If The Germans Have It Almost In The Bag...

[barrier]

How much as Wolters played to the world stage and how much to the Germans which would influence them ?

[jassi]

I would expect judges to be able to distinguish between fact and fiction.

[Eleanor]

It doesn't matter. The challenge will be prior to any trial and probably subsequently all the way through the process.

So his Defence will label The Judges biased and not fit for purpose.

Good luck with that one.

[Uncle Jr]

So his Defence will label The Judges biased and not fit for purpose.

Good luck with that one.

No, nothing to do with the judges, it's everything to do with the process. It doesn't even matter if he did it and what evidence they may have. It would be a lot easier to establish with a jury trial, granted, but I expect a legal challenge the same minute as the charges are filed.

[G-Unit]

I'm interested in abuse of process, it doesn't matter who it is to me. Everyone counts or no-one counts.
Let's say he gets charged, it would be a dereliction of duty of his defence not to automatically request the charges be dismissed due to a total lack of the chance of a fair trial. In my opinion a fair trial is impossible, you can't put the genie back in the bottle.
His defence should keep going, challenging the process at every turn. It's now not about MM at all, but a circus created by injudicious proclamations from HCW, et al.

Any abuses of judicial processes or human rights should be highlighted and dealt with, no matter who the victim of the abuses is or what they might have done. Criminals should face the full weight of the law, but not by circumventing the proper processes.

[Mr Gray]

So his Defence will label The Judges biased and not fit for purpose.

Good luck with that one.

Wolters has already addressed the question of a fair trial.. Anyone suggesting he won't is questioning the professionalism and integrity of the German judges.
If it was a jury trial as in the UK there might be some grounds to criticise..it all depends on what evidence Wolters has

[Mr Gray]

Any abuses of judicial processes or human rights should be highlighted and dealt with, no matter who the victim of the abuses is or what they might have done. Criminals should face the full weight of the law, but not by circumventing the proper processes.

Any suspect has access to justice at the ECHR.
It's not for you to decide their decision

[Eleanor]

Wolters has already addressed the question of a fair trial.. Anyone suggesting he won't is questioning the professionalism and integrity of the German judges.
If it was a jury trial as in the UK there might be some grounds to criticise..it all depends on what evidence Wolters has

That's what I thought.

The system appears to be entirely different to UK.  Which is possibly the most stupid thing I have ever said.

[Vertigo Swirl]

No, nothing to do with the judges, it's everything to do with the process. It doesn't even matter if he did it and what evidence they may have. It would be a lot easier to establish with a jury trial, granted, but I expect a legal challenge the same minute as the charges are filed.

This is not me being facetious but could you explain exactly on what basis CB would be denied a fair trial if the evidence in court is being assessed by judges?  I mean there are many people here and elsewhere who are not convinced he's involved despite over a year of pronouncements from HCW so what makes it more likely that a judge will be swayed by these announcements and judge unfairly on his case?

[barrier]

Wolters has already addressed the question of a fair trial.. Anyone suggesting he won't is questioning the professionalism and integrity of the German judges.
If it was a jury trial as in the UK there might be some grounds to criticise..it all depends on what evidence Wolters has

Not enough to charge thats for sure, lets just go with it, what can he have ? he's stated no dna, or photo evidence linking CB to the alleged murder, so its entirely circumstantial, with out the two I've mentioned what can he possibly have in the form of concrete evidence ?

[jassi]

Not enough to charge thats for sure, lets just go with it, what can he have ? he's stated no dna, or photo evidence linking CB to the alleged murder, so its entirely circumstantial, with out the two I've mentioned what can he possibly have in the form of concrete evidence ?

I fear we won't be getting an answer anytime soon

[Eleanor]

Not enough to charge thats for sure, lets just go with it, what can he have ? he's stated no dna, or photo evidence linking CB to the alleged murder, so its entirely circumstantial, with out the two I've mentioned what can he possibly have in the form of concrete evidence ?

This appear to depend on what "Concrete" means in German.

[Mr Gray]

Not enough to charge thats for sure, lets just go with it, what can he have ? he's stated no dna, or photo evidence linking CB to the alleged murder, so its entirely circumstantial, with out the two I've mentioned what can he possibly have in the form of concrete evidence ?

It seems he does have enough to charge.
He has not ruled out photo evidence of Maddie's fate..
I don't see him making such a claim unless he has the evidence

[Eleanor]

It seems he does have enough to charge.
He has not ruled out photo evidence of Maddie's fate..
I don't see him making such a claim unless he has the evidence

Not sure about this, but neither am I sure Wolters would do this if he had nothing.

[Mr Gray]

This appear to depend on what "Concrete" means in German.

Enough to make the Germans 100% sure... So same as UK