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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Maddie Basta de Mentiras
« Reply #45 on: October 08, 2021, 10:06:40 PM »
The book will make money. I’m sure what people think of him will be tempered by that simple fact.

If the McCanns are successful at the ECHR he could find himself back in court.. They could ask the Portuguese to re-open the original case and the SC judgement be re-examined

Offline faithlilly

Re: Maddie Basta de Mentiras
« Reply #46 on: October 08, 2021, 10:11:00 PM »
If the McCanns are successful at the ECHR he could find himself back in court.. They could ask the Portuguese to re-open the original case and the SC judgement be re-examined

Don’t be silly.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Eleanor

Re: Maddie Basta de Mentiras
« Reply #47 on: October 08, 2021, 10:13:33 PM »
If the McCanns are successful at the ECHR he could find himself back in court.. They could ask the Portuguese to re-open the original case and the SC judgement be re-examined

Why would The McCanns want to do that?  What purpose would it serve?

Offline faithlilly

Re: Maddie Basta de Mentiras
« Reply #48 on: October 08, 2021, 10:31:25 PM »
Why would The McCanns want to do that?  What purpose would it serve?

None at all. It would seem that some would be happy for the parents to spend the rest of their life in litigation.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Brietta

Re: Maddie Basta de Mentiras
« Reply #49 on: October 08, 2021, 10:37:43 PM »
Why would The McCanns want to do that?  What purpose would it serve?

I think Kate and Gerry will ignore his nonsense and treat it and him with the utter contempt both deserve.  The important thing at the moment is the German investigation and what results from that.

There was a sexual predator living in Luz and the Policia Judiciaria under Amaral missed him while Amaral concentrated his ineptitude in entirely the wrong direction.

This swansong of a book confirms that. 

I think if his malice had been less he would merely have become a laughing stock.  The lies he has told on Brueckner's behalf change that though and may have made him a person of interest and not the type of interest he so very obviously craves.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Eleanor

Re: Maddie Basta de Mentiras
« Reply #50 on: October 08, 2021, 10:39:55 PM »
None at all. It would seem that some would be happy for the parents to spend the rest of their life in litigation.

I was asking a question of Davel.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Maddie Basta de Mentiras
« Reply #51 on: October 08, 2021, 10:52:15 PM »
Wolters says all that needs to be said about Amaral and his book:

“We are not interested in the views and assessments of a former Portuguese police officer because we assume that he does not have our investigation results and files. It is therefore completely irrelevant to us what Mr Amaral thinks, says and writes. "
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Brietta

Re: Maddie Basta de Mentiras
« Reply #52 on: October 08, 2021, 10:53:21 PM »
EXCLUSIVE: Madeleine McCann prosecutor 100% convinced Christian B abducted and murdered her
Madeleine McCann prosecutors say they have no body and no DNA but other evidence leads to only one conclusion - jailed rapist Christian Brueckner is guilty and could be charged next year

Madeleine went missing aged 3

ByMartin Fricker, in Braunschweig, Germany
21:36, 8 Oct 2021UPDATED21:48, 8 Oct 2021

Investigators are “100% sure” sex offender Christian Brueckner murdered Madeleine McCann.

They have the evidence to charge him and hope the probe will conclude next year.

German prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters said: “We’re confident we have the man who took and killed her.”

Prosecutors investigating paedophile Christian Brueckner on suspicion of murdering Madeleine McCann are certain of his guilt and determined to build the strongest possible case against him.

They believe they have the evidence to charge the 44-year-old and it has “100% convinced” them that he killed her.

And they hope to be able to bring charges next year.

But as Brueckner is already in jail for separate offences the team are taking time to gather as much evidence as possible before bringing it to court.

Speaking exclusively to the Mirror, German prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters said: “It is now possible that we could charge. We have that evidence now.

“But it’s not just about charging him – we want to charge him with the best body of evidence possible.

“When we still have questions, it would be nonsense to charge rather than wait for the answers that could strengthen our position.

“That’s why we said we’ll investigate as long as there are leads or information for us to pursue. I’m not saying that what we have is insufficient now. But he’s in prison, so we don’t have this pressure on us. We have time on our hands.”

