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Offline G-Unit

Re: Maddie Basta de Mentiras
« Reply #345 on: October 21, 2021, 09:56:27 AM »
I think he is a busted flush.  I also think he has propelled himself back to the forefront of Madeleine's case in a manner which must be officially questioned.

The book which says nothing he hasn't stated a thousand times before also raises questions about him.
  • Was it a drink at the last chance saloon of opportunism to line his pockets at Madeleine's expense?
  • Was it something deeper and darker as epitomised by his efforts to disrupt the German investigation?
    • ensuring the release of the identity of the suspect in the case
    • introducing lies about the appearance of Brueckner's Westfalia
    • introducing lies about Brueckner's physical appearance in 2007 disproved by video footage
I think Amaral has had a very good run in the Portuguese media; but I think that may be about to end rather abruptly just as I think his little pension pot of "Maddie Basta de Mentiras" will be his last book in like vein as his remaining audience - or perhaps the investigators - see him for what he is.

Does anyone care? (except you, obviously)
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Maddie Basta de Mentiras
« Reply #346 on: October 21, 2021, 10:09:13 AM »
Does anyone care? (except you, obviously)

Your posts reeks of desperation and denial.  Of course people care.  It will be proved he has spouted lies for years..
All those who've claimed he hasn't been proved wrong... All those who see him as a brilliant detective rather than the fool he would proved to be

Offline jassi

Re: Maddie Basta de Mentiras
« Reply #347 on: October 21, 2021, 10:11:27 AM »
I think we are only talking about a handful of people - whichever side of the Amaral divide they fall.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Uncle Jr

Re: Maddie Basta de Mentiras
« Reply #348 on: October 21, 2021, 10:12:50 AM »
Your posts reeks of desperation and denial.  Of course people care.  It will be proved he has spouted lies for years..
All those who've claimed he hasn't been proved wrong... All those who see him as a brilliant detective rather than the fool he would proved to be
I don't see it that way. I don't think it's lies, it's delusion and hubris.
He may still claim vindication if a. there is no trial or b. there is a trial but he receives a 'not guity / not proven'.

Offline Uncle Jr

Re: Maddie Basta de Mentiras
« Reply #349 on: October 21, 2021, 10:15:58 AM »
I think we are only talking about a handful of people - whichever side of the Amaral divide they fall.
In the great scheme of things, you're right. If we were to conduct a vox pops on the streets of Buxton, Basingstoke or Brixton, I doubt no more than a couple of percent would know who he was, even if they were shown a photo.
He's probably quite (in)famous, comparatively speaking, in Portugal, however.

Offline jassi

Re: Maddie Basta de Mentiras
« Reply #350 on: October 21, 2021, 10:21:27 AM »
In the great scheme of things, you're right. If we were to conduct a vox pops on the streets of Buxton, Basingstoke or Brixton, I doubt no more than a couple of percent would know who he was, even if they were shown a photo.
He's probably quite (in)famous, comparatively speaking, in Portugal, however.

He probably is, but even there I don't think many are really interested in his  antics.

Like the rest of the real world, people have much greater issues to deal with and think about.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Maddie Basta de Mentiras
« Reply #351 on: October 21, 2021, 10:41:10 AM »
Your posts reeks of desperation and denial.  Of course people care.  It will be proved he has spouted lies for years..
All those who've claimed he hasn't been proved wrong... All those who see him as a brilliant detective rather than the fool he would proved to be

Brueckner is innocent.

Just in case you needed reminding.
Christian Brueckner Fan Club

Offline Uncle Jr

Re: Maddie Basta de Mentiras
« Reply #352 on: October 21, 2021, 10:50:30 AM »
He probably is, but even there I don't think many are really interested in his  antics.

Like the rest of the real world, people have much greater issues to deal with and think about.
Agreed.
Imagine if CB doesn't get charged or is found not guilty.....Amaral's stock will rise, but still not enough to create a ripple in the great scheme of things. He's a non-entity; a footnote. All of the peripheral characters' profiles will fade over the passage of time. Some will be judged, labelled and consigned to the dusty shelf of obscurity. Amaral will be fleetingly remembered as a relic whose own hubris exponentially exceeded his competence; a product of a post Estado Novo quasi-police state - so perhaps it's not surprising he dogmatically clung to the one line of enquiry that depended on vilifying foreigners.

Offline Uncle Jr

Re: Maddie Basta de Mentiras
« Reply #353 on: October 21, 2021, 10:52:22 AM »
Brueckner is innocent.

Just in case you needed reminding.
Well he hasn't even been questioned, as far as we are aware, so legally that's a given. I'm equally, de facto innocent.
Honest.

Offline Brietta

Re: Maddie Basta de Mentiras
« Reply #354 on: October 21, 2021, 11:00:56 AM »
Does anyone care? (except you, obviously)

         Quite obviously ~ you are another 😁
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Maddie Basta de Mentiras
« Reply #355 on: October 21, 2021, 11:07:01 AM »
Does anyone care? (except you, obviously)
Everyone still posting about this case 14 years later cares one way or the other, whether you care to admit it or not.  We have all invested a huge number of hours in this case and pretending that you don't care how it all pans out for a man for you seem to agree with and for whom you appear to have a certain amount of respect for is not fooling anyone
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Maddie Basta de Mentiras
« Reply #356 on: October 21, 2021, 11:14:49 AM »
Well he hasn't even been questioned, as far as we are aware, so legally that's a given. I'm equally, de facto innocent.
Honest.

Does being questioned somehow make someone less innocent?

If that's the case then Brueckner is more innocent than the McCanns.
Christian Brueckner Fan Club

Offline G-Unit

Re: Maddie Basta de Mentiras
« Reply #357 on: October 21, 2021, 11:23:29 AM »
Your posts reeks of desperation and denial.  Of course people care.  It will be proved he has spouted lies for years..
All those who've claimed he hasn't been proved wrong... All those who see him as a brilliant detective rather than the fool he would proved to be

Why would I be despairing or need to deny anything? I agree with Amaral that there were questions arising about the holiday group's timeline and other aspects of their statements, I accept that his thesis of accidental death hasn't been proved wrong, I was pleased that he was allowed to express his opinions on the case without being made destitute and I don't think he is a fool. None of that means that I think he was a brilliant detective, that I agree with everything he's said and done, or that I care if he's proved wrong.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Maddie Basta de Mentiras
« Reply #358 on: October 21, 2021, 11:27:12 AM »
Does being questioned somehow make someone less innocent?

If that's the case then Brueckner is more innocent than the McCanns.

Unlike in Portugal, German law enforcers seem to be able to name someone as a prime suspect without offering them the legal protection Portuguese law allows it's arguidos.
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Offline Brietta

Re: Maddie Basta de Mentiras
« Reply #359 on: October 21, 2021, 11:29:57 AM »
I don't see it that way. I don't think it's lies, it's delusion and hubris.
He may still claim vindication if a. there is no trial or b. there is a trial but he receives a 'not guity / not proven'.

As long as Amaral has an audience he will continue with his obsession which I think is one big lie from start to finish.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....