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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Anectdotal witness evidence
« Reply #390 on: January 03, 2022, 08:45:08 AM »
Do you have a professional or specialized knowledge in cadaver dog training then? Where did you obtain this knowledge?
Has the FBI ever employed you because of your expertise in this field? If not, why not?

And regards the FBI.. From what I can see Grime impressed only one man.. Reg Stockhouse.
The reason for the interest was nothing to do with Eddie.. The US had plenty of cadaver dogs... It was firstly Keela.. The Americans had no similar  blood dig.. Then Grimes idea of using the alerts, as intelligence. In the 2007 Zapata trial the judge referred to the alerts as a new type of evidence.

Thr interesting question is did Grine sppriach the FBI.. And volunteer his services or did the FfBI approach him.

Offline faithlilly

Re: Anectdotal witness evidence
« Reply #391 on: January 03, 2022, 08:45:36 AM »
Precisely; "self certification" is what caused Eddie to be classed as "incompetent" when working in Luz (Keela's accreditation lapsed a fortnight into her time in HDLG) although Grime was of the opinion his dogs' training was superior to the ACPO accreditation.

Could you explain why you think Eddie would be less competent a fortnight after you allege he lost his ACPO accreditation than he had been a fortnight before? Did he simply forget his training in that fortnight?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Anectdotal witness evidence
« Reply #392 on: January 03, 2022, 08:49:42 AM »
Could you explain why you think Eddie would be less competent a fortnight after you allege he lost his ACPO accreditation than he had been a fortnight before? Did he simply forget his training in that fortnight?

I agree.. Eddie lost none of his competence.. He was unreliable both before and after according to Grime

Offline faithlilly

Re: Anectdotal witness evidence
« Reply #393 on: January 03, 2022, 08:58:40 AM »
I have specialised and professional training in the assessment of evidence..... I would say my understanding of evidence is superior to Grimes based on some very  unscientific remarks in his white paper.. For the record I'm UK snd US trained... More to come

You didn’t answer my question.

Strangely enough my friend’s granddaughter is a dental assistant in the area that you practice. Perhaps you know each other?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Anectdotal witness evidence
« Reply #394 on: January 03, 2022, 09:02:20 AM »
You didn’t answer my question.

Strangely enough my friend’s granddaughter is a dental assistant in the area that you practice. Perhaps you know each other?

Which Question.. You asked several

I would be surprised if she didn't know me.. What's the name of the practice.  She may even know my daughter.. Shes a dentist in another local practice

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Anectdotal witness evidence
« Reply #395 on: January 03, 2022, 09:29:42 AM »
You didn’t answer my question.

Strangely enough my friend’s granddaughter is a dental assistant in the area that you practice. Perhaps you know each other?
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Anectdotal witness evidence
« Reply #396 on: January 03, 2022, 09:37:49 AM »
I have specialised and professional training in the assessment of evidence..... I would say my understanding of evidence is superior to Grimes based on some very  unscientific remarks in his white paper.. For the record I'm UK snd US trained... More to come

Grime, on occasion, was observed calling Eddie back to the task in hand. We know he did it, we saw him. What we don't know is why. In order to find out why more information is needed. Anyone who knows how to assess evidence would understand that.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Anectdotal witness evidence
« Reply #397 on: January 03, 2022, 09:42:37 AM »
Grime, on occasion, was observed calling Eddie back to the task in hand. We know he did it, we saw him. What we don't know is why. In order to find out why more information is needed. Anyone who knows how to assess evidence would understand that.

Lets look at what we know for sure...As I had already realised and Grime confirms...Eddie was not a reliable cadaver dog...


You need to try and understand that


Offline G-Unit

Re: Anectdotal witness evidence
« Reply #398 on: January 03, 2022, 10:46:49 AM »
Lets look at what we know for sure...As I had already realised and Grime confirms...Eddie was not a reliable cadaver dog...


You need to try and understand that

That's the message I'm trying to get across to you. You don't know why Grime called Eddie back at times, so can't speculate about what it means, because you have insufficient evidence. Do you now understand how to assess evidence?

Eddie was a reliable dog according to his fieldwork record and his training on human cadaver scent in the US. In 2018 Grime was recommending such training for all UK human remains detection dogs.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Anectdotal witness evidence
« Reply #399 on: January 03, 2022, 10:54:12 AM »
That's the message I'm trying to get across to you. You don't know why Grime called Eddie back at times, so can't speculate about what it means, because you have insufficient evidence. Do you now understand how to assess evidence?

Eddie was a reliable dog according to his fieldwork record and his training on human cadaver scent in the US. In 2018 Grime was recommending such training for all UK human remains detection dogs.

I have enough evidence to question the calling back.. To question why it happened and my explanation is a possibility.
Eddie was not a reliable cadaver dog fir reasons I've explained. Facts... Not opinion

Offline Brietta

Re: Anectdotal witness evidence
« Reply #400 on: January 03, 2022, 12:20:54 PM »
That's the message I'm trying to get across to you. You don't know why Grime called Eddie back at times, so can't speculate about what it means, because you have insufficient evidence. Do you now understand how to assess evidence?

Eddie was a reliable dog according to his fieldwork record and his training on human cadaver scent in the US. In 2018 Grime was recommending such training for all UK human remains detection dogs.

Probably because of the sensitivity of the work little is known regarding those occasions when cadaver dogs actually do find a cadaver.

Training is different - and you have raised the question of Eddie's training in the USA for which I have seen no independent evidence.  Where can I have sight of your source.

I know that Grime worked with Morse in the USA and the evidence is he was an outstanding dog in training which is backed up by the evidence of the peer review of his training as demanded by the court system.

What can you tell me about Eddie?
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Anectdotal witness evidence
« Reply #401 on: January 03, 2022, 01:34:32 PM »
I have enough evidence to question the calling back.. To question why it happened and my explanation is a possibility.
Eddie was not a reliable cadaver dog fir reasons I've explained. Facts... Not opinion

You said previously; "Calling Eddie back is 100% evidence for what I have claimed." Now your claim has been downgraded to a possibility because you know that there are other possible explanations, so you can't possibly be 100% sure that your opinion is correct.
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Offline G-Unit

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« Reply #402 on: January 03, 2022, 01:54:06 PM »

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"Training is different - and you have raised the question of Eddie's training in the USA for which I have seen no independent evidence.  Where can I have sight of your source."

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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Anectdotal witness evidence
« Reply #403 on: January 03, 2022, 01:56:19 PM »
You said previously; "Calling Eddie back is 100% evidence for what I have claimed." Now your claim has been downgraded to a possibility because you know that there are other possible explanations, so you can't possibly be 100% sure that your opinion is correct.
You’re still struggling with the meaning of the word “evidence” after all these years aren’t you?  It’s quite staggering imo!
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Anectdotal witness evidence
« Reply #404 on: January 03, 2022, 02:37:16 PM »
You said previously; "Calling Eddie back is 100% evidence for what I have claimed." Now your claim has been downgraded to a possibility because you know that there are other possible explanations, so you can't possibly be 100% sure that your opinion is correct.

Context and comprehension...you said it wasnt evidence...I.  said 100% its evidence.

We are both speaking english and still mistakes in understanding