However, the prosecutors now admit they have no proof Madeleine is dead – despite authorities in Braunschweig telling the McCanns last year that they had “evidence” she is no longer alive.

Mr Wolters said they have no idea how she died and no DNA or photo evidence linking the German sex offender to the alleged murder. Addressing Madeleine’s parents Kate and Gerry McCann, he said: “We are confident we have the man who took and killed your daughter.”

“All I can do is ask for your patience. I personally think a conclusion will be reached next year. We have no body and no DNA but we have other evidence. Based on the evidence we have, it leads to no other conclusion.

“I can’t tell you on which basis we assume she is dead. But for us, there’s no other possibility. There is no hope she is alive.”

Madeleine vanished from her family’s holiday flat at the Ocean Club resort in Praia da Luz, Portugal, in 2007, days before her fourth birthday. Kate and Gerry of Rothley, Leics, have said they “hang on to the hope, however small, that we will see Madeleine again”.

Evidence being investigated includes a “confession” Brueckner made to a pal and phone analysis showing he was at the Ocean Club when the toddler vanished. Mr Wolters said: “It is circumstantial evidence – we have no scientific evidence. If we had a video of the act or a picture of Madeleine dead with Brueckner on camera, we wouldn’t have had to make a public appeal. But we only have circumstantial evidence.”

Brueckner was living in a camper van close to Praia da Luz when Madeleine disappeared. UK and German police first became aware of him as a suspect in 2017 but only went public with it last June. Senior investigators have spoken to potential key witnesses in Germany and Portugal.

Mr Wolters dismissed as “rubbish” a recent report that the probe will end by Christmas, but said it is likely Brueckner will be charged early next year with other alleged offences in Portugal.

They include the rape of an Irish woman in the Algarve in 2004 and two incidents where he allegedly flashed at youngsters.

Asked if he was happy with the pace of the Madeleine probe, Mr Wolters said: “It could have gone better. Of course we hoped we’d get such good tip-offs that the investigation might have already ended. But the case is progressing.”

He said a “very big number” have been interviewed but the team has yet to find the person Brueckner spoke to on the phone around the time Madeleine went missing. He added: “We’ve found no evidence to clear Mr Brueckner of suspicion. Everything we’ve found fits in the picture. We’re perhaps halfway through.”

Defending the decision not to show the McCanns the evidence that leads prosecutors to believe Madeleine is dead, he said: “If I did ...is very possible that they would then no longer have any hope.”

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/madeleine-mccann-prosecutor-100-convinced-25173564?utm_source=linkCopy&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Eleanor

Re: Maddie Basta de Mentiras
« Reply #53 on: October 08, 2021, 10:54:54 PM »
I think Kate and Gerry will ignore his nonsense and treat it and him with the utter contempt both deserve.  The important thing at the moment is the German investigation and what results from that.

There was a sexual predator living in Luz and the Policia Judiciaria under Amaral missed him while Amaral concentrated his ineptitude in entirely the wrong direction.

This swansong of a book confirms that. 

I think if his malice had been less he would merely have become a laughing stock.  The lies he has told on Brueckner's behalf change that though and may have made him a person of interest and not the type of interest he so very obviously craves.

Have made Amaral a person of interest, I would say.  Nothing May about it.  Although my own suspicions predate this latest nonsense.

Has anyone looked at his Phone Records or those of Cristavao?  These might be quite interesting.

Offline faithlilly

Re: Maddie Basta de Mentiras
« Reply #54 on: October 09, 2021, 12:42:46 AM »
I think Kate and Gerry will ignore his nonsense and treat it and him with the utter contempt both deserve.  The important thing at the moment is the German investigation and what results from that.

There was a sexual predator living in Luz and the Policia Judiciaria under Amaral missed him while Amaral concentrated his ineptitude in entirely the wrong direction.

This swansong of a book confirms that. 

I think if his malice had been less he would merely have become a laughing stock.  The lies he has told on Brueckner's behalf change that though and may have made him a person of interest and not the type of interest he so very obviously craves.

