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Offline faithlilly

Re: Gerry Mccann a freemason?
« Reply #60 on: August 14, 2022, 05:40:38 PM »
My point is that iOperation Grange is about Madeleine not her parents so how does your point stand exactly?  Is your point that all investigations into missing children depend only on the social standing of the parents?

Are there any other cold cases that have had this much expenditure lavished on them? Simple enough question.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Gerry Mccann a freemason?
« Reply #61 on: August 14, 2022, 05:47:40 PM »
Are there any other cold cases that have had this much expenditure lavished on them? Simple enough question.
I have no idea.  I asked a simple enough question which you ignored.  Who are you angry with btw?  The McCanns, Madeleine, the police or the government?  Or is it the masons?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline misty

Re: Gerry Mccann a freemason?
« Reply #62 on: August 14, 2022, 05:52:27 PM »
Are there any other cold cases that have had this much expenditure lavished on them? Simple enough question.

If Portugal had public CCTV, a criminal DNA database and a Sex Offender's Register in 2007 then I very much doubt UK would ever needed to launch Operation Grange with its associated costs.
How much did the Yorkshire Ripper cost the UK? It's probably not worth pointing out to you that the Lisbon Ripper was never caught.

Offline faithlilly

Re: Gerry Mccann a freemason?
« Reply #63 on: August 14, 2022, 05:55:57 PM »
If Portugal had public CCTV, a criminal DNA database and a Sex Offender's Register in 2007 then I very much doubt UK would ever needed to launch Operation Grange with its associated costs.
How much did the Yorkshire Ripper cost the UK? It's probably not worth pointing out to you that the Lisbon Ripper was never caught.

Thank you for the information but I’m not sure that any of it is relevant to my initial question.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline misty

Re: Gerry Mccann a freemason?
« Reply #64 on: August 14, 2022, 06:05:18 PM »
Thank you for the information but I’m not sure that any of it is relevant to my initial question.

OG is unlike any other cold case investigation undertaken by UK. The judicial restrictions mean that there are no precedents for cost comparison.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Gerry Mccann a freemason?
« Reply #65 on: August 14, 2022, 06:31:51 PM »
I believe in equal treatment for everyone. Every child is precious.

Now if you can point me to just one case where so much time, money and resources has been expended then I’ll concede my point. If not then my point stands.
The phone hacking case cost UK taxpayers £95m and no one even died or disappeared as a result of the crimes committed - money well spent iyo?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Gerry Mccann a freemason?
« Reply #66 on: August 14, 2022, 06:51:40 PM »
This case was the most expensive in Australian history and cost over $11 million and many many years to solve
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claremont_serial_killings#Investigation
Money wasted iyo?  I mean they got a conviction in the end but just think if they’d given up after only spending a million or so how many other unsolved murders that money could have been spent on!
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline faithlilly

Re: Gerry Mccann a freemason?
« Reply #67 on: August 14, 2022, 07:03:01 PM »
The phone hacking case cost UK taxpayers £95m and no one even died or disappeared as a result of the crimes committed - money well spent iyo?

I think you know that’s not comparable.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline faithlilly

Re: Gerry Mccann a freemason?
« Reply #68 on: August 14, 2022, 07:20:28 PM »
This case was the most expensive in Australian history and cost over $11 million and many many years to solve
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claremont_serial_killings#Investigation
Money wasted iyo?  I mean they got a conviction in the end but just think if they’d given up after only spending a million or so how many other unsolved murders that money could have been spent on!

Is $11 million dollars more than has been spent on OG?

Imagine child A was having millions of pounds spent on a her disappearance while Madeleine was being given limited funds. Would that be fair? Of course not yet this is the reality of several families.

Doesn’t every child deserve the same extensive investigation as Madeleine?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Gerry Mccann a freemason?
« Reply #69 on: August 14, 2022, 07:46:52 PM »
Is $11 million dollars more than has been spent on OG?

Imagine child A was having millions of pounds spent on a her disappearance while Madeleine was being given limited funds. Would that be fair? Of course not yet this is the reality of several families.

Doesn’t every child deserve the same extensive investigation as Madeleine?

More sceptic junk...according to sceptics there are thousands..no tens of thousands who haven't been looked for...shouldn't be difficult for you to come up with a dozen names

Offline Brietta

Re: Gerry Mccann a freemason?
« Reply #70 on: August 14, 2022, 08:46:42 PM »
OG is unlike any other cold case investigation undertaken by UK. The judicial restrictions mean that there are no precedents for cost comparison.

I would put money on it for certain sure that the Duarte Levy's of the bottom feeders of the internet have ever found the necessity of pondering whether or not the father of a missing child is a freemason.

Usually the focus is on the missing child.  In Madeleine's case let's not forget there was a time when the great discussion was not about her disappearance but whether she had actually ever existed.

Just as there being absolutely no precedents for cost comparison has there ever been a case where a clone has been used to dehumanise a missing child and to steal her identity?
I think that must be pretty much unprecedented too.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Brietta

Re: Gerry Mccann a freemason?
« Reply #71 on: August 14, 2022, 09:02:40 PM »
The phone hacking case cost UK taxpayers £95m and no one even died or disappeared as a result of the crimes committed - money well spent iyo?

Raising the question of money and phones.

In real terms how much personnel time was expended in ignoring all the calls which might have thrown up relevant lines of inquiry (as was definitely the case when Scotland Yard started investigating) and concentrating only on a few individuals to no investigative avail.

Was this the root of the Freemasonry suspicions and speculations.

I didn't know Freemasonry was illegal?  Is it?  What makes it so hideously awful that membership has been equated as being a horrid slur?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline G-Unit

Re: Gerry Mccann a freemason?
« Reply #72 on: August 14, 2022, 09:59:09 PM »
Raising the question of money and phones.

In real terms how much personnel time was expended in ignoring all the calls which might have thrown up relevant lines of inquiry (as was definitely the case when Scotland Yard started investigating) and concentrating only on a few individuals to no investigative avail.

Was this the root of the Freemasonry suspicions and speculations.

I didn't know Freemasonry was illegal?  Is it?  What makes it so hideously awful that membership has been equated as being a horrid slur?

Historically the Catholic Church has been an enemy of Freemasonry. Weren't Catholics forbidden to join?
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Offline sadie

Re: Gerry Mccann a freemason?
« Reply #73 on: August 14, 2022, 10:44:12 PM »
He did indeed Sadie.

Good for him.   Sadly, not many  around like him and my Dad these days.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Gerry Mccann a freemason?
« Reply #74 on: August 14, 2022, 11:31:26 PM »
I think you know that’s not comparable.
Explain why it is not comparable. 
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".