behavior, triangulation is amongst the most well-known. It is very common, especially among narcissistically inclined individuals, and can be overt, or insidious, and many people dont even realize they have been triangulated until it is too late. Indeed, those who regularly manipulate others will resort to triangulation because it is an easy, low cost but high yield behavior.

Although well known in unhealthy and toxic family dynamics, its not just limited to families. Triangulation can occur in any relationship including friendships, romantic relationships, and in the work place. But what is triangulation, exactly? Why it is it such a common manipulation tactic? And how can you recognize it?

Triangulation is when a toxic or manipulative person, often a person with strong narcissistic traits, brings a third person into their relationship in order to remain in control. There will be limited or no communication between the two triangulated individuals except through the manipulator. It may appear in different forms, but all are about divide and conquer, or playing people against each other.

It is a highly effective strategy to gain an advantage over perceived rivals by manipulating them into conflicts with one another. Triangulation is the method used by narcissistically inclined individuals to soothe and protect their ego, in part because they lack whole object relations. This is the inability to see that most people have a mix of good and bad qualities and seeing things as black or white only.

Triangulation in Romantic Relationships
‘Similarly, in a romantic relationship, the manipulator will bring another person, more often than not a new romantic interest but perhaps a platonic friend, into their primary intimate relationship in order to create discord, confusion, and jealousy. The disordered individual will enjoy the attention, whether negative or positive, and may even let the triangulated individuals know about each other so they fight for their attention.

Sometimes, the triangulated individuals may not even know that they are being used to manipulate others, or only one of them may be aware. Worse still, a narcissistically inclined person may triangulate someone that they are no longer in contact with in order to control those they are in contact with.

’Louis Theroux says there’s “more to” Bamber family case in Murder at the Farm’
Excerpt:
‘Asked whether we could see a second series, he said: “I would say never say never. In the fourth episode, the possibility is raised of a third party, but it’s unlikely that we would do another series. Obviously, there’s a key contributor – Julie Mugford, who was [Jeremy Bamber’s] girlfriend at the time and a linchpin in the case. If she called up and said, ‘I’ve seen the series and I want to give you an interview and break my silence,’ then there might be a conversation to be had. The fact is, there’s still work to the case, but it’s very hard to explain.”
https://www.radiotimes.com/tv/documentaries/true-crime/louis-theroux-murder-at-the-farm-bamber-case-newsupdate/

What about Anji and Virginia Greaves?

How many ‘girlfriends’, or boyfriends, did Bamber have at the time he committed mass murder?

Were they also ‘key contributors’ ?

Why hasn’t Louis Theroux also considered Angela and Virginia Greaves?

And why weren’t both sisters called as prosecution witnesses?

[Nicholas]

What does Angela Greaves witness statement to police say and why is only Virginia’s statement referred to and not hers?

Has anyone seen Anji Greaves police witness statement?

[2002] EWCA Crim 2912
113. On Tuesday 3 September the couple met again in London at the flat which had belonged to Sheila Caffell. Again Miss Mugford raised the question of their relationship and his part in the killing. During their conversation the appellant received a telephone call from an ex-girlfriend and Miss Mugford heard him asking her out. She became angry and threw an ornament box at a mirror and then slapped the appellant. He became very angry and twisted her arm up behind her back. Four days later, she went to the police.

If Virginia Greaves was an ‘ex girlfriend’ of Bamber’s and had allegedly met her prior to Suzette Ford how old would she have been ?

Excerpt from Roger Wilkes book Blood Relations

’French-born Suzette Ford, a striking blonde with a husband and three children, had met Jeremy in 1979, when he was eighteen, in a wine bar in North Hill, Colchester, called the Frog and Beans. In his words – ‘it was instant attraction’. Suzette was beautiful, funny and interesting, very different from the teenage girls who used to hang around the bar waiting to be chatted up by the local youths.


Was one of ‘the teenage girls who used to hang around the bar waiting to be chatted up by local youths’ Virginia Greaves?

