An Inept Investigation?

[G-Unit]

I'm not entering into any long winded discussion with you about this.  Just endeavour to exercise a little common sense and who knows it may go some way to make every members posting experience a much pleasanter one.

Whatever. My original claim remains correct; the Germans can't connect CB to the McCann case with forensic evidence.

[Mr Gray]

Whatever. My original claim remains correct; the Germans can't connect CB to the McCann case with forensic evidence.

They dont need to..

[barrier]

They dont need to..

So therefore  Gunit is correct, at last some begrudging accord.

[Mr Gray]

So therefore  Gunit is correct, at last some begrudging accord.

Like many of her posts it's old news... No begrudging necessary

[barrier]

Like many of her posts it's old news... No begrudging necessary

Its noted it'll never come you.

[Mr Gray]

Its noted it'll never come you.

I think those following the case know there's no forensic evidence

[G-Unit]

Like many of her posts it's old news... No begrudging necessary

My original point was that although, as you pointed out, the Germans managed to solve the rape case they were aided by a forensic connection between the criminal and the crime scene.

Although you think they may solve the McCann case, they will, as I pointed out, not have forensic evidence. Nor does their public appeal seem to have been helpful.

Unlike you, I think they have a lot to do. I'm sure they are aware of the difficulties of no body murder trials. I could only find one example in recent years in Germany. The victim was Rudolph Rupp and if you like miscarriage of justice cases it was a prime example. An associated case was the prosecution of a scrap dealer, Ludwig H., who was allegedly threatened at gun point when he refused to sign an interrogation protocol. It seems the Germans are as bad if not worse than the Portuguese when they have a suspect in their sights.
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Todesfall_Rudolf_Rupp

[Mr Gray]

My original point was that although, as you pointed out, the Germans managed to solve the rape case they were aided by a forensic connection between the criminal and the crime scene.

Although you think they may solve the McCann case, they will, as I pointed out, not have forensic evidence. Nor does their public appeal seem to have been helpful.

Unlike you, I think they have a lot to do. I'm sure they are aware of the difficulties of no body murder trials. I could only find one example in recent years in Germany. The victim was Rudolph Rupp and if you like miscarriage of justice cases it was a prime example. An associated case was the prosecution of a scrap dealer, Ludwig H., who was allegedly threatened at gun point when he refused to sign an interrogation protocol. It seems the Germans are as bad if not worse than the Portuguese when they have a suspect in their sights.
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Todesfall_Rudolf_Rupp

A guilty verdict relies on the evidence... Forensic is not necessary. It will be interesting to see what evidence has convinced HCW that CB murdered Maddie

[barrier]

A guilty verdict relies on the evidence... Forensic is not necessary. It will be interesting to see what evidence has convinced HCW that CB murdered Maddie

It'll never see a court room nor the light of day imo.

[G-Unit]

A guilty verdict relies on the evidence... Forensic is not necessary. It will be interesting to see what evidence has convinced HCW that CB murdered Maddie

Are you sure he's been convinced? An assumption is a supposition without proof;

“We assume that the girl is dead,” Braunschweig state prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters said.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-portugal-mccann-idUSKBN23B0RI

“Because there is no forensic evidence there may be a little bit of hope [that she is alive],” the spokesperson for the Braunschweig public prosecutor’s office told the paper.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/madeleine-mccann-update-death-alive-germany-christian-bruckner-a9565441.html

[Mr Gray]

Are you sure he's been convinced? An assumption is a supposition without proof;

“We assume that the girl is dead,” Braunschweig state prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters said.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-portugal-mccann-idUSKBN23B0RI

“Because there is no forensic evidence there may be a little bit of hope [that she is alive],” the spokesperson for the Braunschweig public prosecutor’s office told the paper.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/madeleine-mccann-update-death-alive-germany-christian-bruckner-a9565441.html

Yes I'm sure he's convinced. ...if you listen to everything he has said.  What you have done is takes a couple of phrases out of context.

It totally fits with Rui Pedro... Assumed dead but noo forensic evidence

[jassi]

It's impossible to know what hard evidence, if any, German police have got, but obviously not sufficient to  actually charge and prosecute him or they would have done so.

[Mr Gray]

It's impossible to know what hard evidence, if any, German police have got, but obviously not sufficient to  actually charge and prosecute him or they would have done so.

They could well have enough to charge and prosecute him

[Eleanor]

I don't think The German Police need to do anything much at the moment.  They have got a while or two.

But what is killing me, in a laughable sense, is that never in all of my born days have I seen such an "about face" when it comes to Innocent until Proven Guilty.

Are none of you even remotely ashamed of what you have been doing for the last Fourteen Years?

[Brietta]

Yes I'm sure he's convinced. ...if you listen to everything he has said.  What you have done is takes a couple of phrases out of context.

It totally fits with Rui Pedro... Assumed dead but noo forensic evidence

There is just so much going on in the background of Madeleine's case that I don't think any solution is going to be arrived at any time soon.

Back in 2009 the much derided McCann detectives Met3 were instrumental in uncovering a Spanish paedophile ring which no doubt had long reaching tentacles

13 PEOPLE ARRESTED
Investigation to find Madeleine McCann reveals pedophilic network in Spain
PÚBLICO
January 19, 2009, 11:14
Detectives from the Spanish agency hired by the parents of Madeleine McCann, who disappeared in the Algarve in May 2007, detected a network of pedophilia that was acting on the Internet. Method3 detectives informed authorities of what they found, which led to the arrest of 13 people and the prosecution of ten others across the country, according to spanish daily El Mundo. https://www.publico.pt/2009/01/19/sociedade/noticia/investigacao-para-encontrar-madeleine-mccann-revela-rede-pedofila-em-espanha-1356654

We know that Brueckner was a crime wave in himself which he didn't confine to the Algarve but travelled extensively to indulge.

The Germans have a lot of work to do to catch up with him and check out other cases with which he may be involved many of which might have nothing to do with Madeleine's case.

I too consider that the Germans know what they are doing regarding Madeleine's case and I think they will take it as far as it will go.  Which is almost certainly a lot farther than the PJ took their inquiry (if there was one) into Brueckner's activities back in 2007.