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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Perceptions of Madeleine's Abduction
« Reply #705 on: July 09, 2022, 09:39:57 AM »
they obviously dont have to..the burden of proof is on the defendant...gunit cant seem to grasp that simple fact.
I seem to recall Jason Donovan sued a magazine for suggesting he was homosexual.  I wonder how he proved to the court's satisfaction that he wasn't.  It doesn't really bear thinking about!
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Perceptions of Madeleine's Abduction
« Reply #706 on: July 09, 2022, 09:55:38 AM »
I seem to recall Jason Donovan sued a magazine for suggesting he was homosexual.  I wonder how he proved to the court's satisfaction that he wasn't.  It doesn't really bear thinking about!

Don't worry, he didn't need to prove he wasn't homosexual. The magazine's claim was that he was a liar and a hypocrite because he presented himself as straight. It was that statement that was ruled to be defamatory, not the statement that he was homosexual.
https://www.lawteacher.net/cases/donovan-v-the-face.php
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Perceptions of Madeleine's Abduction
« Reply #707 on: July 09, 2022, 10:01:52 AM »
Don't worry, he didn't need to prove he wasn't homosexual. The magazine's claim was that he was a liar and a hypocrite because he presented himself as straight. It was that statement that was ruled to be defamatory, not the statement that he was homosexual.
https://www.lawteacher.net/cases/donovan-v-the-face.php
Erm, by your assertion Donovan would have to prove he wasn't a liar and a hypocrite.  Please explain how he did this?
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Offline barrier

Re: Perceptions of Madeleine's Abduction
« Reply #708 on: July 09, 2022, 10:05:36 AM »
Gunit's Comments are a treasure alright.   @)(++(*

Good to see you don't see Gray's as such.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Perceptions of Madeleine's Abduction
« Reply #709 on: July 09, 2022, 10:10:27 AM »
Good to see you don't see Gray's as such.

Don't be ridiculous.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Perceptions of Madeleine's Abduction
« Reply #710 on: July 09, 2022, 10:21:44 AM »
Erm, by your assertion Donovan would have to prove he wasn't a liar and a hypocrite.  Please explain how he did this?

Not my assertions, those of the website I quoted. May I suggest a revolutionary idea? You could try looking up the case yourself if you want to dispute my cite.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Perceptions of Madeleine's Abduction
« Reply #711 on: July 09, 2022, 10:28:01 AM »
Not my assertions, those of the website I quoted. May I suggest a revolutionary idea? You could try looking up the case yourself if you want to dispute my cite.
So you can't answer my question.  Fair enough.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Perceptions of Madeleine's Abduction
« Reply #712 on: July 09, 2022, 10:58:12 AM »
So you can't answer my question.  Fair enough.

Why should I? If you wish to add to your knowledge it's not up to me to teach you. Answer your own questions.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Perceptions of Madeleine's Abduction
« Reply #713 on: July 09, 2022, 11:05:24 AM »
Why should I? If you wish to add to your knowledge it's not up to me to teach you. Answer your own questions.
LOL - you seemed verrrrrry keen on educating us earlier though...?
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Perceptions of Madeleine's Abduction
« Reply #714 on: July 09, 2022, 11:09:30 AM »
Here are the actual facts;

The principal practical difference between claims for libel and claims for slander is what a claimant must prove to succeed in his or her claim.
https://www.humphreys.co.uk/articles/defamation-elements-of-a-claim/

The claimant being the one who sues and it's the claimant who has to provide the proof. Wrong again!
What proof would Christian Bruckner need to supply to win a claim of libel against the British Media who have suggested he may be involved in Madeleine's disappearance?
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Perceptions of Madeleine's Abduction
« Reply #715 on: July 09, 2022, 11:10:01 AM »
LOL - you seemed verrrrrry keen on educating us earlier though...?

Incorrectly, as it happens.

Offline barrier

Re: Perceptions of Madeleine's Abduction
« Reply #716 on: July 09, 2022, 11:22:43 AM »
Don't be ridiculous.

The backsliding is self evident.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Perceptions of Madeleine's Abduction
« Reply #717 on: July 09, 2022, 11:25:31 AM »
The backsliding is self evident.

Even more ridiculous.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Perceptions of Madeleine's Abduction
« Reply #718 on: July 09, 2022, 11:25:49 AM »
LOL - you seemed verrrrrry keen on educating us earlier though...?

That's my view on a point raised, nothing to do with educating anyone.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Perceptions of Madeleine's Abduction
« Reply #719 on: July 09, 2022, 11:55:02 AM »
That's my view on a point raised, nothing to do with educating anyone.
Yes it was - you were "correcting" us on points of libel law, as you perceived it.  IMO you do rather set yourself up as an educator of us lesser beings, or try to at any rate...
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