[Nicholas]

Has anyone seen Anji Greaves police witness statement?

[2002] EWCA Crim 2912
113. On Tuesday 3 September the couple met again in London at the flat which had belonged to Sheila Caffell. Again Miss Mugford raised the question of their relationship and his part in the killing. During their conversation the appellant received a telephone call from an ex-girlfriend and Miss Mugford heard him asking her out. She became angry and threw an ornament box at a mirror and then slapped the appellant. He became very angry and twisted her arm up behind her back. Four days later, she went to the police.

If Virginia Greaves was an ‘ex girlfriend’ of Bamber’s and had allegedly met her prior to Suzette Ford how old would she have been ?

Excerpt from Roger Wilkes book Blood Relations

’French-born Suzette Ford, a striking blonde with a husband and three children, had met Jeremy in 1979, when he was eighteen, in a wine bar in North Hill, Colchester, called the Frog and Beans. In his words – ‘it was instant attraction’. Suzette was beautiful, funny and interesting, very different from the teenage girls who used to hang around the bar waiting to be chatted up by the local youths.


Was one of ‘the teenage girls who used to hang around the bar waiting to be chatted up by local youths’ Virginia Greaves?

If Virginia Greaves was an ex girlfriend of Bamber’s and had ‘an affair’ with him prior to Sue Ford - she would have been what 16/17 years old?

Excerpt from Roger Wilkes book Blood Relations
‘On Friday one of Jeremy’s old girlfriends, Virginia Greaves, made a chance reappearance. Virginia, a twenty-three-year-old personal assistant, had been a member of the Frog and Beans’ drinking set for about three years; she had been a girlfriend of Michael Deckers at one time, and had had an affair with Jeremy in the days before Sue Ford arrived on the scene. At the time of the Bamber killings, she hadn’t seen him for over a year. She had sent him a condolence card, but had received no response. Then, through Michael Deckers, she had heard that Jeremy was trying to find someone to rent Sheila’s old flat in Maida Vale and to act as landlady when Jeremy himself wasn’t there. The prospect appealed to Virginia Greaves, and she telephoned Jeremy at his cottage. He was out, so she left a message on his answering machine.

[Nicholas]

Para 139 of CoA judgement
‘Apart from Julie Mugford the appellant suggested that other witnesses had told lies about him during the trial. They included Mrs Mugford, James Richards, Dorothy Foakes and Robert Boutflour.

Excerpts from Roger Wilkes
‘Arlidge moved on to the evidence of the soldier, James Richards, who shared digs with Julie Mugford and had given evidence about Jeremy saying he hated his parents. Jeremy denied saying this, but agreed it was the sort of thing that young people might say when complaining about their parents. Jeremy’s voice had now dropped to a whisper, and both the judge and Geoffrey Rivlin had to ask him to speak up so that the jury could hear. The judge was particularly anxious to hear more from Jeremy on the subject. Why should James Richards come to court and swear that Jeremy had said, with vehemence, ‘I hate my f..king parents’? The judge’s intervention seemed to silence Jeremy Bamber. ‘He said that you said it two or three times,’ the judge reminded him. ‘That is what he said,’ Jeremy agreed. Mr Justice Drake was not satisfied. ‘Can you explain to the jury why you think that man should come along and give that evidence to this court if it is not true?’ Jeremy paused. ‘I can only surmise, my lord, that people’s recollections of such events have been changed because of the way I have been portrayed in the newspapers, because he is a friend of Julie’s, and he doesn’t know me that well. Really, I don’t know the reasons why people do this. I wish I did,’ he added. In fact, Jeremy agreed with Anthony Arlidge that everyone who had been asked about him had lied.


What did Virginia and Anji Greaves say Bamber had said about his parents?


