The Bambers: Murder at the farm - Sky Crime documentary

[Myster]

Please Lord, Let this be the last we hear or read of any imaginary phone call that Nevill Bamber made to the police, AMEN.

Transcript of former PC, Michael West's appearance on the Mindhouse series, Episode 4 (around 30:50 mins in)...

Thirty years is a good time to come round and say -"That's not what happened".   The phone call from Jeremy to me has always been a matter of interest to others.

This is the log of my phone call that I received from Jeremy, timed 03.36.  (see attachments)

I'm the receiver 1990 - that was my Collar number.  I've written - Father phoned Age 62 - "Please come over, your sister has gone crazy and has the gun" - the phone went dead.

So if you then look at the log that Malcolm Bonnett started... the sender he's recorded as CD, in brackets 1990.  So the person who spoke to Malcolm Bonnett is myself.  So all of the information on there refers to what I have said to Malcolm Bonnett. He's receiving it third hand and has transposed it third hand.  Malcolm Bonnett recorded the time that I spoke to him at 03.26. Much is made that this referred to a phone call that Nevill Bamber made, but nowhere on there does that say Nevill Bamber, and of course if I'd rung Malcolm Bonnett ten minutes after he'd had a phone call from Nevill Bamber, you tend to think the first words out of his mouth would be - "That's a coincidence, Mick... I've just had a phone call from Nevill Bamber" - Nothing of the sort.

There was an error over the time... I looked at a clock.  There was no time stamp on a computer that there would be today.  Some of the errors were just human nature.  It's risible in my opinion to think that at any stage I was part of a conspiracy.  I was a young police officer, but that's all it was... a simple error made by a young police constable at half past three in an uneventful, up until then, night shift.

[Nicholas]

Brett pulling a sum out of the ether, OR Brett repeating what JB might have told him?...............as did Julie.

Brett Collins waited 36 years to repeat what Bamber told him - or al least he has done to the media and people like Kay

I wonder what he told people like his friends and brothers for example

[Nicholas]

He said Dollars (NZ presumably).  £25,000 = 12,740 NZ$...

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=25000+new+zealand+dollars+to+pounds

My mistake Brett Collins said 25-35,000 dollars

Brett Collins talks about the alleged donations to the church when referring to his stay in he UK prior to the murders

Around 8:16 here https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T2IWwUJXZ8g

[Nicholas]

Still can't spell... poor lad.

Is there a copy of Brett Collins witness statement on the forum?

[Myster]

Is there a copy of Brett Collins witness statement on the forum?

Here, although not sure if there was a previous set... http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=12244.0

[Nicholas]

Brett Collins waited 36 years to repeat what Bamber told him - or al least he has done to the media and people like Kay

Why didn’t Brett Collins give all this information to the police back in 1985 ?

[Nicholas]

Here, although not sure if there was a previous set... http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=12244.0

So he had made 2 visits to Amsterdam

Where’s ‘Hawawi’ ?

And Brett Collins did tell the police Bamber had told him prior to him committing mass murder his mother was giving money to the church

He also tells police he left a message, when he was in Greece after seeing the news on the front page of a newspaper - presumably on an answering machine, to say he was ‘coming over’ (To England)

[Myster]

So he had made 2 visits to Amsterdam

Where’s ‘Hawawi’ ?

And Brett Collins did tell the police Bamber had told him prior to him committing mass murder his mother was giving money to the church

Hawaii, obviously misspelt.

[Nicholas]

Hawaii, obviously misspelt.

What’s with the story of going from Amsterdam to Groningen ?

[Nicholas]

Here, although not sure if there was a previous set... http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=12244.0

Is that it?

Are there other statements made by Brett Collins?

There’s no mention of Virginia or Anji Greaves ?

