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Offline G-Unit

Re: Perceptions of Madeleine's Abduction
« Reply #435 on: July 01, 2022, 03:07:05 PM »
You have to vaguely admire the use of semantics from someone who almost certainly didn't know the meaning of the word until recently.

Just don't ever expect a straight answer.

The word seems to have become a favourite with some. As they never explain how it's applicable it's not clear if it's relevant or not. However. My opinion is that efficient detectives make sure they don't give out misleading information.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Perceptions of Madeleine's Abduction
« Reply #436 on: July 01, 2022, 03:12:46 PM »
The word seems to have become a favourite with some. As they never explain how it's applicable it's not clear if it's relevant or not. However. My opinion is that efficient detectives make sure they don't give out misleading information.

Wot?  Like Amaral do you mean?

The meaning of the word Semantics isn't difficult to understand.  Try Google.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Perceptions of Madeleine's Abduction
« Reply #437 on: July 01, 2022, 03:19:59 PM »
The word seems to have become a favourite with some. As they never explain how it's applicable it's not clear if it's relevant or not. However. My opinion is that efficient detectives make sure they don't give out misleading information.
What misleading information?  It's not incumbent on police to explain to the general public every detail of how they arrived at any given conclusion and for all we know there may be a perfectly valid explanation behind their decision to dismiss JT's sighting as a father returning from the creche.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline sadie

Re: Perceptions of Madeleine's Abduction
« Reply #438 on: July 01, 2022, 03:47:16 PM »
You suggested he was 'enjoying sea views', not me.

I thought thta you were reasonably intelligent and would understand that he wanted to appear as tho he was enjoying the view whilst he had a fag or two.   Maybe you didn't read it properly.

He wanted to appear like that so that if anyone noticed him, there was nothing to alert them that there was anything odd about him.  Nothing to alert them that he was a watcher.

Offline sadie

Re: Perceptions of Madeleine's Abduction
« Reply #439 on: July 01, 2022, 03:55:54 PM »
As demonstrated by the differences in the statements of Gerry McCann, Jane Tanner and Jez Wilkins. Other examples can be seen in the statements of the T9 concerning the visit to the beach on 3rd and the times relating to the men's involvement in the tennis that evening. Fiona Payne was sure that all four men were actually playing tennis at 6.30pm when she arrived back from the beach, but her husband was away from the tennis courts visiting 5A at 6.40pm and then visited his own apartment before returning. Clearly her memory wasn't reliable.

So ?

Playing tennis at 6.30pm.  At 5A (less than a minute away) at 6.40pm    Ten minutes to walk a one minute walk.


What's untrue about that ?

Nothing.   You're just trouble making, Gunit, or so it appears.

Offline sadie

Re: Perceptions of Madeleine's Abduction
« Reply #440 on: July 01, 2022, 04:00:00 PM »
The statements remain as part of the body of evidence, whether or not people believe they are accurate.

They were written in a foreign language that none of the group understood.   If The Law thinks that is OK in Portugal, it needs a good kick up the backside.

Oh, excuse me.    8**8:/:

Offline G-Unit

Re: Perceptions of Madeleine's Abduction
« Reply #441 on: July 01, 2022, 05:17:44 PM »
Wot?  Like Amaral do you mean?

The meaning of the word Semantics isn't difficult to understand.  Try Google.

I know the meaning of the word, but not how and why you think it applies to my post.
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Re: Perceptions of Madeleine's Abduction
« Reply #442 on: July 01, 2022, 05:20:38 PM »
What misleading information?  It's not incumbent on police to explain to the general public every detail of how they arrived at any given conclusion and for all we know there may be a perfectly valid explanation behind their decision to dismiss JT's sighting as a father returning from the creche.

The police chose to give out an explanation that didn't make sense. Why, then, should I trust them to know what they're doing despite that?
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Perceptions of Madeleine's Abduction
« Reply #443 on: July 01, 2022, 05:34:50 PM »
The police chose to give out an explanation that didn't make sense. Why, then, should I trust them to know what they're doing despite that?

Has Amaral consistently given out information that was incorrect?

Offline G-Unit

Re: Perceptions of Madeleine's Abduction
« Reply #444 on: July 01, 2022, 05:35:53 PM »
So ?

Playing tennis at 6.30pm.  At 5A (less than a minute away) at 6.40pm    Ten minutes to walk a one minute walk.


What's untrue about that ?

Nothing.   You're just trouble making, Gunit, or so it appears.

The fallibilty of memory, Sadie.

Fiona said she watched her husband play tennis from 6.30 to 7pm. She didn't. At 6.36 she was still sitting in the Paraiso.



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Offline G-Unit

Re: Perceptions of Madeleine's Abduction
« Reply #445 on: July 01, 2022, 05:38:42 PM »
Has Amaral consistently given out information that was incorrect?

Not when he was a serving police officer.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Perceptions of Madeleine's Abduction
« Reply #446 on: July 01, 2022, 05:39:32 PM »
The police chose to give out an explanation that didn't make sense. Why, then, should I trust them to know what they're doing despite that?

Might not of made sense to you because of your bias.. Made perfect sense to me. You haven't actually given an accurate account of what they said.

The PJ didn't understand  the alerts or thr dna... So why should we trust their ability to take an accurate statement

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Perceptions of Madeleine's Abduction
« Reply #447 on: July 01, 2022, 05:39:43 PM »
The police chose to give out an explanation that didn't make sense. Why, then, should I trust them to know what they're doing despite that?
As I said in my post they don’t owe you an explanation therefore you can’t know whether it makes sense or not because you don’t know everything that they know about it.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Perceptions of Madeleine's Abduction
« Reply #448 on: July 01, 2022, 05:40:29 PM »
Not when he was a serving police officer.

According to SF.. He was.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Perceptions of Madeleine's Abduction
« Reply #449 on: July 01, 2022, 05:42:42 PM »
The fallibilty of memory, Sadie.

Fiona said she watched her husband play tennis from 6.30 to 7pm. She didn't. At 6.36 she was still sitting in the Paraiso.


Out of interest how can you tell who is in that picture?  Which one is FP?
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