Author Topic: The known facts and the speculations featuring Brueckner, the prime suspect  (Read 158476 times)

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Offline misty

So some witness popped up after the appeal & said yes, Brueckner definitely murdered Maddie.

I see.

I wonder why they never came forward 15 years ago?

Maybe because 15 years ago the people who came forward could have been charged at the time with crimes against Madeleine. It is noticeable that almost all the witnesses who have spoken about Brueckner no longer live in Portugal. I don't think it's a coincidence Busching waited until May 2017 to speak to SY if you factor in the Statute of Limitations in Portugal.

Offline The General

I think BKA are 99% sure Madeleine is dead.
Events between abduction & murder have yet to be clarified and who else may have been involved imo.
I can do better than that. I think she's 100% dead.
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Offline Mr Gray

One wonders why people don't believe Grime was covering both bases with his interpretation of Eddie's alerts but that's for another thread...

Wolters comments regarding "no hope" were made some time after the appeal.

I fuuly understand and have explained Wolters apparent contradiction... It isn't a contradiction. I'm sure those still posting the same old rubbish saw the explanation... So I can't be bothered doing it again. It doesn't matter in the slightest if they don't accept it

Offline barrier

I find it amazing that there appears to be a culture of "flies stuck in aspic" with regard to the progression of Madeleine McCann's investigation and the changes made as fresh information is collated over the years!

You mean Grange I take it,posted yesterday.

Ongoing investigation
In July 2013 the status of the Met’s enquiries changed to that of an investigation, working with the Portuguese authorities to pursue specific lines of enquiry.

The Portuguese authorities retain the lead and the Met continues to work in support of them.

The Home Office continues to fund Operation Grange.
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Offline Brietta

You mean Grange I take it,posted yesterday.

Ongoing investigation
In July 2013 the status of the Met’s enquiries changed to that of an investigation, working with the Portuguese authorities to pursue specific lines of enquiry.

The Portuguese authorities retain the lead and the Met continues to work in support of them.

The Home Office continues to fund Operation Grange.


Nothing stays the same forever.
That is particularly so in the case of an active police investigation which is dedicated to finding the actual fact of what happened to Madeleine McCann and is actually working hard at doing just that.

I imagine that even you must concede that much more is now known about the facts and progression of the case than was the situation in 2013.

For example only a select few (Amaral included) knew that Brueckner had allegedly been eliminated from the inquiry by the Judicial Police.  Although we are not privy to whether or not that was as a result of him not answering any of the alleged doors he had access to at the time.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Brietta

While in agreement with the same caveat as to the reliability of the author expressed by the WS poster I've lifted this from I think it is worth noting in relation to the process the BKA may be using in building their case against Brueckner.

We are aware that Brueckner is a collector of photographic and video images.  But I think it has dropped off the radar a little that he also fancied himself as an author and to that end had left word documents on the storage devices he secreted under his dog's corpse.



In Neuwegersleben, on January 14, 2016, CB’s neighbour calls the local police because of a nauseating smell that came from a certain place of the plot where CB resided in an autocaravan.
The stink was so intense that unlike the earth it did not freeze.

30 cm (1 ft) deep the police found the dead body of a Labrador and underneath it a LIDL supermarket bag containing firewood.

It was found and apprehended in the LIDL bag 6 pen-drives and 2 memory cards which contained “photos of children, including those of an unknown child in sensual poses and, mainly, Word documents which the police responsible for the find describe as writings about serious sexual abuse against children.
Later, BKA identifies these and other writings as two documents produced by the suspect with the titles of Das Buch and Das Buch 1. These books, said to be autobiographic, speak of himself and of friends and describe criminal practices.

It’s unknown if we are before realities or pure fantasies, but the fact is that the finding of all this material was and is useful for the construction of a suspect.

Chapter 26     Goncalo Amaral
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Wonderfulspam

Maybe because 15 years ago the people who came forward could have been charged at the time with crimes against Madeleine. It is noticeable that almost all the witnesses who have spoken about Brueckner no longer live in Portugal. I don't think it's a coincidence Busching waited until May 2017 to speak to SY if you factor in the Statute of Limitations in Portugal.

Right, the secret paedo child abduction trafficking gang again, something to do with the Russians wasn't it.