Besides if Bruckner is charged and found guilty the money in the fund will be used to  ‘ pursue such purposes in similar cases arising in the United Kingdom, Portugal or elsewhere.’ So there will be no money for litigation.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline faithlilly

Re: Maddie Basta de Mentiras
« Reply #55 on: October 09, 2021, 12:48:11 AM »
EXCLUSIVE: Madeleine McCann prosecutor 100% convinced Christian B abducted and murdered her
Madeleine McCann prosecutors say they have no body and no DNA but other evidence leads to only one conclusion - jailed rapist Christian Brueckner is guilty and could be charged next year

Madeleine went missing aged 3

ByMartin Fricker, in Braunschweig, Germany
21:36, 8 Oct 2021UPDATED21:48, 8 Oct 2021

Investigators are “100% sure” sex offender Christian Brueckner murdered Madeleine McCann.

They have the evidence to charge him and hope the probe will conclude next year.

German prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters said: “We’re confident we have the man who took and killed her.”

Prosecutors investigating paedophile Christian Brueckner on suspicion of murdering Madeleine McCann are certain of his guilt and determined to build the strongest possible case against him.

They believe they have the evidence to charge the 44-year-old and it has “100% convinced” them that he killed her.

And they hope to be able to bring charges next year.

But as Brueckner is already in jail for separate offences the team are taking time to gather as much evidence as possible before bringing it to court.

Speaking exclusively to the Mirror, German prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters said: “It is now possible that we could charge. We have that evidence now.

“But it’s not just about charging him – we want to charge him with the best body of evidence possible.

“When we still have questions, it would be nonsense to charge rather than wait for the answers that could strengthen our position.

“That’s why we said we’ll investigate as long as there are leads or information for us to pursue. I’m not saying that what we have is insufficient now. But he’s in prison, so we don’t have this pressure on us. We have time on our hands.”

However, the prosecutors now admit they have no proof Madeleine is dead – despite authorities in Braunschweig telling the McCanns last year that they had “evidence” she is no longer alive.

Mr Wolters said they have no idea how she died and no DNA or photo evidence linking the German sex offender to the alleged murder. Addressing Madeleine’s parents Kate and Gerry McCann, he said: “We are confident we have the man who took and killed your daughter.”

“All I can do is ask for your patience. I personally think a conclusion will be reached next year. We have no body and no DNA but we have other evidence. Based on the evidence we have, it leads to no other conclusion.

“I can’t tell you on which basis we assume she is dead. But for us, there’s no other possibility. There is no hope she is alive.”

Madeleine vanished from her family’s holiday flat at the Ocean Club resort in Praia da Luz, Portugal, in 2007, days before her fourth birthday. Kate and Gerry of Rothley, Leics, have said they “hang on to the hope, however small, that we will see Madeleine again”.

Evidence being investigated includes a “confession” Brueckner made to a pal and phone analysis showing he was at the Ocean Club when the toddler vanished. Mr Wolters said: “It is circumstantial evidence – we have no scientific evidence. If we had a video of the act or a picture of Madeleine dead with Brueckner on camera, we wouldn’t have had to make a public appeal. But we only have circumstantial evidence.”

Brueckner was living in a camper van close to Praia da Luz when Madeleine disappeared. UK and German police first became aware of him as a suspect in 2017 but only went public with it last June. Senior investigators have spoken to potential key witnesses in Germany and Portugal.

Mr Wolters dismissed as “rubbish” a recent report that the probe will end by Christmas, but said it is likely Brueckner will be charged early next year with other alleged offences in Portugal.

They include the rape of an Irish woman in the Algarve in 2004 and two incidents where he allegedly flashed at youngsters.

Asked if he was happy with the pace of the Madeleine probe, Mr Wolters said: “It could have gone better. Of course we hoped we’d get such good tip-offs that the investigation might have already ended. But the case is progressing.”

He said a “very big number” have been interviewed but the team has yet to find the person Brueckner spoke to on the phone around the time Madeleine went missing. He added: “We’ve found no evidence to clear Mr Brueckner of suspicion. Everything we’ve found fits in the picture. We’re perhaps halfway through.”

