Anectdotal witness evidence

[Mr Gray]

I did say a neighbours house, not the house where she was residing at the time.

What's the difference..  &^&*%Why should it matter when if a child comes to harm it's more likely to be at the hands of her family..

[Icanhandlethetruth]

What's the difference..  &^&*%Why should it matter when if a child comes to harm it's more likely to be at the hands of her family..

If you really can’t see the difference between someone stating a missing girls was seen entering a neighbours house but never leaving and a statement that the missing returned to her own place of residence then there is no hope to have a logical debate.

[Mr Gray]

If you really can’t see the difference between someone stating a missing girls was seen entering a neighbours house but never leaving and a statement that the missing returned to her own place of residence then there is no hope to have a logical debate.

In your opinion. 

[Icanhandlethetruth]

In your opinion.

Yes it is my opinion. Is it your opinion that 2 statements, one, someone saw a missing girl going into a neighbours house and not exiting and another saying the missing went to her usual place of residence are the same?

[Mr Gray]

Yes it is my opinion. Is it your opinion that 2 statements, one, someone saw a missing girl going into a neighbours house and not exiting and another saying the missing went to her usual place of residence are the same?

They are both witness statements... They both support the possibility of foul play... In that way they are the same.

[Icanhandlethetruth]

They are both witness statements... They both support the possibility of foul play... In that way they are the same.

So are you saying a statement that Maddie was seen entering a 5a suggests the possibility of foul play?
Would this in your opinion give support to the alerts?

[Mr Gray]

So are you saying a statement that Maddie was seen entering a 5a suggests the possibility of foul play?
Would this in your opinion give support to the alerts?

It doesn't matter what I think it's facts that count. ..and what Grime thinks and claims.


Maddie was last seen with her parents in 5a... She disappeared and three months later hadn't been seen again.. I think that is proof of foul play... Yet you think that only applies if she was seen entering a neighbours house.... And criticise me because I do not agree..


A dog alerts ...according to Grime that supports the alert.. I don't think it does

[Icanhandlethetruth]

It doesn't matter what I think it's facts that count. ..and what Grime thinks and claims.


Maddie was last seen with her parents in 5a... She disappeared and three months later hadn't been seen again.. I think that is proof of foul play... Yet you think that only applies if she was seen entering a neighbours house.... And criticise me because I do not agree..


A dog alerts ...according to Grime that supports the alert.. I don't think it does

Blimey, so you think the statement that Maddie was seen entering 5a gives support to the dog alerts. Even I don’t go that far.
Good to know, good to know

[Mr Gray]

Blimey, so you think the statement that Maddie was seen entering 5a gives support to the dog alerts. Even I don’t go that far.
Good to know, good to know

Read the post... I say I don't..

[Icanhandlethetruth]

Read the post... I say I don't..

No you said

A dog alerts ...according to Grime that supports the alert.. I don't think it does

Grime has never said this, he has said,

“Alerts given by the dog where no obvious human remains are found are

supported by forensic evidence/anecdotal witness accounts.”

Please clarify what you mean, because you are all over the shop.

Statement says missing girl is seen entering into neighbours house (where a dog alerts) and isn’t seen leaving

Statement says missing girl was seen arriving home (where a dog alerts).

Are one or both of the anecdotal witness statements that support said dog alerts?

[Mr Gray]

No you said

A dog alerts ...according to Grime that supports the alert.. I don't think it does

Grime has never said this, he has said,

“Alerts given by the dog where no obvious human remains are found are

supported by forensic evidence/anecdotal witness accounts.”

Please clarify what you mean, because you are all over the shop.

Statement says missing girl is seen entering into neighbours house (where a dog alerts) and isn’t seen leaving

Statement says missing girl was seen arriving home (where a dog alerts).

Are one or both of the anecdotal witness statements that support said dog alerts?

Note opinion as fact... I said... I DONT THINK IT DOES... and you read that as I think it does... Then accuse me as being all over the shop.

Imo you lost the argument some time ago... Now you are just cinfirning it.

