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Offline Carana

Re: Pamela Fenn
« Reply #60 on: May 17, 2013, 06:04:50 PM »
In an apartment near to the women... which women? In which apartment block? On which date? Where are these women's statements?

Was this an outcome of Jenny's stand?

It was Mrs Fenn, ringing Murat, or so he say's.  Who else has said a child was crying?

telling him that there was a child crying in an apartment near to them.


Dunno. Who are the "women" (plural) who had already been interviewed?

Spelling mistake I would say. Nothing new there. I presume the foreign woman is Mrs Fenn. She isn't Portuguese, is she?
The only other foreign woman is the locality is Jenny Murat.

Sorry? The ONLY other foreign woman in PdL is Jenny????

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Re: Pamela Fenn
« Reply #61 on: May 17, 2013, 06:11:57 PM »
In an apartment near to the women... which women? In which apartment block? On which date? Where are these women's statements?

Was this an outcome of Jenny's stand?

It was Mrs Fenn, ringing Murat, or so he say's.  Who else has said a child was crying?

telling him that there was a child crying in an apartment near to them.


Dunno. Who are the "women" (plural) who had already been interviewed?

Spelling mistake I would say. Nothing new there. I presume the foreign woman is Mrs Fenn. She isn't Portuguese, is she?
The only other foreign woman is the locality is Jenny Murat.

Sorry? The ONLY other foreign woman in PdL is Jenny????

Sorry Carana, but Murat said,  near to them, so isn't that the locality?
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Offline Carana

Re: Pamela Fenn
« Reply #62 on: May 17, 2013, 06:21:56 PM »

Sorry Carana, but Murat said,  near to them, so isn't that the locality?


Near to where the women had heard children crying was how I understood that. Could mean anything.
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Offline Benice

Re: Pamela Fenn
« Reply #63 on: May 17, 2013, 06:23:49 PM »
In an apartment near to the women... which women? In which apartment block? On which date? Where are these women's statements?

Was this an outcome of Jenny's stand?

It was Mrs Fenn, ringing Murat, or so he say's.  Who else has said a child was crying?

telling him that there was a child crying in an apartment near to them.


Dunno. Who are the "women" (plural) who had already been interviewed?

It couldn't be Mrs Fenn - she hadn't been interviewed by 16th May (Date of statement).


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Re: Pamela Fenn
« Reply #64 on: May 17, 2013, 06:25:31 PM »

Dunno. Who are the "women" (plural) who had already been interviewed?

It couldn't be Mrs Fenn - she hadn't been interviewed by 16th May (Date of statement).

Not according to Murat, Benice.

He does remember however, that on a day he cannot recall, an individual who identified himself as Robert, saying that he was in P da L as a translator helping the PJ, phoned the Lagos post saying:

That some foreign women, who had already been interviewed by the police, had phoned him, telling him that there was a child crying in an apartment near to them.

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« Reply #65 on: May 17, 2013, 06:39:42 PM »

Not according to Murat, Benice.

He does remember however, that on a day he cannot recall, an individual who identified himself as Robert, saying that he was in P da L as a translator helping the PJ, phoned the Lagos post saying:

That some foreign women, who had already been interviewed by the police, had phoned him, telling him that there was a child crying in an apartment near to them.

Near to WHOM? The missing child, where the women in question were staying, the Murats?

Something odd about this.

Where are the statements about this?
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Re: Pamela Fenn
« Reply #66 on: May 17, 2013, 06:51:40 PM »
Near to WHOM? The missing child, where the women in question were staying, the Murats?

Something odd about this.

Where are the statements about this?

No idea, Carana

Something odd alright.

Statement from GNR as above. There is not one other statement that says anything about a child crying. If you can find one, then I'll eat my hat.

I don't believe Mrs Fenn said any such thing, to be honest. Good that she couldn't understand or read Portuguese, don't you think. So who's lying. IMO, she was set up.

