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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: An Inept Investigation?
« Reply #225 on: September 25, 2021, 03:48:02 PM »
Not impossible though? Lending a phone isn't an offence ?
The Loch Ness Monster isn't impossible, however it's also not very likely.  Same with what you're suggesting IMO.  It's implausible and illogical.  IMO.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Mr Gray

Re: An Inept Investigation?
« Reply #226 on: September 25, 2021, 04:28:36 PM »
The press said he said.

I think his lawyer said

Offline Snowgirl

Re: An Inept Investigation?
« Reply #227 on: September 25, 2021, 04:41:25 PM »
The Loch Ness Monster isn't impossible, however it's also not very likely.  Same with what you're suggesting IMO.  It's implausible and illogical.  IMO.
No problem with you having your opinion if you allow me to have mine  however implausible you find it . 😊

Offline jassi

Re: An Inept Investigation?
« Reply #228 on: September 25, 2021, 04:56:05 PM »
Oes anyone know how long phone records were kept for back in 2007 ?

google gives a variety of answers
« Last Edit: September 25, 2021, 05:02:54 PM by jassi »
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: An Inept Investigation?
« Reply #229 on: September 25, 2021, 05:14:26 PM »
No problem with you having your opinion if you allow me to have mine  however implausible you find it . 😊
I’m not standing in your way of having an opinion. 
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: An Inept Investigation?
« Reply #230 on: September 25, 2021, 05:15:08 PM »
Oes anyone know how long phone records were kept for back in 2007 ?

google gives a variety of answers
Long enough for them to be of use to the Germans in this case it would seem.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline barrier

Re: An Inept Investigation?
« Reply #231 on: September 25, 2021, 05:18:09 PM »
Long enough for them to be of use to the Germans in this case it would seem.

Yet we're led to believe OG forensically examined all the evidence , but never made a link, or there isn't one.
This is my own private domicile and I shall not be harassed, biatch:Jesse Pinkman Character.

Offline jassi

Re: An Inept Investigation?
« Reply #232 on: September 25, 2021, 05:22:42 PM »
Presumably these are from records collected on a specific date in 2007, so they can't go back and see  other calls that were made by the phones prior to this, or perhaps even since. IE they collected  only calls made from PDL area on the 3rd May.

Would that be right ?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Eleanor

Re: An Inept Investigation?
« Reply #233 on: September 25, 2021, 05:34:05 PM »
Not impossible though? Lending a phone isn't an offence ?

No.  The phone wasn't borrowed.  The call was made by someone else.  Who answered the phone is the question.

Have none of you actually got this yet.  How stupid are you?

We don't know who made The Call or even who answered it, but it is hardly rocket science.

You can all dream up whatever you like but Breuckner answered that phone call.  So he was where they thought he was.

But what that has got to do with anything is neither here nor there.  It proves nothing.

Offline barrier

Re: An Inept Investigation?
« Reply #234 on: September 25, 2021, 05:39:00 PM »
No.  The phone wasn't borrowed.  The call was made by someone else.  Who answered the phone is the question.

Have none of you actually got this yet.  How stupid are you?

We don't know who made The Call or even who answered it, but it is hardly rocket science.

You can all dream up whatever you like but Breuckner answered that phone call.  So he was where they thought he was.

But what that has got to do with anything is neither here nor there.  It proves nothing.



Nope, CB might not have answered, even if he did, could have been a date, all manner of things, like you say it proves nowt.
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Offline jassi

Re: An Inept Investigation?
« Reply #235 on: September 25, 2021, 06:03:19 PM »
I wonder if that was the only activity on his phone that night? Not that it really matters, but it might help to identify where it was at say 10.30 that evening.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

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OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline G-Unit

Re: An Inept Investigation?
« Reply #236 on: September 25, 2021, 06:04:49 PM »
Presumably these are from records collected on a specific date in 2007, so they can't go back and see  other calls that were made by the phones prior to this, or perhaps even since. IE they collected  only calls made from PDL area on the 3rd May.

Would that be right ?

Just three days of records were collected, from the masts covering a certain location;

The telephone operators TMN, Vodaphone and Optimus be asked for the preservation and conservation in digital format (CD or DVD) of all the information relating to MOBILE PHONE TRAFFIC, including roaming calls, with an indication of the mobile phone numbers, date and time of the telephone conversations that took place on 2, 3 and 4th May 2007 with respect to the mobile phones that cover the following geographical locations:

Apartment:

N - 37,088863 // N37º 5' 19,91"
W - 8,730775...// W 8º 43' 50,79"

Tapas Restaurant

N - 37,088378 // N37º 5' 18,16"
W - 8,730979...// W 8º 43' 51,52"

https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MOBILE_PHONE_ANALYSIS.htm
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: An Inept Investigation?
« Reply #237 on: September 25, 2021, 06:11:20 PM »
Yet we're led to believe OG forensically examined all the evidence , but never made a link, or there isn't one.
Why would Operation Grange have known about Brückner or his phone number when they were assessing the phone data?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline jassi

Re: An Inept Investigation?
« Reply #238 on: September 25, 2021, 06:21:08 PM »
How was this phoned identified as belonging to Brueckner ?
Was he foolish enough to use a phone registered in his name ?

Whatever, the release of the two numbers doesn't seem to have achieved anything, other than media publicity about Brueckner, which perhaps was really the purpose.
« Last Edit: September 25, 2021, 06:48:31 PM by jassi »
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Eleanor

Re: An Inept Investigation?
« Reply #239 on: September 25, 2021, 06:58:24 PM »

Ah well you see, no one knew of this in those days.  No one knew that they could be pin pointed.

But Breckner's phone was there in Praia da Luz.  You may make what you like of that.