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Offline jassi

Re: Maddie Basta de Mentiras
« Reply #270 on: October 16, 2021, 09:43:27 AM »
I think this forum should be very grateful to Amaral

After all, without him, where would members direct their regulars doses of vitriol?
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Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: Maddie Basta de Mentiras
« Reply #271 on: October 16, 2021, 09:53:24 AM »
Is he still going on about Calpol?  And people wonder why some think he's an idiot.

If you read the quote from Bri yes he's still "going on about Calpol" (In my opinion some people would use it to aid sleep - if a baby is teething for example). However he wrongly calls it an antihistamine. What I can't believe he is missing is that it is an antihistamine and not the Calpol that would, if it was used, most likely be a plausible explanation for the twins sleeping through all the commotion. One problem for the supporters of the parents is there is no way an abductor could have woken two or three sleeping toddlers, given them each an antihistamine then wait undetected for it to work whilst the 30 minute listening and toilet trips were going on! Also there is no suggestion that the antihistamines found in 5A belonged to a would be abductor!

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Maddie Basta de Mentiras
« Reply #272 on: October 16, 2021, 10:27:00 AM »
Amaral's book? I certainly thought his first one was factual. He presented the evidence and put forward three main theories. It's no secret that he personally believes the strongest theory, in his opinion, is that this is a case of parental child neglect, accidental death and concealment of a corpse. He seems to agree with the suspicion of Kate McCann that the children may have been drugged. In my opinion he is barking behind the wrong sofa when he makes reference to Calpol. A strange error especially so when drugs that actually were antihistamines were found in 5A.
The first one isn't factual.  His whole theory is based on his ignorance of the meaning of the dog alerts. He's an absolute fool imo.. And the evidence supports it

Offline Eleanor

Re: Maddie Basta de Mentiras
« Reply #273 on: October 16, 2021, 10:58:56 AM »

In my opinion Amaral's attitude is that of a 50 odd year old Portuguese Policeman raised and schooled during The Salazar Era when evidence was of no importance.  They picked on a suspect and fitted the crime around what they had decided.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Maddie Basta de Mentiras
« Reply #274 on: October 16, 2021, 11:01:46 AM »
I think this forum should be very grateful to Amaral

After all, without him, where would members direct their regulars doses of vitriol?
No, the people who members should really be grateful to are the McCanns for "abandoning their babies" - wihout them we would never have had the joy of coming across such kind, thoughtful and forgiving individuals such as yourself.
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Offline barrier

Re: Maddie Basta de Mentiras
« Reply #275 on: October 16, 2021, 11:22:37 AM »
They picked on a suspect and fitted the crime around what they had decided.
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Time will judge Wolters in the same vain imo.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Maddie Basta de Mentiras
« Reply #276 on: October 16, 2021, 11:29:40 AM »
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Time will judge Wolters in the same vain imo.

Wolters has got a bit more to go on than Amaral had.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Maddie Basta de Mentiras
« Reply #277 on: October 16, 2021, 11:43:05 AM »
If you read the quote from Bri yes he's still "going on about Calpol" (In my opinion some people would use it to aid sleep - if a baby is teething for example). However he wrongly calls it an antihistamine. What I can't believe he is missing is that it is an antihistamine and not the Calpol that would, if it was used, most likely be a plausible explanation for the twins sleeping through all the commotion. One problem for the supporters of the parents is there is no way an abductor could have woken two or three sleeping toddlers, given them each an antihistamine then wait undetected for it to work whilst the 30 minute listening and toilet trips were going on! Also there is no suggestion that the antihistamines found in 5A belonged to a would be abductor!