‘Arlidge picked up the point that, throughout his evidence, Jeremy had indicated that certain witnesses were lying about their conversations with him, or their recollections of those conversations. Speaking of his uncle, Robert Boutflour, Jeremy said it was ‘very dangerous’ to guess at why he might not be telling the truth. As for James Richards, and the conversation about hating his parents, he was simply mistaken. The conversation had happened long before, and Richards had been influenced by the charges against him and the adverse publicity. The judge tried to short-circuit the point. ‘You think that the allegations and publicity against you have affected them?’ ‘Well, I’m sure it has,’ Jeremy replied. The judge asked if he had any comment on the other witnesses. Jeremy said he thought there were only two people who were actually lying: Julie Mugford – who had just made up her story – and Robert Boutflour.

With that, Anthony Arlidge proceeded with his questions. At length he came to the night of the murders, and the episode in which Jeremy had taken the loaded .22 Anschutz to shoot some rabbits. On his return, and not having fired a shot, he left it in the kitchen.
A dangerous thing to do? suggested Arlidge.
Yes, Jeremy agreed, and he now wished he hadn’t done it.
‘Just think about it for a minute. How long do you think it would have taken you to carry that gun and that magazine and put them in the den and gone out the back door?’
‘Yes,’ Jeremy replied quietly, ‘I wish I had done it now.’
‘How long would it have taken you?’
‘Well, minutes really. Seconds. Not very long, minutes.’
‘Seconds?’ ‘Well.’
Arlidge sensed his quarry tiring. ‘Thirty seconds, you could have done it, couldn’t you?’ The answer was little more than a mumble.
‘Maybe I could have done it, yes.’ Then a pause. ‘I was being lackadaisical,’ he added, as if to himself.
‘Pardon?’ said Arlidge, ‘You were being lackadaisical?’ Silence. ‘You are whispering now,’ observed the judge.
“Sorry,’ murmured Jeremy Bamber.
‘Everything plays on . . . hangs on every word, my lord.’ ‘You were reducing your answer to a whisper,’ the judge repeated.
‘It was something to myself, my lord.’ Arlidge pressed home. ‘You said, “I was being lackadaisical,” didn’t you?’ No answer. ‘Didn’t you?’
‘That is what I said to myself, yes.’
But Jeremy’s original explanation for leaving the loaded gun lying around was that he was in a hurry to get back to the field for the combine. Jeremy agreed he was in a hurry, adding that he still should have put the weapon back in the gun cupboard.
‘But I didn’t know what was going to happen, did I?’
‘You are not telling the truth about it, are you?’
‘That,’ Jeremy Bamber replied softly, ‘is what you have got to try and establish.’

[Nicholas]

Did you notice Michael Fielder leading away Brett Collins after he'd been released without charge, to sell his story to the SUN for a four-figure sum?  Brett Collins must have been the instigator of their scoop about Bamber and himself hawking around nude photos of Sheila Caffell, even though he vehemently denied it in his interview with Kay Page...

Brett Collins and Bamber’s meeting with Michael Fielder in the Nags Head pub Chelmsford  ⬇️

Bamber and his mate Brett collins had been rooting round Sheila flat loking for money and valuables to tide Bamber over until the wills were sorted out, they found nothing..except the nude pictures of sheila.

 Jeremy and Brett discussed what they should do with their find, Bamber was certain the photographs would prove to be a little gold mine he needed to carry him over the next few months.

They decided the quickest and easiest way to make money from them would be to sell thm to a newspaper, Brett suggested the Sun. Brett already had dealings with one of its reporters. collins rang The sun and asked to speak to Michael Fielder, Fielder had folloewd the WHF story closely.

They arranged a meeting in the Nags Head Pub in Chelmsford.

The three met up and Fielder was amazed at the attitude of the young men "Collins and Bamber turned up and we had a few drinks and a snack" remembered Fielder. "They were sniggering and giggling together like a couple of schoolboys. i asked them about the photographs and Bamber said "oh, they are really good pictures of bambi-with the biggest vibrator you ever saw"

Fielder said "they gave me the impression that the pictures showed bambi doing things to herself with the vibrator, the two men were laughing and sharing in jokes".