Imo.. The akerts are horse shit. 
Are you aware if blood has been diluted before drying then Keela may not pick it up but Eddie will.. So all the, alerts could be to microscopic blood remnants.. .
If you think I'm all over the place then you cannot follow a logical argument. Imo

Imo.. Grime is all over the place.
Grime has talked a lot about science.. I would say I'm more qualified than grime to talk about what is evidence and what is not. Evidence is evidence... I think Grime has a poor understanding of what constitutes evidence

[Icanhandlethetruth]

Note opinion as fact... I said... I DONT THINK IT DOES... and you read that as I think it does... Then accuse me as being all over the shop.

Imo you lost the argument some time ago... Now you are just cinfirning it.

Imo.. The akerts are horse shit. 
Are you aware if blood has been diluted before drying then Keela may not pick it up but Eddie will.. So all the, alerts could be to microscopic blood remnants.. .
If you think I'm all over the place then you cannot follow a logical argument. Imo

Imo.. Grime is all over the place.
Grime has talked a lot about science.. I would say I'm more qualified than grime to talk about what is evidence and what is not. Evidence is evidence... I think Grime has a poor understanding of what constitutes evidence

No, you said I don’t think it does in relation to your belief that Grime has said the alerts are confirmed by the alerts, not to my question which was

“Blimey, so you think the statement that Maddie was seen entering 5a gives support to the dog alerts”

Can I ask politely, is English your mother tongue?

I lost the argument in your mind only.

Answer the question as this thread is about anecdotal witness evidence

Statement says missing girl is seen entering into neighbours house (where a dog alerts) and isn’t seen leaving

Statement says missing girl was seen arriving home (where a dog alerts).

Are one or both of the anecdotal witness statements that support said dog alerts?

[Mr Gray]

No, you said I don’t think it does in relation to your belief that Grime has said the alerts are confirmed by the alerts, not to my question which was

“Blimey, so you think the statement that Maddie was seen entering 5a gives support to the dog alerts”

Can I ask politely, is English your mother tongue?

I lost the argument in your mind only.

Answer the question as this thread is about anecdotal witness evidence

Statement says missing girl is seen entering into neighbours house (where a dog alerts) and isn’t seen leaving

Statement says missing girl was seen arriving home (where a dog alerts).

Are one or both of the anecdotal witness statements that support said dog alerts?

I really can't be bothered with you anymore... You ignore my point that Grime has completely ignored the FACT that as Eddie alerts to blood.. All the alerts could be to blood.. Blood that has been so diluted that Keela could not detect it..

[Icanhandlethetruth]

I really can't be bothered with you anymore... You ignore my point that Grime has completely ignored the FACT that as Eddie alerts to blood.. All the alerts could be to blood.. Blood that has been so diluted that Keela could not detect it..

Davel as we always disagree, I was hoping by answering my question I could get a better understanding about where you were coming from.
I ignored your point about the blood as it was off topic and you always try to deflect by raising a different subject. Please start a thread about it and I will gladly participate.

Now in the theme of the thread that you yourself started, for the 3rd time,

Statement says missing girl is seen entering into neighbours house (where a dog alerts) and isn’t seen leaving

Statement says missing girl was seen arriving home (where a dog alerts).

Are one or both of the anecdotal witness statements that support said dog alerts?

Lets get to the bottom of it.

[Mr Gray]

Davel as we always disagree, I was hoping by answering my question I could get a better understanding about where you were coming from.
I ignored your point about the blood as it was off topic and you always try to deflect by raising a different subject. Please start a thread about it and I will gladly participate.

Now in the theme of the thread that you yourself started, for the 3rd time,

Statement says missing girl is seen entering into neighbours house (where a dog alerts) and isn’t seen leaving

Statement says missing girl was seen arriving home (where a dog alerts).

Are one or both of the anecdotal witness statements that support said dog alerts?

Lets get to the bottom of it.

When you asked if English was my mother tongue I loost the little respect I had for you.
I explained I had tried to stop all the sniping on the forum but you didn't believe me so I'm doing it again.
Your remark was plain sarcasm
I've given my opinion on Grime and his dogs so I'm sure you must understand what they are by now and need no further explanation.
For me Grime has a poor understanding of what constitutes evidence.
If a clairvoyant days does anyone know a Paul who has recently passed over.. And someone replies yes... That is anectdotal evidence and supports her skill.  For me that sums up Grimes claims