It has taken fifteen years ~ is Madeleine's case close to being solved?

[Wonderfulspam]

No.. I think you're a fool.. No end of a fool

Personal insults, we're resorting to that now are we.
Are there any modorators working today?
Personally I happen to really like you.

[Mr Gray]

Personal insults, we're resorting to that now are we.
Are there any modorators working today?
Personally I happen to really like you.

Tell you what petal.. I'll ban myself temporarily... Don't want to upset you

[Wonderfulspam]

Tell you what petal.. I'll ban myself temporarily... Don't want to upset you

Maybe come back when Wolters reveals the concrete evidence, you shouldn't have to wait too long....

[barrier]

Personal insults, we're resorting to that now are we.
Are there any modorators working today?
Personally I happen to really like you.

Only watching sceptic posting's.

[Eleanor]

The reality is he is building a case, take at face value if needed. I think we all do here. Will he be tried in portugal or germany? If charged, however do you think its rational and realistic that a foreign police force would spend time and money if they did not think their was something their. Op grange still has not released their files of certain things, a foreign police force certainly wont waste time on a foreign citizen in a different foreign country if they did not believe connections were there.

He would be charged in Germany.  The case is now out of the hands of Portugal and their incompetence.

Proving that it is possible to charge someone for a crime in a country where the crime wasn't committed.

Brueckner has already been convicted in Germany for a crime he committed in Portugal.

[misty]

He would be charged in Germany.  The case is now out of the hands of Portugal and their incompetence.

Proving that it is possible to charge someone for a crime in a country where the crime wasn't committed.

Brueckner has already been convicted in Germany for a crime he committed in Portugal.

If the case was out of the hands of the Portuguese then there would have been no legal requirement for them to have made CB an arguido at a minute before midnight. According to Portuguese law, the Statute of Limitations can only be extended if there is a reasonable prospect of the arguido being charged.
CB was charged in Germany, as a German citizen, for crimes he had committed in Portugal because a)he'd never been charged in Portugal in respect of any of those crimes & b)the Statute of Limitations in Portugal for those crimes had passed by the time he'd been identified as the probable offender.
Where Madeleine's case is concerned, he's the suspect/accused in 2 parallel investigations but hasn't yet been charged by either authority. Both authorities will need to apply to Italy for an EAW if they wish to bring charges in Madeleine#s case, since Italy is the last place he was a free man before his incarceration in Germany (for crimes in Germany). IMO this is how the "dirty tricks brigade" will attempt to undermine the BKA investigation and unfortunately I foresee a situation in which it may ultimately result in ECJ deciding which country CB should be tried in, notwithstanding Portugal's right to try him in absentia. CB also has the right to consent to be charged in Portugal rather than Germany. It's important to remember an EAW cannot be authorised in a case where a person has already been tried in another country for the same crime.

[Brietta]

If the case was out of the hands of the Portuguese then there would have been no legal requirement for them to have made CB an arguido at a minute before midnight. According to Portuguese law, the Statute of Limitations can only be extended if there is a reasonable prospect of the arguido being charged.
CB was charged in Germany, as a German citizen, for crimes he had committed in Portugal because a)he'd never been charged in Portugal in respect of any of those crimes & b)the Statute of Limitations in Portugal for those crimes had passed by the time he'd been identified as the probable offender.
Where Madeleine's case is concerned, he's the suspect/accused in 2 parallel investigations but hasn't yet been charged by either authority. Both authorities will need to apply to Italy for an EAW if they wish to bring charges in Madeleine#s case, since Italy is the last place he was a free man before his incarceration in Germany (for crimes in Germany). IMO this is how the "dirty tricks brigade" will attempt to undermine the BKA investigation and unfortunately I foresee a situation in which it may ultimately result in ECJ deciding which country CB should be tried in, notwithstanding Portugal's right to try him in absentia. CB also has the right to consent to be charged in Portugal rather than Germany. It's important to remember an EAW cannot be authorised in a case where a person has already been tried in another country for the same crime.

A very complicated situation, Misty.

My opinion is that "the dirty tricks brigade" may well have initiated their proceedings as soon as they got a sniff of the progress and direction of the BKA investigation.

[Vertigo Swirl]

If the case was out of the hands of the Portuguese then there would have been no legal requirement for them to have made CB an arguido at a minute before midnight. According to Portuguese law, the Statute of Limitations can only be extended if there is a reasonable prospect of the arguido being charged.
CB was charged in Germany, as a German citizen, for crimes he had committed in Portugal because a)he'd never been charged in Portugal in respect of any of those crimes & b)the Statute of Limitations in Portugal for those crimes had passed by the time he'd been identified as the probable offender.
Where Madeleine's case is concerned, he's the suspect/accused in 2 parallel investigations but hasn't yet been charged by either authority. Both authorities will need to apply to Italy for an EAW if they wish to bring charges in Madeleine#s case, since Italy is the last place he was a free man before his incarceration in Germany (for crimes in Germany). IMO this is how the "dirty tricks brigade" will attempt to undermine the BKA investigation and unfortunately I foresee a situation in which it may ultimately result in ECJ deciding which country CB should be tried in, notwithstanding Portugal's right to try him in absentia. CB also has the right to consent to be charged in Portugal rather than Germany. It's important to remember an EAW cannot be authorised in a case where a person has already been tried in another country for the same crime.

