Perceptions of Madeleine's Abduction

[G-Unit]

That's a criminal not civil case

So guilt can be pronounced without a trial in civil cases?

[Mr Gray]

It seems that accusations of libel by the McCanns, Smethurst, Carter Ruck and the McCann's supporters remain "merely" that; accusations.

A lot of people think German judges won't be swayed by the public accusations levelled at CB, but at least two of our English judges have demonstrated their willingness to believe unconfirmed "facts" such as an abduction having taken place.

you do post a lot of junk sometimes and show how little you understand libel law. the judges rule on the facts in the case. is the claim libellous ...yes. Is bennett defending it,...NO. In fact bennett has no defence. The Judges HAVE NOT DEMONSTRATED they beleive in abduction...that is a totally false statement

[Mr Gray]

So guilt can be pronounced without a trial in civil cases?

In  a libel case in the UK....making a statement implying criminal acts is classed as libel...its up to the person making the claim to prove it isnt. the burden of proof is on bennett. Do you really not understand that

[G-Unit]

In  a libel case in the UK....making a statement implying criminal acts is classed as libel...its up to the person making the claim to prove it isnt. the burden of proof is on bennett. Do you really not understand that

The trial ascertains whether the alleged libel can be defended. Public interest is one possible defence. Until such proceedings not even a judge can pronounce guilt, only allege it.

[Mr Gray]

The trial ascertains whether the alleged libel can be defended. Public interest is one possible defence. Until such proceedings not even a judge can pronounce guilt, only allege it.

You say the alleged libel.. Its not alleged... It's a fact.. Unless proven otherwise

[G-Unit]

You say the alleged libel.. Its not alleged... It's a fact.. Unless proven otherwise

Isn't there a difference between accusing someone of committing a crime and suggesting that there are reasons to doubt what someone is saying?

I can't see any direct accusations in Mr Bennetts leaflet; "60 reasons which suggest that she was not abducted" (i.e Madeleine McCann)

[Mr Gray]

Isn't there a difference between accusing someone of committing a crime and suggesting that there are reasons to doubt what someone is saying?

I can't see any direct accusations in Mr Bennetts leaflet; "60 reasons which suggest that she was not abducted" (i.e Madeleine McCann)

So you think Bennett's accusations were not libellous.. Perhaps you just don't understand what libel is

[Eleanor]

Back to Libellous Innuendo.

Why did Mr. Bennett not go to Trial and defend himself?

[Brietta]

Isn't there a difference between accusing someone of committing a crime and suggesting that there are reasons to doubt what someone is saying?

I can't see any direct accusations in Mr Bennetts leaflet; "60 reasons which suggest that she was not abducted" (i.e Madeleine McCann)

I am absolutely incredulous at your dragging out totally discredited ancient theories penned by equally absolutely discredited authors in your absolute eagerness to slur Madeleine's parents.

I am also at a total loss regarding your reasons for your persistence in displaying your abject ignorance of what constitutes libels while ignoring the facts that

• events have progressed since the horrendously mismanaged investigation into the abduction of a three year old and unsurprisingly there is no suspicion that her parents had any culpability in any way, shape or form from any other than adherents of the bizarre whom you have elected to defend.
• the British SY continues to justify receipt of the annual funding granted to them for as long as there is an active case in progress.
  They got the money yet again this year, so by definition they continue to work on Madeleine's abduction.
  The fact they have a convicted paedophile - burglar - rapist  in the frame as their prime suspect gives the lie to the absurd belief you promulgate day and daily herein.
• the Portuguese PJ have named the same suspect as their prime suspect.  Apparently they do not subscribe as you do to Mr B's 60 meanderings so insidiously linked to in your post or even the 100 ravings from the same stable which pollute the internet.
• the German BKA have also named the same criminal as their prime suspect in Madeleine's abduction and are at the moment taking steps to prosecute him for other heinous crimes as detailed in the files which his defence lawyers are presently working through.
  
  As with SY and PJ it seems the German BKA have long since disowned the planks of libel and innuendo so long nursed and sustained by a motley crew of sceptics and self proclaimed truth seekers and abduction deniers.

It is actually mildly amusing to read through B's particular bunch of raison d'etres for his libels all of which remain on the record, to find that everything without exception originated from the fevered brain of a corrupt Portuguese police officer.

I think that promotes him from "office boy" to "Cult leader";  you might want to give that some thought.

[G-Unit]

So you think Bennett's accusations were not libellous.. Perhaps you just don't understand what libel is

Where are these criminal accusations?
http://genreith.de/MMcC/bennet-text-1.pdf

[Brietta]

Where are these criminal accusations?
http://genreith.de/MMcC/bennet-text-1.pdf

I understand you have added membership of another forum to your tally.

I understand the standards regarding libel or libellous links are seriously upheld there.

Can you think of any reason why you would not post that link there but think nothing of propelling this forum into disrepute by posting it here.

[Eleanor]

This is all rather sad.  And such a waste of someone's time and money.

[Vertigo Swirl]

So no need for a trial in some cases then? How strange. Even when someone is found standing over a blood-soaked body holding the murder weapon dripping blood a trial is held.

you are being ridiculous.  You can take out a restraining order on someone who persistently harasses or stalks you without the need for them to be found guilty in a court of law first. Does that mean the person who is being restrained is not guilty of harassing or stalking?

[Mr Gray]

Where are these criminal accusations?
http://genreith.de/MMcC/bennet-text-1.pdf

You only need to read it. The whole booklet questions the mccanns honesty and it says it supports the theory of Amaral. Thats clear libel

[Mr Gray]

Isn't there a difference between accusing someone of committing a crime and suggesting that there are reasons to doubt what someone is saying?

I can't see any direct accusations in Mr Bennetts leaflet; "60 reasons which suggest that she was not abducted" (i.e Madeleine McCann)

the accusations can be implied...you real dont understand libel law.