Anectdotal witness evidence

[Mr Gray]

Imo it's an assumption by McCann supporters. Why they think it's significant, however, I don't know. Most dog searches are carried out in areas which are associated with the missing person or with suspects. That's why all the apartments occupied by the T9 were visited, as was Murat's house.

It's like the clairvoyant who has a thousand bereaved people in the crowd....
Grime goes to crime scenes where its obviously a serious crime has occurred.... Post hoc ergo proctor hoc

[Mr Gray]

But it also says judgement reached. and the other two say the same.
You can't just pick the one that suits you best, and ignore the others.
How do you know Harrison meant your definition and not the others.
You don't.

Based on the following all the cadaver alerts in luz are unreliable..


Only detection canine resources trained specifically in the detection of human
decomposition may provide reliable intelligence. Resources trained with the
inclusion of animal-based training aids provide a far wider interpretation of canine
responses that must include the source may equally be animal or human. If
detection canine training is inclusive of food-based pork products this widens the
interpretation spectrum to include foodstuff.

[Icanhandlethetruth]

First it was you who offered the definition
...second it fits.  Harrison wanted to distance himself from Grimes alerts imo.  The evidence is in his statements .
In s previous post gunit made the same observation

First, how do you know Harrison meant opinion which is a rather vague definition of conclusion would you not concede the more popular definition of conclusion is to reach a judgement, to decide?

Two, the dictionary defines

Suggest:
put forward for consideration.
 
Infer:
deduce or conclude (something) from evidence and reasoning rather than from explicit statements

If you think these two definitions are the same, then its a whole heap of worse.

[Icanhandlethetruth]

Based on the following all the cadaver alerts in luz are unreliable..


Only detection canine resources trained specifically in the detection of human
decomposition may provide reliable intelligence. Resources trained with the
inclusion of animal-based training aids provide a far wider interpretation of canine
responses that must include the source may equally be animal or human. If
detection canine training is inclusive of food-based pork products this widens the
interpretation spectrum to include foodstuff.

More inept policing then, why did Harrison bring them over.
Forget about slagging off the PJ, slag of the British police they have been wasting time and money for years training and operating these dogs. Write to your MP about this scandal.

[Mr Gray]

More inept policing then, why did Harrison bring them over.
Forget about slagging off the PJ, slag of the British police they have been wasting time and money for years training and operating these dogs. Write to your MP about this scandal.

ive explained..with evidence,,,it was a new idea...an experiment,

my cite confirms the alerts are unreliable

[Vertigo Swirl]

Imo it's an assumption by McCann supporters. Why they think it's significant, however, I don't know. Most dog searches are carried out in areas which are associated with the missing person or with suspects. That's why all the apartments occupied by the T9 were visited, as was Murat's house.

It’sa very reasonable deduction all things considered.  If you belive unconsonsious bias simply does not exist in the world of cadaver dog alerts or that Grime was incapable of such a thing then of course you wouldn’t understand the significance. Meanwhile in the real world…

[Vertigo Swirl]

More inept policing then, why did Harrison bring them over.
Forget about slagging off the PJ, slag of the British police they have been wasting time and money for years training and operating these dogs. Write to your MP about this scandal.

What scandal?  The only “scandal” is people on forums assigning far too much weight to a couple of dog alerts that happened 14plus years ago and which to anyone who actually matters are completely irrelevant to this case.

[Icanhandlethetruth]

ive explained..with evidence,,,it was a new idea...an experiment,

my cite confirms the alerts are unreliable

Here is another part of the problem. You don’t seem to recognise nuance or context in language. You see the word anecdotal in “anecdotal witness evidence” and assume it means a tale or whimsical story or even a clairvoyants act. Rather than looking at the context and realising it means an account of an event.
 
This follows with your cite, it's from the white paper by Cassella and Grime which, if you had read the entire paper as I have, its denouement concerns the authors desire to have a dedicated human parts farm set up in the UK, you might think they are impartial but they have an interest. You have to read the context in everything, not just cherry pick certain paragraphs.