But Bamber and Collins went further with their scandalous hints, according to the reporter. "They were trying to give me the impression that Bambi and jereny had been with each other. there was was loads of innuendo about Bamber and his involvment with her. it was all crude suggestiveness and snigger snigger.

the trio discussed the proposed sale for an hour. bamber was asking a price of £20,000 for about twenty topless and nude colour transparencies. "they show everything, right down to the last detail. Tehy are really good pictures" said jeremy. bamber also discussed the possibility of selling unpublished pictures of his parents and murdered nephews, Bamber said he would be looking for a substantial sum and would be prepared to sell his own life story.

Fielder said he was amazed at the complete callousness displayed by bamberand was keen to follow up this incredible turn of events to see where it led. bamber had not brought the photos with him so they made arrangments to meet at Sheilas Morshead mansions flat.

Fielder phoned the Sun and the Editor was of the opinion that Bamber trying to sell nude pictures of his dead sister appalling. he said "tell the b........ to stick his pictures". Editor told fielder to write a story of what bamber had tried to do, Filder id as the editor asked but thinks it was a mistake.Fielder wanted to go along with the pretence of buying them so that he could check they actually existed.

Fielders story on the attempted sale of the pictures by bamber appeared in the next edition of the sun. Discouraged by the failed attempt the pair never got intouch with the sun again.

Michael Fielder reflected on the episode " i have been in this job for 20 yrs and i have seen a lot of terrible crimes, but this one sent chills down my spine. it was really incredibly bad and bamber himself sent a shiver through me when i was talking to him. of course i knew the police wre sure he had done it so i went to the meeting with a certain view of him. i found it amazing that he could be so self assured, arrogant, not caring at all about what had happened.

By the way Fielder DID make a statement to the police about the episode, the police even asked Fielder if he would give evidence in court should he be needed.

Would be great to get hold of that statement. So anyone who says there is no evidence that bamber tried to sell his dead sisters private pictures, well now we know !!!

[Nicholas]

’Louis Theroux says there’s “more to” Bamber family case in Murder at the Farm’

Excerpt:
‘Asked whether we could see a second series, he said: “I would say never say never. In the fourth episode, the possibility is raised of a third party, but it’s unlikely that we would do another series. Obviously, there’s a key contributor – Julie Mugford, who was [Jeremy Bamber’s] girlfriend at the time and a linchpin in the case. If she called up and said, ‘I’ve seen the series and I want to give you an interview and break my silence,’ then there might be a conversation to be had. The fact is, there’s still work to the case, but it’s very hard to explain.”
https://www.radiotimes.com/tv/documentaries/true-crime/louis-theroux-murder-at-the-farm-bamber-case-newsupdate/

Brett Collins

[Nicholas]

Brett Collins to Kay Page (https://www.dropbox.com/s/cz3kitv4d4xsh5i/Brett%20interview.pdf?dl=0)

’They were kind of part-time whenever he wanted sex* I gathered, she wasn’t, she hadn’t moved in. I don’t think he wanted her to move in because there were other girls that were coming and going

The lady that came with me and we found the lawyer for Jeremy. What turned out was that her younger sister was having an affair at the same time with Jeremy and she’s the girl that was in London with us at his sisters flat when she’d died and been buried. She answered the phone one day and it was Julie ringing to talk to him and his mistress answered   the phone and that’s what set the whole thing off

About two weeks after this happening, the murders, she was about to get married to some guy she was engaged to but all that time she’d been having an affair with Jeremy. But they wanted to keep it from the press. So nobody actually knows this until now.

I knew her through Jeremy and I knew her younger sister because she came and stayed with us in London in the townhouse.

She posed as Jeremy’s sort of other girlfriend but it wasn’t her at all it was her younger sister and they all went to ground just so they wouldn’t bring any heat on the sister that who was getting married’

Was Brett Collins referring to the sisters going ‘to ground’ prior to the murders?

