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Offline Eleanor

Re: Perceptions of Madeleine's Abduction
« Reply #420 on: July 01, 2022, 11:53:15 AM »
The statements remain as part of the body of evidence, whether or not people believe they are accurate.

All useless of course.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Perceptions of Madeleine's Abduction
« Reply #421 on: July 01, 2022, 12:14:56 PM »
And?  What about the memories of those who "have no reason to lie"?  Are they more reliable in your view?

They are at the very least entitled to be given as much credence as anyone else's.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Perceptions of Madeleine's Abduction
« Reply #422 on: July 01, 2022, 12:16:25 PM »
All useless of course.

Yes, in your opinion of course.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Perceptions of Madeleine's Abduction
« Reply #423 on: July 01, 2022, 12:22:25 PM »
Yes, in your opinion of course.

I am not alone of course.  Even The Portuguese Judiciary found it to be useless.  Along with Scotland Yard and The BKA.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Perceptions of Madeleine's Abduction
« Reply #424 on: July 01, 2022, 12:33:52 PM »
Yes, in your opinion of course.
And surely in yours as they did not help secure a conviction of those you consider to be the prime suspects, and nor will they ever do so - therefore useless surely?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline G-Unit

Re: Perceptions of Madeleine's Abduction
« Reply #425 on: July 01, 2022, 01:09:29 PM »
I am not alone of course.  Even The Portuguese Judiciary found it to be useless.  Along with Scotland Yard and The BKA.

The Portuguese Judiciary found they didn't have enough evidence to identify the crime or to bring charges. Operation Grange chose to interpret that as meaning the arguidos were wrongly suspected and proceeded to identify the crime without relying on evidence. The BKA followed suit.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Perceptions of Madeleine's Abduction
« Reply #426 on: July 01, 2022, 01:13:01 PM »
The Portuguese Judiciary found they didn't have enough evidence to identify the crime or to bring charges. Operation Grange chose to interpret that as meaning the arguidos were wrongly suspected and proceeded to identify the crime without relying on evidence. The BKA followed suit.
No they did not, they had information that implicated CB and worked from that point, they were never charged with investigating or eliminating the parents.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Perceptions of Madeleine's Abduction
« Reply #427 on: July 01, 2022, 01:14:09 PM »
The Portuguese Judiciary found they didn't have enough evidence to identify the crime or to bring charges. Operation Grange chose to interpret that as meaning the arguidos were wrongly suspected and proceeded to identify the crime without relying on evidence. The BKA followed suit.
So, do you think The Met never actually reviewed the case files?  Is that your belief and upon what do you base your beliefs?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Eleanor

Re: Perceptions of Madeleine's Abduction
« Reply #428 on: July 01, 2022, 01:22:41 PM »
The Portuguese Judiciary found they didn't have enough evidence to identify the crime or to bring charges. Operation Grange chose to interpret that as meaning the arguidos were wrongly suspected and proceeded to identify the crime without relying on evidence. The BKA followed suit.

Whatever happened to Innocent Until Proven Guilty?  But one thing is for certain sure.  Your biased opinion will never convict The McCanns.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Perceptions of Madeleine's Abduction
« Reply #429 on: July 01, 2022, 01:25:22 PM »
The Portuguese Judiciary found they didn't have enough evidence to identify the crime or to bring charges. Operation Grange chose to interpret that as meaning the arguidos were wrongly suspected and proceeded to identify the crime without relying on evidence. The BKA followed suit.
Just in case you don't realise that's your opinion and it's total  junk

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Perceptions of Madeleine's Abduction
« Reply #430 on: July 01, 2022, 01:26:59 PM »
The Portuguese Judiciary found they didn't have enough evidence to identify the crime or to bring charges. Operation Grange chose to interpret that as meaning the arguidos were wrongly suspected and proceeded to identify the crime without relying on evidence. The BKA followed suit.

I think it's absolutely laughable you believe such total junk

Offline G-Unit

Re: Perceptions of Madeleine's Abduction
« Reply #431 on: July 01, 2022, 01:35:55 PM »
And surely in yours as they did not help secure a conviction of those you consider to be the prime suspects, and nor will they ever do so - therefore useless surely?

It's still evidence which has to be taken into account by those who have the intention to investigate and charge someone. Careless statements cannot be relied on; remember how Redwood's announcement of a holidaymaker returning from the night creche was quickly questioned because the holidaymaker was walking towards the creche.

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Offline G-Unit

Re: Perceptions of Madeleine's Abduction
« Reply #432 on: July 01, 2022, 01:40:15 PM »
So, do you think The Met never actually reviewed the case files?  Is that your belief and upon what do you base your beliefs?

I don't know what they did but saying the man seen by Jane Tanner was leaving the night creche was a rookie mistake imo. Geography didn't seem to be one of Britain's finest's strong points.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Perceptions of Madeleine's Abduction
« Reply #433 on: July 01, 2022, 01:45:32 PM »
I don't know what they did but saying the man seen by Jane Tanner was leaving the night creche was a rookie mistake imo. Geography didn't seem to be one of Britain's finest's strong points.
I think you should have just stopped at "I don't know" if you wanted to be strictly accurate. 
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Perceptions of Madeleine's Abduction
« Reply #434 on: July 01, 2022, 02:44:42 PM »

You have to vaguely admire the use of semantics from someone who almost certainly didn't know the meaning of the word until recently.

Just don't ever expect a straight answer.