I heard they would hand the girls over at Barcelona docks.
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Offline The General

Maybe because 15 years ago the people who came forward could have been charged at the time with crimes against Madeleine. It is noticeable that almost all the witnesses who have spoken about Brueckner no longer live in Portugal. I don't think it's a coincidence Busching waited until May 2017 to speak to SY if you factor in the Statute of Limitations in Portugal.
You mean the German nationals who live in Germany again now? I can see how that adds weight to your point.
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Offline Wonderfulspam

You mean the German nationals who live in Germany again now? I can see how that adds weight to your point.

Yeah, Busching was concerned about the 15 year statute.

So when Brueckner confessed to him in 2008, he waited until he was arrested in 2017 (within the statute) to tell police.

Busching also claims he tried telling the PJ around 2008, but was rebuffed.

So he was worried about the statute, & also not worried.

It all makes sense now.
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Offline Brietta

Thanks to WS

A documentary by the broadcaster Sat.1 provided new details in the Maddie McCann case. Now the suspect, who is currently in prison, has filed a complaint against one of the journalists.

Christian B., who was arrested for rape, has filed a criminal complaint against journalist Jutta Rabe "on suspicion of qualified defamation". The letter from his lawyer Friedrich Fülscher to the public prosecutor's office in Kiel is available to "Spiegel". The background is a TV documentary followed by a talk show about B., the suspect in the Madeleine McCann kidnapping case . Fülscher writes that the program contained "false factual allegations" intended to make his client "contemptible".

Rabe said in the documentary that B. allegedly starved two dogs. In fact, according to Fülscher, one of the dogs escaped, the other was euthanized due to an incurable cancer, which he also communicated when asked by Sat.1. During the TV talk, Rabe also said that in two other cases against B. for raping an Irish woman and abusing a child, the public prosecutor's office probably had fingerprints and DNA traces. According to an e-mail from the public prosecutor's office, from which Fülscher quotes, these details are "inaccurate". Rabe did not want to comment on the matter when asked, the presumption of innocence applies.


https://www.t-online.de/nachrichten/panorama/kriminalitaet/id_91606732/maddie-mccann-verdaechtiger-entfuehrer-klagt-gegen-tv-journalistin.html
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline jassi

It'll be interesting to see how that goes.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Thanks to WS

A documentary by the broadcaster Sat.1 provided new details in the Maddie McCann case. Now the suspect, who is currently in prison, has filed a complaint against one of the journalists.

Christian B., who was arrested for rape, has filed a criminal complaint against journalist Jutta Rabe "on suspicion of qualified defamation". The letter from his lawyer Friedrich Fülscher to the public prosecutor's office in Kiel is available to "Spiegel". The background is a TV documentary followed by a talk show about B., the suspect in the Madeleine McCann kidnapping case . Fülscher writes that the program contained "false factual allegations" intended to make his client "contemptible".

Rabe said in the documentary that B. allegedly starved two dogs. In fact, according to Fülscher, one of the dogs escaped, the other was euthanized due to an incurable cancer, which he also communicated when asked by Sat.1. During the TV talk, Rabe also said that in two other cases against B. for raping an Irish woman and abusing a child, the public prosecutor's office probably had fingerprints and DNA traces. According to an e-mail from the public prosecutor's office, from which Fülscher quotes, these details are "inaccurate". Rabe did not want to comment on the matter when asked, the presumption of innocence applies.


https://www.t-online.de/nachrichten/panorama/kriminalitaet/id_91606732/maddie-mccann-verdaechtiger-entfuehrer-klagt-gegen-tv-journalistin.html
As if a convicted rapist and paedophile wasn’t contemptible enough as it is fgs, does he think he has a reputation as a dog lover to defend?  Actually the thought of CB as a dog lover has kind of turned my stomach…
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Eleanor


I very much doubt that Brueckner was abusing his dogs.  That doesn't appear to have been his thing.  But I also  doubt that this would have been cause for a Libel Action.

Offline Wonderfulspam

As if a convicted rapist and paedophile wasn’t contemptible enough as it is fgs, does he think he has a reputation as a dog lover to defend?  Actually the thought of CB as a dog lover has kind of turned my stomach…

Well I think it's rather sweet.
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Offline Anthro

I very much doubt that Brueckner was abusing his dogs.  That doesn't appear to have been his thing.  But I also  doubt that this would have been cause for a Libel Action.
Yet, he left them locked up at the kiosk in Brünswick where they eventually died.