[Nicholas]

’Louis Theroux says there’s “more to” Bamber family case in Murder at the Farm’

Excerpt:
‘Asked whether we could see a second series, he said: “I would say never say never. In the fourth episode, the possibility is raised of a third party, but it’s unlikely that we would do another series. Obviously, there’s a key contributor – Julie Mugford, who was [Jeremy Bamber’s] girlfriend at the time and a linchpin in the case. If she called up and said, ‘I’ve seen the series and I want to give you an interview and break my silence,’ then there might be a conversation to be had. The fact is, there’s still work to the case, but it’s very hard to explain.”
https://www.radiotimes.com/tv/documentaries/true-crime/louis-theroux-murder-at-the-farm-bamber-case-newsupdate/

According to Brett Collins Bamber had several girlfriends ‘at the time’

Brett Collins to Kay Page ⬇️

‘Erm way before I ever met his girlfriend - his girlfriend and he weren’t what you’d call monogamous friendship he had several girls at the same time that all thought that they err were his girlfriend 

[Nicholas]

Based on Brett Collins disclosures made via Kay Pages podcast earlier this year (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T2IWwUJXZ8g) not only did he lie to police about having had a sexual relationship with Bamber ⬇️

Brett Collins to Kay Page (2021)
‘I first met him in New Zealand. I was renting a flat below my house to an air steward who (something) in New Zealand and they both met in Hong Kong.
Jeremy was coming to New Zealand with a diving course and they seemed to get on over a few days. So he invited Jeremy to stay in the flat, which I owned because he was doing international flights which meant he was going to be away for a few weeks. So I met Jeremy when he arrived in Auckland and I let him stay in my flat for about a month.
‘We did get on very well.. Jeremy actually bisexual and he could swing both ways depending on what mood he was in.
Originally there was more to our friendship when I first met him because I was bisexual also
https://www.dropbox.com/s/cz3kitv4d4xsh5i/Brett%20interview.pdf?dl=0

It seems he’s also made the suggestion both Virginia and Angela Greaves were Bamber’s girlfriends around the time - although it’s not clear when these relationships began

[2002] EWCA Crim 2912
113. On Tuesday 3 September the couple met again in London at the flat which had belonged to Sheila Caffell. Again Miss Mugford raised the question of their relationship and his part in the killing. During their conversation the appellant received a telephone call from an ex-girlfriend and Miss Mugford heard him asking her out. She became angry and threw an ornament box at a mirror and then slapped the appellant. He became very angry and twisted her arm up behind her back. Four days later, she went to the police.

What do Virginia and Angela Greaves police witness statements say exactly?

Was the younger sister, Virginia Greaves, due to get married or was Brett Collins referring to the time he first came over to the UK in June 1985 - a few weeks before Angela Greaves married in July 1985 ⬇️

Yup. I've managed to find a more detailed marriage certificate and she married in July 1985. So she was married at the time.

Bambers campaign team appear to claim Virginia Greaves was Bamber’s current girlfriend by ‘Wednesday 4 September 1985’ as they state on their website ‘On returning to Sheila’s apartment, Jeremy received a telephone call from another girl he’d been seeing called Virginia Greaves’ (https://www.jeremy-bamber.co.uk/julie-mugford-volunteer-witness)

If Virginia Greaves and Bamber were in a relationship on 3rd September 1985 why did the Court of Appeal refer to her as ‘an ex-girlfriend’ ?

How and why did the Court of Appeal judges seemingly confuse Bamber’s then current girlfriend Virginia Greaves as ‘an ex girlfriend’ ?

And are Mindhouse TV saving this for a possible second series as none of the above was mentioned in their first 4 part series.