If he can choose to have his case heard in Portugal then he doesn't have anything to worry about, they all still think the McCanns dunnit it there apparently.

[Brietta]

If he can choose to have his case heard in Portugal then he doesn't have anything to worry about, they all still think the McCanns dunnit it there apparently.

I think a lot of Portuguese people have been given food for thought over the past couple of years.

What I found astonishing from Misty's post is that such a convicted perpetrator can elect in which jurisdiction to be tried for further crimes.

Mind you were I him, I would give serious thought to the fact that the protective custody he has in Germany might well ensure he lives to see a trial date.
I think there may well be vested interests in Portugal which have their own agenda on that one.

[Mr Gray]

If the case was out of the hands of the Portuguese then there would have been no legal requirement for them to have made CB an arguido at a minute before midnight. According to Portuguese law, the Statute of Limitations can only be extended if there is a reasonable prospect of the arguido being charged.
CB was charged in Germany, as a German citizen, for crimes he had committed in Portugal because a)he'd never been charged in Portugal in respect of any of those crimes & b)the Statute of Limitations in Portugal for those crimes had passed by the time he'd been identified as the probable offender.
Where Madeleine's case is concerned, he's the suspect/accused in 2 parallel investigations but hasn't yet been charged by either authority. Both authorities will need to apply to Italy for an EAW if they wish to bring charges in Madeleine#s case, since Italy is the last place he was a free man before his incarceration in Germany (for crimes in Germany). IMO this is how the "dirty tricks brigade" will attempt to undermine the BKA investigation and unfortunately I foresee a situation in which it may ultimately result in ECJ deciding which country CB should be tried in, notwithstanding Portugal's right to try him in absentia. CB also has the right to consent to be charged in Portugal rather than Germany. It's important to remember an EAW cannot be authorised in a case where a person has already been tried in another country for the same crime.

They would need evidence to extradite him to Portugal. Might be why the BKA are keeping to themselves

[Vertigo Swirl]

They would need evidence to extradite him to Portugal. Might be why the BKA are keeping to themselves

I’ve no doubt politcs has a part to play in why this has not yet come to trial.

[Rossb]

If the case was out of the hands of the Portuguese then there would have been no legal requirement for them to have made CB an arguido at a minute before midnight. According to Portuguese law, the Statute of Limitations can only be extended if there is a reasonable prospect of the arguido being charged.
CB was charged in Germany, as a German citizen, for crimes he had committed in Portugal because a)he'd never been charged in Portugal in respect of any of those crimes & b)the Statute of Limitations in Portugal for those crimes had passed by the time he'd been identified as the probable offender.
Where Madeleine's case is concerned, he's the suspect/accused in 2 parallel investigations but hasn't yet been charged by either authority. Both authorities will need to apply to Italy for an EAW if they wish to bring charges in Madeleine#s case, since Italy is the last place he was a free man before his incarceration in Germany (for crimes in Germany). IMO this is how the "dirty tricks brigade" will attempt to undermine the BKA investigation and unfortunately I foresee a situation in which it may ultimately result in ECJ deciding which country CB should be tried in, notwithstanding Portugal's right to try him in absentia. CB also has the right to consent to be charged in Portugal rather than Germany. It's important to remember an EAW cannot be authorised in a case where a person has already been tried in another country for the same crime.

Was cb an actual citizen of portugal, registered?

[misty]

Was cb an actual citizen of portugal, registered?

Yes, he had a Carta de Condução, which is a driving licence issued to people legally resident in Portugal.

[Eleanor]

I can agree about the further funding, but what is funding fpr helping to understand witness statements against bruckner or anyone else?

I agree its been a lengthy process, however a big mistake apparently wolters said in 2013 sent a letter to bruckner regarding mm and he disappeared. Their is something there to be found and im sorry it aint gonna be the parents . Maybe not bruckner but could have involvement.
People criticise the mccanns when she was advised by a solicitor not to answer. Bruckner was also questioned and made no comment. No logical thought process there.

There never is a logical thought process when it comes to someone who The Sceptics support.

So often Sceptics get caught out when they thought they knew better;

[misty]

They would need evidence to extradite him to Portugal. Might be why the BKA are keeping to themselves

PJ must have enough evidence to both make CB an arguido and convince the AttGen to extend the statute of limitations. The fact BKA have other evidence which they won't share with PJ at present is muddying the waters,