Strangely, the parents didn't mention any concerns about sedation in their first statements on 4th May, despite Kate's concerns about the twins, observed by Fiona Payne. On 5th May, however, they asked the UK liaison officers if they could find out if the PJ had found any evidence "that would suggest that the person who took Madeleine had used any substance to facilitate the abduction." https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/STEPHEN_MARKLEY.htm

Perhaps it had only just occured to them that evidence might have been found on 4th, although what type of evidence that could have been is unclear.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Maddie Basta de Mentiras
« Reply #278 on: October 16, 2021, 12:02:53 PM »
Strangely, the parents didn't mention any concerns about sedation in their first statements on 4th May, despite Kate's concerns about the twins, observed by Fiona Payne. On 5th May, however, they asked the UK liaison officers if they could find out if the PJ had found any evidence "that would suggest that the person who took Madeleine had used any substance to facilitate the abduction." https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/STEPHEN_MARKLEY.htm

Perhaps it had only just occured to them that evidence might have been found on 4th, although what type of evidence that could have been is unclear.

kate may well have mentioned sedation but it was not recorded. What seems to have been recorded is answers to specific questions K and G were asked. if you look at the staements parts are almost identical

Offline Brietta

Re: Maddie Basta de Mentiras
« Reply #279 on: October 16, 2021, 01:35:39 PM »
Sloppy to continue to mix up Calpol and Fenergan.

You may think so. 

I think it is inane and a reflection of the stubborn pig headedness which has driven the fourteen+ years of vile vendetta aimed at Madeleine and her family.

In my opinion any criminal cop who goes to the length of writing two books which are essentially the same to excuse the inept investigation he co-ordinated, is in desperation to obscure the truth.
My impression is that he will do anything to derail the German investigation of Brueckner.  It is so important to him that he has broken cover and been caught out in lies in the process - and in the process reveals that the last thing he wants is that the truth of what happened to Madeleine is ever known.

What a worm of a man!
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Eleanor

Re: Maddie Basta de Mentiras
« Reply #280 on: October 16, 2021, 01:40:55 PM »
You may think so. 

I think it is inane and a reflection of the stubborn pig headedness which has driven the fourteen+ years of vile vendetta aimed at Madeleine and her family.

In my opinion any criminal cop who goes to the length of writing two books which are essentially the same to excuse the inept investigation he co-ordinated, is in desperation to obscure the truth.
My impression is that he will do anything to derail the German investigation of Brueckner.  It is so important to him that he has broken cover and been caught out in lies in the process - and in the process reveals that the last thing he wants is that the truth of what happened to Madeleine is ever known.

What a worm of a man!

I've got a nasty suspicion that he's not listening.  There must be a mental health definition for this.

Offline Brietta

Re: Maddie Basta de Mentiras
« Reply #281 on: October 16, 2021, 06:14:54 PM »
I've got a nasty suspicion that he's not listening.  There must be a mental health definition for this.

I don't blame the man for his affliction.  Quite obviously he can't help it which is proved by his obsessions only one of which concerns the ridiculousness that he still seems to be unaware that Calpol is not a sedative - it is an analgesic.

If his supporters are aware of that - perhaps it is way past time for them to inform him of that.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Maddie Basta de Mentiras
« Reply #282 on: October 16, 2021, 06:33:59 PM »
I don't blame the man for his affliction.  Quite obviously he can't help it which is proved by his obsessions only one of which concerns the ridiculousness that he still seems to be unaware that Calpol is not a sedative - it is an analgesic.

If his supporters are aware of that - perhaps it is way past time for them to inform him of that.
Do you really think his supporters care about factual accuracy when it comes to anything he says or writes?  Of course not!  As long as he’s still spouting the same “parents dunnit “ mantra he can do no wrong in their eyes.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Maddie Basta de Mentiras
« Reply #283 on: October 16, 2021, 06:41:57 PM »

Doesn't he have to have evidence?

Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: Maddie Basta de Mentiras
« Reply #284 on: October 16, 2021, 06:44:10 PM »
The first one isn't factual.  His whole theory is based on his ignorance of the meaning of the dog alerts. He's an absolute fool imo.. And the evidence supports it

What do the dog alerts mean to you? Do you believe Eddie was barking at the presence of blood and not cadaverine? Also, you should cut Amaral a bit of slack. Wasn't it some British officers who reportedly told him "we'd have brought people in for less"? In addition he was somewhat misled, imo, with the earliest reports from the FSS.... I believe he got the impression initially that some of the results were more conclusive than the later report.... Remember: Q - "Could this be Madeleine's DNA?"... A - "the short answer is yes".....  ?