Roger Wilkes states in his book Blood Relations (Chapter eighteen)

’WHILE JEREMY BAMBER was giving an account of himself, the police were also talking to two other men about their role in the events leading up to the massacre at White House Farm. The first was Brett Collins, who had been arrested along with Jeremy and driven to Chelmsford. In his statement Collins said he and Jeremy had first met in Auckland in the autumn of 1981 when he had been introduced by a mutual friend. Jeremy had stayed at Collins’s house for about three months before moving on to Australia. The two had next met in June 1985 when Collins flew to London from Hawaii. Jeremy drove Collins up to Goldhanger where they had spent part of the summer. Brett Collins said he found Jeremy’s parents pleasant enough, but considered Nevill Bamber ‘a bit reserved and standoffish’ and had been told that June Bamber had been mentally disturbed. He never met Sheila, but had come to know Julie Mugford quite well. ‘They seemed to be close,’ he reported, but ‘more on Julie’s side than on Jeremy’s. He seemed to want more of a friendship but she was obviously thinking of marriage.’
Collins added that Jeremy had been two-timing Julie by going out with other women. Brett Collins explained that he had flown to the Greek island of Mykonos for a holiday on 20 July. Seeing the White House Farm murders reported in the English newspapers in early August, he had caught the first available flight back to London ‘specifically to be with Jeremy and to help out’. Over lunch on his first day back, Brett Collins found Jeremy ‘vacant and not seeming like the person I left a month ago’. Collins claimed to have avoided the subject of the murders, saying he didn’t want to push Jeremy on the subject. Julie filled him in on the details. But as the weeks passed, Collins had been emboldened to discuss with Jeremy the subject of his inheritance. According to Brett Collins, Jeremy expected to get his mother’s share of the Osea Road Caravan Site, which would give him a 50 per cent stake in it. Some of the land at White House Farm was owned – rather than tenanted – by the family, and this would be left to him. So would some shares in the house in Guildford formerly owned by Nevill Bamber’s mother. The police questioned Brett Collins about Bamber’s behaviour on the day of his parents’ funeral. Collins recalled that in the morning, Jeremy had been in reasonably good spirits, mainly because he was surrounded by his friends. By way of a joke, Collins himself suggested that Jeremy coat his face with white powder to make it look as if he had been grieving for weeks. This was purely a joke, Collins insisted. In the days leading up to the funeral, Jeremy had been ‘very upset, shocked and cold to us all’. His friends had advised him to look to the future and to put the tragedy behind him. Brett Collins himself was eliminated as a suspect after he gave police full details of his holiday itinerary.

When did Brett Collins tell Essex police about Bamber ‘two-timing Julie by going out with other women’ ?

[Nicholas]

Why didn’t Brett Collins give all this information to the police back in 1985 ?

The police said to Brett Collins

Q: My info is that whilst in N.Z. he was stealing and using drugs

Bretts reply

A:  Not whilst in my home

[Myster]

Is that it?

Are there other statements made by Brett Collins?

Possibly, but not here... probably secreted in the Barnsley Burglar's dilapidated shed.

[Nicholas]

Possibly, but not here... probably secreted in the Barnsley Burglar's dilapidated shed.

The executioner, child killer and sexual predators supporters ‘controlling’ what is and isn’t in the public domain 🙄

And their silence on Virginia and Anji (Angela) Greaves and the girl from the Chequers public house is deafening

[Nicholas]

What’s with the story of going from Amsterdam to Groningen ?

Still can’t work out when Brett Collins was in Hawaii ?

Nor when he was in Amsterdam - twice

I’m aware of the one trip which Julie also went on but when was the other?

[Nicholas]

Excerpt from Roger Wilkes book Blood Relations

‘Downstairs in his cell, Jeremy Bamber was keeping an iron grip on his emotions. One observer found him ‘disconcertingly composed’. He was discussing what he would do when he was released the following day. He was bandying figures for which he planned to sell his story to the newspapers – somewhat unattractive behaviour, in the opinion of one of his legal team. A group of them sat with Jeremy, trying to buoy up his spirits but feeling increasingly uncomfortable about his obsession with a newspaper deal. The best offer he’d had, he said, was £40,000. Couldn’t they get him a better offer than that? After all, he was pointing out, if he was convicted, Julie had been promised £15,000 for her story. She was already ensconced at the Chelsea Holiday Inn in Sloane Street, closeted with two reporters from the News of the World. When Mr Justice Drake arrived at the court on what turned out to be the last day of the trial, his clerk handed him a note from the jury foreman: