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Offline G-Unit

Re: Madeleine McCann suspect named as Christian Brueckner
« Reply #195 on: September 04, 2022, 12:08:21 PM »
He already has been

But not by evidence. He's been linked to the crime only by the words of another criminal and an over-excited prosecutor.
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Re: Madeleine McCann suspect named as Christian Brueckner
« Reply #196 on: September 04, 2022, 12:21:36 PM »
I have never been 100% convinced so that’s where you are wrong on the first count.  On the second count you are twisting what I wrote.  I am not disappointed that an innocent man will no longer be accused, I am disappointed that years of hard investigative work may come to nothing and there may never be a resolution to this case.  Can you see the he difference?  Probably not!  Of course this makes me morally bankrupt I expect you agree with that.

Maybe you weren't 100% convinced, but you chose to close your eyes and ears to the lack of evidence which was gradually revealed. Had you been sceptical you might have been more prepared to be disappointed.
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« Reply #197 on: September 04, 2022, 12:24:58 PM »
But not by evidence. He's been linked to the crime only by the words of another criminal and an over-excited prosecutor.

Ah, but Brueckner did say to some paedo in a chat room that he'd murdered Maddie & destroyed the evidence.
That'll be why Brueckner is so confident he won't be serving time for Maddie, because he destroyed the evidence & definitely not because he simply had no involvement whatsoever Madeleine's dissappeance.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Madeleine McCann suspect named as Christian Brueckner
« Reply #198 on: September 04, 2022, 12:25:22 PM »
But not by evidence. He's been linked to the crime only by the words of another criminal and an over-excited prosecutor.

Are you so ignorant you don't understand that the words from an informant are evidence admissible in court....
How do you know what the prosecutors opinion are based on. You have decided he's over-excited and dismissed the evidence he claims to have.

Your post is pure opinion which you are convinced is fact...which I see as pure junk

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Re: Madeleine McCann suspect named as Christian Brueckner
« Reply #199 on: September 04, 2022, 12:31:16 PM »
Are you so ignorant you don't understand that the words from an informant are evidence admissible in court....
How do you know what the prosecutors opinion are based on. You have decided he's over-excited and dismissed the evidence he claims to have.

Your post is pure opinion which you are convinced is fact...which I see as pure junk

Maybe the evidence he claims to have will result in charges sometime. Just not any time in the foreseeable future though.
Doesn't say much for his evidence really.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Madeleine McCann suspect named as Christian Brueckner
« Reply #200 on: September 04, 2022, 01:23:18 PM »
Are you so ignorant you don't understand that the words from an informant are evidence admissible in court....
How do you know what the prosecutors opinion are based on. You have decided he's over-excited and dismissed the evidence he claims to have.

Your post is pure opinion which you are convinced is fact...which I see as pure junk

So the informant tells the court that CB told him he did it. CB tells the court he said no such thing. Neither are reliable witnesses and the nine year delay in informing the authorities needs to be convincingly explained.
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Offline Mr Gray

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« Reply #201 on: September 04, 2022, 01:26:46 PM »
So the informant tells the court that CB told him he did it. CB tells the court he said no such thing. Neither are reliable witnesses and the nine year delay in informing the authorities needs to be convincingly explained.

You said there was no evidence...you now admit there is and you were wrong....it's tiresome having to continually having to point out your mistakes

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Re: Madeleine McCann suspect named as Christian Brueckner
« Reply #202 on: September 04, 2022, 02:04:41 PM »
You said there was no evidence...you now admit there is and you were wrong....it's tiresome having to continually having to point out your mistakes

So sorry. The last thing I want is for you to have to make any effort. I do try to be clear and apologise for not emphasising that I was referring to useful evidence.
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« Reply #203 on: September 04, 2022, 02:45:03 PM »
So sorry. The last thing I want is for you to have to make any effort. I do try to be clear and apologise for not emphasising that I was referring to useful evidence.

so you accept that you were wrong and that   there is evidence but in your opinion its not useful....... Im sure you will find out you are wrong there too. If CB is convicted of any serious crime as a result of this evidence you would have to agree its been very useful

Offline Brietta

Re: Madeleine McCann suspect named as Christian Brueckner
« Reply #204 on: September 04, 2022, 03:35:12 PM »
Innocent in relation to harming Madeleine, not innocent of other crimes.
Of course he is not innocent of many other crimes.  Most of which we will never know about.  German prosecutors are obviously anxious not to replicate the mistakes of the past.  They have evidence which points to Brueckner's involvement in Madeleine's abduction and intend to test that at the optimum time.

Brueckner's guilt or innocence will be determined in a German court or perhaps even a Portuguese one.  Internet fora detectives won't have a role in that however hard they try.

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For the Braunschweig public prosecutor's office, it is clear: 45-year-old Christian B. from Würzburg is the kidnapper and murderer of Maddie McCann. They want to be able to prove it and will have to do so in the process. Christian B. is currently serving another prison sentence. Five years for raping a 72-year-old American woman. Done in the Algarve, Portugal, in 2005. A holiday paradise.

Christian B. had literally fled there in 1995. In front of the German judiciary, which at that time lost sight of a dangerous sex offender.

Christian B. was 20 years old.

He had just come out of prison.

He was there for two years.
Because of attempted and successful abuse of children.

One six years old, the other 9 years old.

Christian B. was only 17 years old at the time of the crimes.

In other cases, an offender could have hoped for a suspended sentence. But here the judge remained tough. For two reasons:

The second abuse happened only three days before the start of the trial.

This is not how anyone behaves who regrets or at least is afraid of justice.

The court expert also saw it that way and came to the conclusion that 17-year-old Christian B. was still dangerous. One must expect further deeds. It was also a warning to the judiciary, the authorities and also society. It went unheard.

One might have expected to take care of the young man after imprisonment, keeping an eye on him at best, but far from it.
Christian B. moves to Portugal and will commit further acts there. Completely undisturbed and unobserved. And in Germany, apparently, no one wondered where the dangerous sex offender had gone.

https://www.rtl.de/cms/doku-verdaechtig-im-fall-maddie-wer-ist-christian-b-deckt-auf-wie-polizei-und-justiz-versagt-haben-4907463.html

This set of circumstances has been flagged up by the author as one of the major derelictions in the kidnap case of Madeleine McCann by allowing a dangerous and known sexual predator free licence to offend at will and off radar.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Brietta

Re: Madeleine McCann suspect named as Christian Brueckner
« Reply #205 on: September 04, 2022, 03:45:46 PM »
But not by evidence. He's been linked to the crime only by the words of another criminal and an over-excited prosecutor.

Your ignorance is appalling.  You have absolutely no idea what evidence there is linking Brueckner to the crime against Madeleine of any other of which he is accused.  Best for you to do what most everyone else is ~ which is to wait for the conclusion of the criminal cases against him.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Brietta

Re: Madeleine McCann suspect named as Christian Brueckner
« Reply #206 on: September 04, 2022, 04:03:40 PM »
Brueckner chose well when he left Germany for pastures new in Portugal and throughout his time there made a good living from his criminal activities.
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The Algarve - a paradise for criminals?
Sandra Felgueiras is a TV journalist in Portugal. She researches the Maddie case from the very beginning. For 15 years – and paints a frightening picture of their own homeland.

"The image I have of Christian B. is that of a criminal teenager who came to Portugal and did a lot of things that are intolerable. But the system was not attuned to this kind of crime. I found out that the Algarve had an eerie side. With many strangers coming and going. No one knew where they were. Many lived in motorhomes."

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

In Portugal, Christian B. works as a waiter, bartender and fitter.

Sometimes he also sells cars from Germany.

But he earns most of his money illegally.
With burglaries. With diesel theft on a grand scale.
Manfred Seyfehrt met the young man by chance and described it as follows: "Burglaries, solar panels, diesel. That was the main business in the Algarve. He really made money there, not like us. They stole diesel barrels and emptied trucks. Money was there with them."

All this goes well for years. The police seem completely overwhelmed.

https://www.rtl.de/cms/doku-verdaechtig-im-fall-maddie-wer-ist-christian-b-deckt-auf-wie-polizei-und-justiz-versagt-haben-4907463.html
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Madeleine McCann suspect named as Christian Brueckner
« Reply #207 on: September 04, 2022, 04:26:42 PM »
Your ignorance is appalling.  You have absolutely no idea what evidence there is linking Brueckner to the crime against Madeleine of any other of which he is accused.  Best for you to do what most everyone else is ~ which is to wait for the conclusion of the criminal cases against him.

You're thinking he'll actually be charged some day re Maddie?  Then you'll be waiting a long time imo.
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Madeleine McCann suspect named as Christian Brueckner
« Reply #208 on: September 04, 2022, 05:10:34 PM »
Just got to get these other cases dealt with first, isn't it.
Just over the horizon lies the promised land of finally proving Maddie was actually abducted.
Not much further now guys, just be patient.
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Madeleine McCann suspect named as Christian Brueckner
« Reply #209 on: September 04, 2022, 05:18:16 PM »
Of course he is not innocent of many other crimes.  Most of which we will never know about.  German prosecutors are obviously anxious not to replicate the mistakes of the past.  They have evidence which points to Brueckner's involvement in Madeleine's abduction and intend to test that at the optimum time.

Brueckner's guilt or innocence will be determined in a German court or perhaps even a Portuguese one.  Internet fora detectives won't have a role in that however hard they try.

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For the Braunschweig public prosecutor's office, it is clear: 45-year-old Christian B. from Würzburg is the kidnapper and murderer of Maddie McCann. They want to be able to prove it and will have to do so in the process. Christian B. is currently serving another prison sentence. Five years for raping a 72-year-old American woman. Done in the Algarve, Portugal, in 2005. A holiday paradise.

Christian B. had literally fled there in 1995. In front of the German judiciary, which at that time lost sight of a dangerous sex offender.

Christian B. was 20 years old.

He had just come out of prison.

He was there for two years.
Because of attempted and successful abuse of children.

One six years old, the other 9 years old.

Christian B. was only 17 years old at the time of the crimes.

In other cases, an offender could have hoped for a suspended sentence. But here the judge remained tough. For two reasons:

The second abuse happened only three days before the start of the trial.

This is not how anyone behaves who regrets or at least is afraid of justice.

The court expert also saw it that way and came to the conclusion that 17-year-old Christian B. was still dangerous. One must expect further deeds. It was also a warning to the judiciary, the authorities and also society. It went unheard.

One might have expected to take care of the young man after imprisonment, keeping an eye on him at best, but far from it.
Christian B. moves to Portugal and will commit further acts there. Completely undisturbed and unobserved. And in Germany, apparently, no one wondered where the dangerous sex offender had gone.

https://www.rtl.de/cms/doku-verdaechtig-im-fall-maddie-wer-ist-christian-b-deckt-auf-wie-polizei-und-justiz-versagt-haben-4907463.html

This set of circumstances has been flagged up by the author as one of the major derelictions in the kidnap case of Madeleine McCann by allowing a dangerous and known sexual predator free licence to offend at will and off radar.

Just the one abduction & murder for Brueckner, wasn't it.
Maddie was more than enough for him.
He just didn't feel up to snatching anymore kids after that.
That'll be the reason his reign of child abducting terror ceased abruptly after May 2007.
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