Mark Williams-Thomas making new three part crime series for Ch5.

[Mr Gray]

There has to be evidence of a crime committed before you can be made an arguido now, but not when the McCanns were made arguidos, however it seems that some people think that unless your surname is McCann anyone made an arguido in this case is bound to be innocent.

It's finally dawned on gunit and other sceptics that absence of evidence is evidence of innocence.  The archiving report released the arguido status and the case was shelved due to lack of evidence.  So as Duarte claimed the archiving report was evidence of innocence.. The SC got it wrong

[Vertigo Swirl]

I’m watching this programme now.  So far the thing that puzzles me is - the number that called the number purporting to br CB’s belonged to a paedophile based on the search history that MWT’s man uncovered.  Well isn’t that a bit of a coincidence?!

[Vertigo Swirl]

Another thought that occurred to me.  They have video images of CB involved in child abuse of unidentified victims but despite such concrete evidence he has not been charged with any crimes depicted in those videos.  So the fact that he hasn’t been charged in connection with Madeleine’s murder does not mean to say that there is not concrete evidence that could be used in a case against him when the time comes.

[Wonderfulspam]

I’m watching this programme now.  So far the thing that puzzles me is - the number that called the number purporting to br CB’s belonged to a paedophile based on the search history that MWT’s man uncovered. Well isn’t that a bit of a coincidence?!

It could well be. There was no flurry of phone activity between the watcher, the lifter & the getaway driver at any point. If this was an organised pre-planned abduction to order, wouldn't you expect to see that?
Someone had to have warned Brueckner that Gerry was coming, enabling him to hide in time while the 9pm check was going on. Maybe they used radios or something.

[G-Unit]

It's finally dawned on gunit and other sceptics that absence of evidence is evidence of innocence.  The archiving report released the arguido status and the case was shelved due to lack of evidence.  So as Duarte claimed the archiving report was evidence of innocence.. The SC got it wrong

That's a fallacy;

"the absence of evidence fallacy occurs when someone uses a lack of evidence to try to “prove” something. Of course, the problem with this line of reasoning is that a lack of evidence is just that: a lack. You can’t use it to conclude anything; you could only conclude that we still don’t know about that thing.
https://blog.blueprintprep.com/lsat/flawctober-the-absence-of-evidence-fallacy/

[Vertigo Swirl]

One thing is for sure - there were a distinct lack of bombshells in the programme and MWT’s case that Brückner is innocent was IMO even less convincing than HCW’s case that he dunnit.

[Wonderfulspam]

He could have snuck in to 5a, abducted Maddie, taken her somewhere nearby, done his deed & then stuck around the general vicinity of the southern Algarve for the best part a week after, while the place was crawling with pigs.
Maybe no one saw him snatching her, driving his campervan or lurking close to the apartment at any point, so why not chance it? He does seem like a bit of a thrill seeker.

[sadie]

It could well be. There was no flurry of phone activity between the watcher, the lifter & the getaway driver at any point. If this was an organised pre-planned abduction to order, wouldn't you expect to see that?
Someone had to have warned Brueckner that Gerry was coming, enabling him to hide in time while the 9pm check was going on. Maybe they used radios or something.

Nah, not in my opinion.  No phone used; too dangerous cos could have been traced back.  Just a cigarette lighter or even drawing on a fag so that it lights up would do it.   That would raise no eyebrows if seen.

I think that you have been looking at "sadies Theory", in which case you have the wrong participants.

My group was

• a watcher who was on the balcony opposite with very special views in all directions and some fags.   
  He was also the getaway driver.

• A lifter who had to be able to get into the building and be cool as he did it.  In other words an experienced burglar who either was capable of climbing through that narrow window without leaving marks, or using a key either borrowed (supplied by an OC staff member) or a copy easily manufactured using a simple toy soldier lead casting kit

• Tannerman or Bundleman

[Myster]

A programme repeat complete with irritating adverts.  Plenty of time to watch at leisure... it's there until 2027...

https://www.channel5.com/show/madeleine-mccann-the-case-against-christian-b

[Vertigo Swirl]

A programme repeat complete with irritating adverts.  Plenty of time to watch at leisure... it's there until 2027...

https://www.channel5.com/show/madeleine-mccann-the-case-against-christian-b

I'm wondering if all the real bombshell revelations were left on the cutting room floor, after all, wasn't this supposed to be a 3 part 3 hour plus series?

[Myster]

I'm wondering if all the real bombshell revelations were left on the cutting room floor, after all, wasn't this supposed to be a 3 part 3 hour plus series?

Only one 90 minute episode now it seems, so the scissors must have been burning white hot with overuse.

The only new revelation to me was at the beginning when a Brighton cyber security analyst? discovered that the 683 caller to Brueckner's 680 number had accessed paedophile websites on his phone. If I'm reading that correctly?

[Vertigo Swirl]

Only one 90 minute episode now it seems, so the scissors must have been burning white hot with overuse.

The only new revelation to me was at the beginning when a Brighton cyber security analyst? discovered that the 683 caller to Brueckner's 680 number had accessed paedophile websites on his phone. If I'm reading that correctly?

Yes, I mentioned that above.  Now what are the chances of that eh?  That the caller to the phone allegedly belonging to a rapist paedophile was another paedophile?  Strange that MWT didn't ask himself the same question.

[G-Unit]

Only one 90 minute episode now it seems, so the scissors must have been burning white hot with overuse.

The only new revelation to me was at the beginning when a Brighton cyber security analyst? discovered that the 683 caller to Brueckner's 680 number had accessed paedophile websites on his phone. If I'm reading that correctly?

I thought a different person had that number now than the one who had it in 2007? Hadn't it been reallocated?

[Mr Gray]

That's a fallacy;

"the absence of evidence fallacy occurs when someone uses a lack of evidence to try to “prove” something. Of course, the problem with this line of reasoning is that a lack of evidence is just that: a lack. You can’t use it to conclude anything; you could only conclude that we still don’t know about that thing.
https://blog.blueprintprep.com/lsat/flawctober-the-absence-of-evidence-fallacy/

you are wrong again...no one is talking about proof.....absence of evidence is evidence but not proof.

ive never said absence of evidence proves anything...so the absence of evidence against the mccanns is evidence of their innocence

[Myster]

I thought a different person had that number now than the one who had it in 2007? Hadn't it been reallocated?

The incriminating info might have been hidden away in the phone's memory or elsewhere without the new user's knowledge?