Perceptions of Madeleine's Abduction

[G-Unit]

presumably by using the powers of logic and deduction which obviously the previous investigation had a shortage of.

So you don't know the answer, you merely presume they've got it right.

[Vertigo Swirl]

So you don't know the answer, you merely presume they've got it right.

How would you expect me to know the answer?  But I do know this - abduction is the only plausible and logical explanation for Madeleine's disappearance when taking into account all the information we know about the case.

[Eleanor]

How would you expect me to know the answer?  But I do know this - abduction is the only plausible and logical explanation for Madeleine's disappearance when taking into account all the information we know about the case.

Logic seems to come so very hard to some people/. This whole case has always been about Logic.  But if they haven't worked that one out yet, then they never will.

[Mr Gray]

So you don't know the answer, you merely presume they've got it right.

It's your opinion they haven't... Just your opinion.  I would say based on a proper understanding of all the evidence by a mile the most probable explanation is stranger abduction. The Portuguese did not understand the evidence... Appalling

[sadie]

This is when he ate at the Tapas restaurant
https://mccannpjfiles.co.uk/T/03_VOLUME_IIIa_Page_606.jpg

Fiddling again or is it a genuine mistake?


https://mccannpjfiles.co.uk/T/03_VOLUME_IIIa_Page_606.jpg




Did Madeleine vanish on the ninth?  I always thought it was on the third   

[sadie]

My maths isn't too hot despite getting a First at Oxford, but does G4N (?) definitely mean he stayed at that Block 4 flat number?

Did you get a first?  Well done.

[sadie]

Why would anyone be going to Block 6? If it was Totman he was staying in Block 4, to the west of Block 5.

No he was not.  He was staying in block 6.  We all know that.  This has been gone over many times and eaxmined thoroughly

Total fabrication.   And done in a grand manner.  Even newspaper articles have been changed

This is the first one I came across and someone has added a yellow bit to the image to falsely give the impression that The Totmans stayed at block 4


But they forget to read the text.  Sloppy!


https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6225547/madeleine-mccann-gp-sighting-waste/


^  For some reason this is refusing to open. ^  Why?

[snip]
But one retired Met Police detective, who visited the resort with The Sun, is convinced Jane Tanner saw the real abductor.

Ian Horrocks said the man Ms Tanner saw had been walking from west to east, while Dr Totman would have gone the opposite way.

He added: “The police seemingly dismissed this sighting after discovering the account of the British holidaymaker taking his daughter back to their apartment.

“I cannot see how it can be totally dismissed.” [/snip]

Ian Horrocks used his logic.  He also confirmed that Totman, walking West to East had passed block 4 if he was at the junction with the road that Jane was on; where she saw him going in an easterly direction.  From West to East.

Totman was staying in block 6

[G-Unit]

No he was not.  He was staying in block 6.  We all know that.  This has been gone over many times and eaxmined thoroughly

Total fabrication.   And done in a grand manner.  Even newspaper articles have been changed

This is the first one I came across and someone has added a yellow bit to the image to falsely give the impression that The Totmans stayed at block 4


But they forget to read the text.  Sloppy!


https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6225547/madeleine-mccann-gp-sighting-waste/


^  For some reason this is refusing to open. ^  Why?



Ian Horrocks used his logic.  He also confirmed that Totman, walking West to East had passed block 4 if he was at the junction with the road that Jane was on; where she saw him going in an easterly direction.  From West to East.

Totman was staying in block 6

Are you suggesting that Mark Warner didn't know where Totman was staying? This is from their computerised guest list.
https://mccannpjfiles.co.uk/T/03_VOLUME_IIIa_Page_611.jpg

[sadie]

Are you suggesting that Mark Warner didn't know where Totman was staying? This is from their computerised guest list.
https://mccannpjfiles.co.uk/T/03_VOLUME_IIIa_Page_611.jpg

Oh really?

Two posts within 3 hours both giving out disinformation.   Both attempting to alter evidence.

Time for you to go, Gunit ... or alternatively to be reported to OG  Imo .... unless you can give satisfactory reasons why you keep providing the false stuff.

Is someone feeding it to you?

This is happening too often.

[G-Unit]

It's your opinion they haven't... Just your opinion.  I would say based on a proper understanding of all the evidence by a mile the most probable explanation is stranger abduction. The Portuguese did not understand the evidence... Appalling

Another one simply assuming that Op Grange got it right.

[jassi]

Oh really?

Two posts within 3 hours both giving out disinformation.   Both attempting to alter evidence.

Time for you to go, Gunit ... or alternatively to be reported to OG  Imo .... unless you can give satisfactory reasons why you keep providing the false stuff.

Is someone feeding it to you?

This is happening too often.

Where is your evidence that G-unit is wrong ?

[Mr Gray]

Another one simply assuming that Op Grange got it right.

I'm assuming nothing..how could the Portuguese reach a valid opinion when they did not understand  the evidence.. That's a fact.. Not an assumption

[sadie]

Are you suggesting that Mark Warner didn't know where Totman was staying? This is from their computerised guest list.
https://mccannpjfiles.co.uk/T/03_VOLUME_IIIa_Page_611.jpg

The above list was for the 9th of May.  Madeleine vanished on the 3rd May.   

The Totmans arrived on 28th April according to:

https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t15166-the-mccann-totman-weinberger-nexus  (much as I hate to use this forum I found the items below interesting.)

They stayed for a fortnight, but were only in block 4 for the second week.  Madeleine vanished during the first week of their stay.  It doesn't state where they stayed for the first week but they must have been staying at OC as they used the creche facilities that week also.   Seems likiely that they were staying in block 6 as we have been lead to believe earlier.   I can see no reason to disbelieve this, can you?

Presumably they wanted to be near friends.


What I am suggesting is that you have presented a page that is from the wrong date, giving false info for the correct date.   Was this deliberate?


You need to put it right.  Alter your posts.  And Myster or any other posters who have used it and created a myth.
Please be fair and do that.

[sadie]

Where is your evidence that G-unit is wrong ?

Read the posts and you will see.

[Myster]

The above list was for the 9th of May.  Madeleine vanished on the 3rd May.   

The Totmans arrived on 28th April according to:

https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t15166-the-mccann-totman-weinberger-nexus  (much as I hate to use this forum I found the items below interesting.)

They stayed for a fortnight, but were only in block 4 for the second week.  Madeleine vanished during the first week of their stay.  It doesn't state where they stayed for the first week but they must have been staying at OC as they used the creche facilities that week also.   Seems likiely that they were staying in block 6 as we have been lead to believe earlier.   I can see no reason to disbelieve this, can you?

Presumably they wanted to be near friends.


What I am suggesting is that you have presented a page that is from the wrong date, giving false info for the correct date.   Was this deliberate?


You need to put it right.  Alter your posts.  And Myster or any other posters who have used it and created a myth.
Please be fair and do that.

Instead of relying on Bennett's BS, the actual record which G-Unit provided says that Totman arrived on the 29th.April and departed on the 5th.May, staying in Block 4 (G4M T2) for that FIRST week.