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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: If The Germans Have It Almost In The Bag...
« Reply #630 on: November 01, 2021, 11:46:58 AM »
If CB's human rights have been breached then what is his lawyer waiting for?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: If The Germans Have It Almost In The Bag...
« Reply #631 on: November 01, 2021, 12:11:01 PM »
If CB's human rights have been breached then what is his lawyer waiting for?

Who is funding his defense anyway?
Does he have a state appointed legal team or is it funded by some free CB campaign?
I wouldn't know, I'm far too busy trying to free Martin Brueckner myself.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: If The Germans Have It Almost In The Bag...
« Reply #632 on: November 01, 2021, 12:18:50 PM »
If CB's human rights have been breached then what is his lawyer waiting for?

His Lawyer can't actually do anything at the moment since no charges have been brought and no evidence  has been provided.  Which seems to be part of German Law.

This is perfectly logical which is so often missing in This Affair when it comes to Internet Posters, who still have the right to anonymity.

Anonymity is a bad one in my opinion, but please yourselves.  I am not anonymous and  never wanted to be.  The choice was always mine.

Meanwhile Posters will go on Posting shite.

Just as matter of interest I have never suffered any fall out from being who I am.

Offline Eleanor

Re: If The Germans Have It Almost In The Bag...
« Reply #633 on: November 01, 2021, 12:20:42 PM »
Who is funding his defense anyway?
Does he have a state appointed legal team or is it funded by some free CB campaign?
I wouldn't know, I'm far too busy trying to free Martin Brueckner myself.

Who is Martin Brueckner?  I have never heard of him.

Offline jassi

Re: If The Germans Have It Almost In The Bag...
« Reply #634 on: November 01, 2021, 12:27:32 PM »
His Lawyer can't actually do anything at the moment since no charges have been brought and no evidence  has been provided.  Which seems to be part of German Law.

This is perfectly logical which is so often missing in This Affair when it comes to Internet Posters, who still have the right to anonymity.

Anonymity is a bad one in my opinion, but please yourselves.  I am not anonymous and  never wanted to be.  The choice was always mine.

Meanwhile Posters will go on Posting shite.

Just as matter of interest I have never suffered any fall out from being who I am.

All well and good but how do we know you are you say you are ?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline G-Unit

Re: If The Germans Have It Almost In The Bag...
« Reply #635 on: November 01, 2021, 01:36:43 PM »
Has he?  Unless you know more about German Law than I think you do.

Has Breuckner been convicted yet?

I am not convinced of Brueckner's guilt and for all I know I might never be.

More to do with human rights law than German law actually. Germans do have to comply with it of course.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: If The Germans Have It Almost In The Bag...
« Reply #636 on: November 01, 2021, 02:01:46 PM »
It's about whether a prosecutor breached a suspect's human rights.

And of course to what extent his human rights have been abused.. If at all.  That would be a decision for the ECHR not a poster on this forum.
Do you really think that if Wolters has this evidence and it's proved he is guilty on overwhelming evidence.. That CB would make an application and what level of damages do you think he would receive.

You don't seem to realise what part the evidence plays. 





Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: If The Germans Have It Almost In The Bag...
« Reply #637 on: November 01, 2021, 02:06:51 PM »
His Lawyer can't actually do anything at the moment since no charges have been brought and no evidence  has been provided.  Which seems to be part of German Law.

This is perfectly logical which is so often missing in This Affair when it comes to Internet Posters, who still have the right to anonymity.

Anonymity is a bad one in my opinion, but please yourselves.  I am not anonymous and  never wanted to be.  The choice was always mine.

Meanwhile Posters will go on Posting shite.

Just as matter of interest I have never suffered any fall out from being who I am.
But we’re being told that his himan rights are being abused NOW therefore if this is a fact then his lawyer should be working on his behalf to sue thr Germans for a breach of his client’s human rights.  If it’s a question of money then I’m sure there are a couple hundred Amaral fans who would gladly chip in a tenner each to get the ball rolling. Maybe Amaral himself could donate all the proceeds of his new (ahem) bestseller to the cause too, after all he’s certain Bruckner is innocent isn’t he?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Eleanor

Re: If The Germans Have It Almost In The Bag...
« Reply #638 on: November 01, 2021, 03:04:35 PM »
More to do with human rights law than German law actually. Germans do have to comply with it of course.

Really.  Could you have a word with them and tell them to hurry up.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: If The Germans Have It Almost In The Bag...
« Reply #639 on: November 01, 2021, 03:11:20 PM »
More to do with human rights law than German law actually. Germans do have to comply with it of course.

This is typical sceptic thinking.. CB is sp precious he doesn't have to do what others have to... Apply to the ECHR and wait 5 years to get his case heard.. He deserves action now.. Why is he so special to you and other sceptics

Offline jassi

Re: If The Germans Have It Almost In The Bag...
« Reply #640 on: November 01, 2021, 03:19:50 PM »
I thought you had to exhaust the domestic court system before applying to the EHCR
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Mr Gray

Re: If The Germans Have It Almost In The Bag...
« Reply #641 on: November 01, 2021, 03:23:56 PM »
I thought you had to exhaust the domestic court system before applying to the EHCR

Of course you do... But gunit wants to do away with the domestic courts and tthe ECHR application ...do away with looking at the evidence and go straight to a verdict in CBs favour.. LOL

Offline Eleanor

Re: If The Germans Have It Almost In The Bag...
« Reply #642 on: November 01, 2021, 03:29:11 PM »
I thought you had to exhaust the domestic court system before applying to the EHCR

You are definitely right about that.

Offline G-Unit

Re: If The Germans Have It Almost In The Bag...
« Reply #643 on: November 01, 2021, 05:54:22 PM »
I thought you had to exhaust the domestic court system before applying to the EHCR

As I expect his lawyers will if they ever reach the court system.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: If The Germans Have It Almost In The Bag...
« Reply #644 on: November 01, 2021, 06:14:24 PM »
As I expect his lawyers will if they ever reach the court system.

I think you are wrong and can't see it happening. If there is overwhelming evidence of CBs guilt... And he is found guilty..I don't see him making an application to the ECHR.
Could you explain what action the ECHR might take in the circumstances... I really don't think you have thought this through properly and dont understand what might happen