The known facts and the speculations featuring Brueckner, the prime suspect

[faithlilly]

Good thinking Brie.   He could be here amongst us, spewing out lies,

Or he could be serving a rather long sentence in prison with no access to the internet. Which one do you think it is?

[sadie]

OK let’s work it out.  You seem to be suggesting that the absence of their fingerprints on the window suggests that they never touched the window in the first place, that’s what I have worked out - that you think they were both lying about touching the window.  Am I right? That Dianne Webster and Gerry McCann never once touched the window because their finger prints weren’t on it?

I think someone deliberately wiped Dianne and Gerrys fingerprints off, but why?

To try and prove no-one came in via that window?   To beef up a case against Kate (and Gerry?)



Just my thoughts that could be wrong, but WHERE did the finger prints go ?

[sadie]

So, either DW and GM were wearing gloves when they touched the window (unlikely)  or they never touched it at all, which means that the only person who opened and closed the window was Kate McCann who did it to stage an abduction.  Strange thing to do, both open AND close it to make out Madeleine was taken via the window, but if that’s what Barrier has worked out then that MUST be what happened!

IMO she almost certainly did not go out via the window.   No fibres or marks of any sort on the frame or cill.

IMO she went out thru the front door where she was passed to another person.  When taking her from her bed, her head would have been on the lifters right arm, but when Jane saw Tannerman, he had her head on his left arm.   This indicates that there were at last 2 people involved.   And then additionally the get away driver.


This all makes sense in my opinion.

[sadie]

Not being the forensic expert that you clearly are, I couldn't possibly say.

Are you jealous?   You sound it.

[The General]

Good thinking Brie.   He could be here amongst us, spewing out lies,

It's me.
I've been wiping videos from the internet too.

[The General]

I think someone deliberately wiped Dianne and Gerrys fingerprints off, but why?

To try and prove no-one came in via that window?   To beef up a case against Kate (and Gerry?)



Just my thoughts that could be wrong, but WHERE did the finger prints go ?

Eh? They broke back in and wiped the fingerprints from a window?
As for castigating the SOC officer for the last 14 years for only wearing one glove [...did you see that Joyce, that woman's only wearing one glove, I mean, really....harummpphh, whine, whine] - she wasn't taking DNA samples, she was specifically taking prints. If she inadvertently placed one of her own there, and she probably didn't, then she would rule that out.
Not best practice probably, but not compromising anything.

[G-Unit]

Eh? They broke back in and wiped the fingerprints from a window?
As for castigating the SOC officer for the last 14 years for only wearing one glove [...did you see that Joyce, that woman's only wearing one glove, I mean, really....harummpphh, whine, whine] - she wasn't taking DNA samples, she was specifically taking prints. If she inadvertently placed one of her own there, and she probably didn't, then she would rule that out.
Not best practice probably, but not compromising anything.

I think the inference is that the Portuguese authorities did it.

[Eleanor]

Just carelessness if you ask me.

[The General]

I think the inference is that the Portuguese authorities did it.

Jesus, talk about nonsensical conspiracy theories, sportaz are awash with them, making a new one up most weeks.

[Eleanor]

The PJ were not known for the care they took.  Fag Ash and Dog's Hairs all over the place.

[barrier]

Eh? They broke back in and wiped the fingerprints from a window?
As for castigating the SOC officer for the last 14 years for only wearing one glove [...did you see that Joyce, that woman's only wearing one glove, I mean, really....harummpphh, whine, whine] - she wasn't taking DNA samples, she was specifically taking prints. If she inadvertently placed one of her own there, and she probably didn't, then she would rule that out.
Not best practice probably, but not compromising anything.

I think the inference is that the Portuguese authorities did it.

Yeah, they dusted for prints, immediately recognised GM's and DW's  prints, and erased them, now how did they know which ones to erase were they on record and on a carry card in your pocket to instantly know who is who .

[Vertigo Swirl]

The PJ were not known for the care they took.  Fag Ash and Dog's Hairs all over the place.

That's really the only other explanation apart from:
1) Dianne Webster and Gerry wore gloves when they handled the shutter
2) They both lied about doing so.
3) Neither of them were born with fingerprints.
4) Their fingerprints were removed by themselves or sinister High-Ups.

Which explanation seems the most likely depends on your ability to think logically IMO. 

[The General]

The PJ were not known for the care they took.  Fag Ash and Dog's Hairs all over the place.

....yet not a trace of Madeleine's DNA. Someone was taking care, that's for sure.

[The General]

Yeah, they dusted for prints, immediately recognised GM's and DW's  prints, and erased them, now how did they know which ones to erase were they on record and on a carry card in your pocket to instantly know who is who .

Well that's the salient point here. Perhaps they had a hand held fingerprint scanner like off the telly and all that. Like sci fi, the future today, yesterday.

[Eleanor]

That's really the only other explanation apart from:
1) Dianne Webster and Gerry wore gloves when they handled the shutter
2) They both lied about doing so.
3) Neither of them were born with fingerprints.
4) Their fingerprints were removed by themselves or sinister High-Ups.

Which explanation seems the most likely depends on your ability to think logically IMO.

Carelessness. 

And the forensic person wasn't wearing any hair covering either.