If The Germans Have It Almost In The Bag...

[Wonderfulspam]

The police made it quite clear they thought Colin Stagg was guilty.

If the police believe John Canaan is responsible why don't they charge?

'Insufficient evidence'

So in cases where Insufficient evidence can be gathered & therefore charges cannot be pressed, it's ok to just declare the suspect guilty anyway.

This is the position of the UK & German justice systems, but it's got a whiff of human rights infringement about it if you ask me.

[Vertigo Swirl]

It doesn't matter what they 'believe'.

John Canaan is innocent.

Just saying Brukner isn't the only vile criminal rotting in prison who has been publicly accused of other crimes by the authorities.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Shall we just do away with defence counsel then?

What's that got to do with what I wrote?

[Vertigo Swirl]

The police made it quite clear they thought Colin Stagg was guilty.

If the police believe John Canaan is responsible why don't they charge?

Insufficient evidence, I would have thought that was obvious.

[Wonderfulspam]

Just saying Brukner isn't the only vile criminal rotting in prison who has been publicly accused of other crimes by the authorities.

Free John Canaan.

He's eligible for parole next year.

[Vertigo Swirl]

'Insufficient evidence'

So in cases where Insufficient evidence can be gathered & therefore charges cannot be pressed, it's ok to just declare the suspect guilty anyway.

This is the position of the UK & German justice systems, but it's got a whiff of human rights infringement about it if you ask me.

But you have absolutely no problem with publicly declaring the McCanns guilty, so you're a bit of a hypocrite aren't you?

[Wonderfulspam]

 

But you have absolutely no problem with publicly declaring the McCanns guilty, so you're a bit of a hypocrite aren't you?

I'm not the police.

[Wonderfulspam]

Besides, I have concrete evidence against the McCanns.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Besides, I have concrete evidence against the McCanns.

The McCanns are innocent.

[jassi]

Besides, I have concrete evidence against the McCanns.

Surplus to requirement as they are already serving a life sentence.

[Brietta]

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Amazing that there is an expectation that confidential information in an active police investigation should be in the public domain.

I don't think there is such an expectation. People are simply pointing out that the evidence is unknown, so those who are convinced the Germans have sufficient evidence are just believing what they are being told rather than on what they know is true (imo).

My post was in response to a member who gives the appearance of thinking circumstantial evidence is "weak": it is not and to label it "weak" demonstrates a total misunderstanding of what evidence actually is.
Definition of circumstantial evidence
: evidence that tends to prove a fact by proving other events or circumstances which afford a basis for a reasonable inference of the occurrence of the fact at issue
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/circumstantial%20evidence
 
If the German investigators have intimated in effect that they have sufficient evidence to lay charges but it doesn't suit them to do so at this moment in time and give perfectly valid reasons for that stance ~ why on earth do you suggest that isn't true?

[Vertigo Swirl]

Free John Canaan.

He's eligible for parole next year.

he won't get it.  This is a man who brutally raped a woman at knifepoint in front of her own mother and baby (who he threatened to knife to death).  He also was found guilty of
Raping Sharon Major in December 1980
Attempting to commit b....ry on Major on the same date
Making an indecent assault on Major on the same date
Causing grievous bodily harm to Major on the same date
Raping Donna Tucker on 6 October 1986
Committing b....ry on Tucker on the same date
Indecently assaulting Tucker on the same date
Abducting Tucker on the same date with the intention of raping her
Attempting to abduct Julia Holman on 7 October 1987 with the intention of raping her
Stealing a car that belonged to Shirley Banks in October 1987
Abducting Shirley Banks on 8 October 1987 with the intent of raping her
Murdering Shirley Banks in October 1987
Assaulting Carmel Clearly with the intention to rob on 29 October 1987
Detaining Clearly against her will on the same date with the intention of raping her

I know when you call for him to be freed you are only doing so to troll and for your own amusement but it's worth bearing in mind that real people and their families have suffered immeasurably as a result of this man's actions.
The police have very good reason for believing Canaan committed other rapes and murders - sadly it is not always possible to prove it. 

[Wonderfulspam]

he won't get it.  This is a man who brutally raped a woman at knifepoint in front of her own mother and baby (who he threatened to knife to death).  He also was found guilty of
Raping Sharon Major in December 1980
Attempting to commit b....ry on Major on the same date
Making an indecent assault on Major on the same date
Causing grievous bodily harm to Major on the same date
Raping Donna Tucker on 6 October 1986
Committing b....ry on Tucker on the same date
Indecently assaulting Tucker on the same date
Abducting Tucker on the same date with the intention of raping her
Attempting to abduct Julia Holman on 7 October 1987 with the intention of raping her
Stealing a car that belonged to Shirley Banks in October 1987
Abducting Shirley Banks on 8 October 1987 with the intent of raping her
Murdering Shirley Banks in October 1987
Assaulting Carmel Clearly with the intention to rob on 29 October 1987
Detaining Clearly against her will on the same date with the intention of raping her

I know when you call for him to be freed you are only doing so to troll and for your own amusement but it's worth bearing in mind that real people and their families have suffered immeasurably as a result of this man's actions.
The police have very good reason for believing Canaan committed other rapes and murders - sadly it is not always possible to prove it.

Well he's served his allotted sentence & said he's sorry so I don't see why he shouldn't be released.
If they wanted to keep him in prison indefinitely they should have given him a whole life tariff.
They didn't, & that's their problem.
He should be released.

[Brietta]

It's a matter of what is most likely... And I think it's most likely that what Wolters is saying is true. I think you doubt him because what he says proves almost everything you believe is wrong

The German investigation is forcing everyone to reassess the available evidence.  For those who follow and promulgate CMOMM theories I think it may be coming as a bit of a shock.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Well he's served his allotted sentence & said he's sorry so I don't see why he shouldn't be released.
If they wanted to keep him in prison indefinitely they should have given him a whole life tariff.
They didn't, & that's their problem.
He should be released.

It's not "their" problem, it's "our" problem.  You may not view the man as any threat to you (and why would you?) but would you be OK with him going to live next door to your sister, your mother, your imaginary daughter?  But anyway, we're getting off the subject.  The police think he killed Suzy Lamplugh and have said so publicly, the tragedy is he will probably never face justice for it and could be out soon raping and murdering again (though I doubt it).