Julie Mugford was as usual portrayed as Bamber’s girlfriend or ex girlfriend, which meant the true narrative at the time -leading up to and the following the murders - wasn’t accurately depicted

Could this be what Louis Theroux meant when he stated there was ‘more to it’

‘There’s definitely more to it’ (RadioTimes, 26th Sept 2021)

[Nicholas]

The CT has also stated David Napley* was apparently Anji (& Virginia ?) Greaves godfather

’During this time Anji Greaves, the sister of Virginia - Jeremy’s girlfriend at the time - told him she would ask her godfather Sir David Napley* of Kingsley Napley solicitors if he would be able to help with Jeremy’s defence case…’

(The above can be heard here at around 14:40 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ImwbQwGiKbc)

’Jeremy wanted Sir David Napley, the best-known solicitor in London, to defend him. Napley’s reputation for taking on tough defences was as imposing as his gold-coloured Rolls-Royce. (Jeremy approached the seventy-old Sir David through his new girlfriend, Anji Greaves, sister of Virginia.) Sir David couldn’t personally take the case and introduced one of his partners, a young solicitor called Paul Terzeon. News that Napley’s firm had agreed to handle Jeremy’s case signalled to all that the trial would be even more sensational than first suspected.

http://youknowwhokilledyoudontyou.blogspot.com/2011/02/innocent-man-part-11.html

[Angelo222]

Based on Brett Collins disclosures made via Kay Pages podcast earlier this year (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T2IWwUJXZ8g) not only did he lie to police about having had a sexual relationship with Bamber ⬇️

It seems he’s also made the suggestion both Virginia and Angela Greaves were Bamber’s girlfriends around the time - although it’s not clear when these relationships began

What do Virginia and Angela Greaves police witness statements say exactly?

Was the younger sister, Virginia Greaves, due to get married or was Brett Collins referring to the time he first came over to the UK in June 1985 - a few weeks before Angela Greaves married in July 1985 ⬇️

Bambers campaign team appear to claim Virginia Greaves was Bamber’s current girlfriend by ‘Wednesday 4 September 1985’ as they state on their website ‘On returning to Sheila’s apartment, Jeremy received a telephone call from another girl he’d been seeing called Virginia Greaves’ (https://www.jeremy-bamber.co.uk/julie-mugford-volunteer-witness)

If Virginia Greaves and Bamber were in a relationship on 3rd September 1985 why did the Court of Appeal refer to her as ‘an ex-girlfriend’ ?

How and why did the Court of Appeal judges seemingly confuse Bamber’s then current girlfriend Virginia Greaves as ‘an ex girlfriend’ ?

And are Mindhouse TV saving this for a possible second series as none of the above was mentioned in their first 4 part series.

Julie Mugford was as usual portrayed as Bamber’s girlfriend or ex girlfriend, which meant the true narrative at the time -leading up to and the following the murders - wasn’t accurately depicted

Could this be what Louis Theroux meant when he stated there was ‘more to it’

‘There’s definitely more to it’ (RadioTimes, 26th Sept 2021)

Most definitely there was more to it, Jeremy Bamber wasn't the only one with inside knowledge of what was going to go down.

[Nicholas]

Most definitely there was more to it, Jeremy Bamber wasn't the only one with inside knowledge of what was going to go down.

Brett Collins interview via Kay Page can be listened to here https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T2IWwUJXZ8g

He makes several references to Anji (Angela) and Virginia Greaves but it’s not clear what time periods he’s referring to when he makes the claims he does because he seems to mix his references up and it’s not clear whether this is intentional or unintentional

Brett Collins to Kay Page (https://www.dropbox.com/s/cz3kitv4d4xsh5i/Brett%20interview.pdf?dl=0)

’About two weeks after this happening, the murders, she was about to get married to some guy she was engaged to but all that time she’d been having an affair with Jeremy. But they wanted to keep it from the press. So nobody actually knows this until now.

According to Kay Page only Angela Greaves married in July 1985 - although it is possible if Virginia was due to marry - the wedding could have been called off

Was Anji Grewves having ‘an affair’ with Bamber as early as June/July 1985 or earlier?

Wouldn’t she be the sister who was ‘engaged’ to be married?

[Nicholas]

Most definitely there was more to it, Jeremy Bamber wasn't the only one with inside knowledge of what was going to go down.

I’d be interested to know when exactly Brett Collins was made aware of the supposed ‘£25-35k’ donations June Bamber was making each year to the church ?