Murat translated some statements but not Mrs Fenn's.
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Re: Pamela Fenn
« Reply #67 on: May 17, 2013, 07:01:20 PM »

No idea, Carana

Something odd alright.

Statement from GNR as above. There is not one other statement that says anything about a child crying. If you can find one, then I'll eat my hat.

I don't believe Mrs Fenn said any such thing, to be honest. Good that she couldn't understand or read Portuguese, don't you think. So who's lying. IMO, she was set up.

Murat translated some statements but not Mrs Fenn's.

So. Murat passed on info to the GNR and it was never followed up? That's how it sounds to me at the moment.
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Re: Pamela Fenn
« Reply #68 on: May 17, 2013, 07:06:57 PM »

So. Murat passed on info to the GNR and it was never followed up? That's how it sounds to me at the moment.

Not so sure, Carana.
Why would he say "he was in P da L as a translator helping the PJ"? He lived there.
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Re: Pamela Fenn
« Reply #69 on: May 17, 2013, 08:48:27 PM »
Proven wrong where?

Very obviously by the time Mrs Fenn was interviewed, she was in no doubt the McCann family had been in the holiday apartment


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Re: Pamela Fenn
« Reply #70 on: May 17, 2013, 08:52:11 PM »
What I found most significant in Mrs Fenn's statement was the length of time she heard the crying for  ...  an hour and 15 minutes 

How does that fit in with the McCann's claim that they checked on the children every half hour  ?


It was never clarified who the child was, nor even whether it was just one child during that time. She really should have been reinterviewed, her friend interviewed to verify the date and time, and a sound reconstruction done.

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Re: Pamela Fenn
« Reply #71 on: May 17, 2013, 08:58:18 PM »
Proven wrong where?

Very obviously by the time Mrs Fenn was interviewed, she was in no doubt the McCann family had been in the holiday apartment


Well I suppose her SEEING and HEARING them in May is something which is very much pre post August and totally relevant as opposed to anything else at all and certainly nothing to do with some strange campaign of yours to make out she thought  the flat below hers was unoccupied at the time, she certainly did NOT, how many times does it have to be stated, dogs and bones? Again? Oh yes, but do carry on in futile postings on the subject for whatever your strange agenda is in this case

Do read her statement again FM, its very very clear meanwhile I will leave you to waste your time and others on this pointless subject
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Re: Pamela Fenn
« Reply #72 on: May 17, 2013, 08:59:01 PM »
What I found most significant in Mrs Fenn's statement was the length of time she heard the crying for  ...  an hour and 15 minutes 

How does that fit in with the McCann's claim that they checked on the children every half hour  ?


It was never clarified who the child was, nor even whether it was just one child during that time. She really should have been reinterviewed, her friend interviewed to verify the date and time, and a sound reconstruction done.

Was Mrs Fenn's friend Evilyn Glynn interviewed?

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Re: Pamela Fenn
« Reply #73 on: May 17, 2013, 08:59:15 PM »

What I found most significant in Mrs Fenn's statement was the length of time she heard the crying for  ...  an hour and 15 minutes 

How does that fit in with the McCann's claim that they checked on the children every half hour  ?


Can you honestly see a woman of Mrs Fenn's age, ignoring a child crying for that length of time?
I can't!
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Re: Pamela Fenn
« Reply #74 on: May 17, 2013, 09:01:47 PM »
Quote from: icabodcrane on April 11, 2013, 03:20:09 PM
What I found most significant in Mrs Fenn's statement was the length of time she heard the crying for  ...  an hour and 15 minutes 

How does that fit in with the McCann's claim that they checked on the children every half hour  ?

*** or any of their friends IF the crying came from next door to the Mccanns  or two doors down after that! Seems one or other  or more of them didnt do checks and also those that said they did checks for others didnt hear it either!!!

if a child directly below the mccanns apartment was crying for over an hour  I think its fair to say no one was checking on the kids and if they did the kid cried again after they left

And if mrs fenn heard the doors at 11.45 she would have heard them earlier
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