Defending the decision not to show the McCanns the evidence that leads prosecutors to believe Madeleine is dead, he said: “If I did ...is very possible that they would then no longer have any hope.”

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/madeleine-mccann-prosecutor-100-convinced-25173564?utm_source=linkCopy&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar

“If I did ...is very possible that they would then no longer have any hope.”

A very odd thing to say considering that he’s been telling every journalist who will listen for the last 16 months that Madeleine has been brutally murdered by a paedophile.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Brietta

Re: Maddie Basta de Mentiras
« Reply #56 on: October 09, 2021, 12:52:11 AM »
Wolters says all that needs to be said about Amaral and his book:

“We are not interested in the views and assessments of a former Portuguese police officer because we assume that he does not have our investigation results and files. It is therefore completely irrelevant to us what Mr Amaral thinks, says and writes. "
“We are not interested in the views and assessments of a former Portuguese police officer because we assume that he does not have our investigation results and files. It is therefore completely irrelevant to us what Mr Amaral thinks, says and writes. "

He has really been an irrelevance to Madeleine's case from the day and hour he was dismissed in disgrace from it but was very much allowed to make it his own to do with as he willed.  He made his name and fortune with the firm exclusion of finding out what happened to her only making up one conspiracy theory after another.

He claimed he knew what happened to her.

His present efforts to throw a spanner into the works of the present German investigation tend to imply that he does indeed know exactly that.
Why else be at such pains to cause as much dishonest disruption as possible starting with prematurely releasing Brueckner's identity to the public domain.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Maddie Basta de Mentiras
« Reply #57 on: October 09, 2021, 07:12:31 AM »
Odd that none of his staunch defenders has anything supportive to say about Amaral’s latest pronouncements, I wonder why not?  Could it be that they are somewhat embarrassed by what he has to say and are satisfied merely with the belief that he is causing more upset and anguish with his new book?  Yes, I reckon they’re just revelling in that which makes them bullies and not very nice people imo.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Maddie Basta de Mentiras
« Reply #58 on: October 09, 2021, 08:15:48 AM »
Besides if Bruckner is charged and found guilty the money in the fund will be used to  ‘ pursue such purposes in similar cases arising in the United Kingdom, Portugal or elsewhere.’ So there will be no money for litigation.
If Bruckner is charged and found guilty he McCanns would be vindicated and Amaral would be toast once and for all, no need for litigation.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline barrier

Re: Maddie Basta de Mentiras
« Reply #59 on: October 09, 2021, 08:39:21 AM »
If the McCanns are successful at the ECHR he could find himself back in court.. They could ask the Portuguese to re-open the original case and the SC judgement be re-examined

By the time its heard at the echr, we'll be all long past caring,(except you) you seem to ignore its not even on a list of noteworthy pending, those that are have had their cases communicated back in 2017.

Noteworthy pending cases
Chamber
Freedom of expression cases
(Article 10)
Patrício Monteiro Telo de Abreu v.
Portugal (no. 42713/15)
Case communicated to the Government on
1 December 2017
The case concerns the applicant’s criminal
conviction for defamation subsequent to a
publication in his blog.
Freitas Rangel v. Portugal
(no. 78873/13)
Case communicated to the Government on
29 November 2017
The case concerns the applicant’s criminal
conviction for offending a legal person on
account of statements made by him about
the Trade Union Association of Judges and
the Trade Union of Public Prosecutors
during a session of Parliament’s Ethics,
Society and Culture Committee in which he
gave his views on the topic of freedom of
expression in Portugal in view of his
experience as a journalist.
Nóbrega v. Portugal (no. 24955/15)
Case communicated to the Government on
29 November 2017
The case concerns disciplinary proceedings
against the applicant, who was a trade
unionist, following statements he made to
the media about other disciplinary
proceedings lodged against him.
Other pending applications on Article 10:
SIC - Sociedade Independente de
Comunicação v. Portugal (no. 29856/13),
Marques dos Reis v. Portugal
(no. 61177/14), and Welsh and Silva Canha
v. Portugal (no. 2) (no. 58106/15)
This is my own private domicile and I shall not be harassed, biatch:Jesse Pinkman Character.