[Mr Gray]

It’sa very reasonable deduction all things considered.  If you belive unconsonsious bias simply does not exist in the world of cadaver dog alerts or that Grime was incapable of such a thing then of course you wouldn’t understand the significance. Meanwhile in the real world…

according to gunit we can do away with double blind studies in drug trials and just accept unconcious bias doesnt exist...

[Vertigo Swirl]

Here is another part of the problem. You don’t seem to recognise nuance or context in language. You see the word anecdotal in “anecdotal witness evidence” and assume it means a tale or whimsical story or even a clairvoyants act. Rather than looking at the context and realising it means an account of an event.
 
This follows with your cite, it's from the white paper by Cassella and Grime which, if you had read the entire paper as I have, its denouement concerns the authors desire to have a dedicated human parts farm set up in the UK, you might think they are impartial but they have an interest. You have to read the context in everything, not just cherry pick certain paragraphs.

So do you believe they were simply exaggerating for effect in order to try and get a UK body farm set up?

[Mr Gray]

First, how do you know Harrison meant opinion which is a rather vague definition of conclusion would you not concede the more popular definition of conclusion is to reach a judgement, to decide?

Two, the dictionary defines

Suggest:
put forward for consideration.
 
Infer:
deduce or conclude (something) from evidence and reasoning rather than from explicit statements

If you think these two definitions are the same, then its a whole heap of worse.

Your post is complete junk...everytime you have a conversation do you get your dic out and check all the meanings of every word..lol

[Icanhandlethetruth]

Your post is complete junk...everytime you have a conversation do you get your dic out and check all the meanings of every word..lol

No I know what words mean, unlike some people!

[Mr Gray]

Here is another part of the problem. You don’t seem to recognise nuance or context in language. You see the word anecdotal in “anecdotal witness evidence” and assume it means a tale or whimsical story or even a clairvoyants act. Rather than looking at the context and realising it means an account of an event.
 
This follows with your cite, it's from the white paper by Cassella and Grime which, if you had read the entire paper as I have, its denouement concerns the authors desire to have a dedicated human parts farm set up in the UK, you might think they are impartial but they have an interest. You have to read the context in everything, not just cherry pick certain paragraphs.

The white paper is by Grime with an introduction by Cassella...so the quote is owned by Grime.
You are a fool if you think i dont understand what anectdotal means. it sems you dont.

the quote from the paper is quite clear..you just cant handle the truth

[Mr Gray]

Here is another part of the problem. You don’t seem to recognise nuance or context in language. You see the word anecdotal in “anecdotal witness evidence” and assume it means a tale or whimsical story or even a clairvoyants act. Rather than looking at the context and realising it means an account of an event.
 
This follows with your cite, it's from the white paper by Cassella and Grime which, if you had read the entire paper as I have, its denouement concerns the authors desire to have a dedicated human parts farm set up in the UK, you might think they are impartial but they have an interest. You have to read the context in everything, not just cherry pick certain paragraphs.

Perhaps its you who doesnt understand and my posts are too intellectually complex for you to follow.

The reference to clairvoyants has nothing to do with anectdotal...it shows how if someone makes enough pt=redictions some are bound to come true and the gullible forget all the other failures


cherry picking is exactly what Grime does in his cv imo. Nothing wrong with that ...everyone does it

[Icanhandlethetruth]

The white paper is by Grime with an introduction by Cassella...so the quote is owned by Grime.
You are a fool if you think i dont understand what anectdotal means. it sems you dont.

the quote from the paper is quite clear..you just cant handle the truth

This is how it is introduced on the staffs uni website:

GRIME, Martin and CASSELLA, John (2018) Forensic Canine White Papers A proof of concept foundational guide to the application of forensic canines within law enforcement investigations, research and training development. Other. Staffordshire University, Staffordshire University.
 
Notice the 2 names in bold.
 
As you raised this thread about anecdotal witness evidence, what is your definition of anecdotal in context of the phrase above?
 
If the quote is of any concern to any one in authority why is there not an inquiry into the use of improper dogs by the UK Police force? Because there is no issue with it. You just grab onto it because it suits your beliefs, do you believe everything Martin Grime has written?