Who had the motive for Maddie's disappearance.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Can I point out that there is no evidence that Bruckner abducted any child which renders your theory null and void.

IMO Bruckner is just a patsy like all the other patsies they tried to pin the abduction on.

why did “they” try and do that then?  How do the Germans benefit from finding a patsy for Madeleine’s disappearance? 

[Brietta]

Can I point out that there is no evidence that Bruckner abducted any child which renders your theory null and void.

IMO Bruckner is just a patsy like all the other patsies they tried to pin the abduction on.

What 'theory' is that?  I wasn't aware I had formulated one.  Have you never stopped to wonder why Amaral and his team sought so assiduously to make a patsy out of Murat in the first instance before latching on to Kate and then Gerry McCann without a shred of supporting evidence and what their motive might have been for doing that.

There has been no official suspect (or patsy) since the McCanns were first set up in 2007.  Not a single one!  They uniquely hold that distinction of having been set up as patsies and continue so to be for some as the innuendo of this thread topic and the spirit of direction of the flow of some of the contributions made to it confirms.

It is disingenuous to wonder what motive a convicted paedophile might have for abducting a small child.  Particularly considering he has given chapter and verse to it (vernichten) in chat with his fellow pervert https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8393151/Luxury-villa-new-Madeleine-McCann-suspect-Christian-Brueckner-raped-72-year-old-tourist.html

[Vertigo Swirl]

Angelo’s contribution to this forum is to make some provocative, unevidenced claim and then flit off for days or weeks refusing to defend his claim only to return at a later date to make another goady comment, then rinse and repeat.  It’s almost like he’s a troll…

[Mr Gray]

Can I point out that there is no evidence that Bruckner abducted any child which renders your theory null and void.

IMO Bruckner is just a patsy like all the other patsies they tried to pin the abduction on.

Thanks for YOUR OPINION which I'm sure you won't my me saying many would regard as total junk.. You may remember it was Amaral the convicted liar who tried to make the McCanns patsys

[Brietta]

It only took until the third post on this thread before the first slur was directed at Madeleine's parents.   While at one and the same time using the vehicle of the same post to ridicule that mere idea that a rapist and prolific paedophile who was on the loose in Luz at the time and never eliminated by police enquiries, would stoop to criminal offending.

You really could not make up an agenda like that!  But there it is in full sight for all to see and every bit as sordid as it always has been.

[Wonderfulspam]

It only took until the third post on this thread before the first slur was directed at Madeleine's parents.   While at one and the same time using the vehicle of the same post to ridicule that mere idea that a rapist and prolific paedophile who was on the loose in Luz at the time and never eliminated by police enquiries, would stoop to criminal offending.

You really could not make up an agenda like that!  But there it is in full sight for all to see and every bit as sordid as it always has been.

There was nothing on which to rule Brueckner in, so pretty easy to rule him out really.
I mean, what evidence was there that Brueckner, in particular, went into 5a & took Maddie out of there?
Wolters can't find anything.
There is however an abundance of evidence the McCanns had easy access to the apartment & indeed, went in & out of it frequently.
Bit hard to rule them out really.

[kizzy]

although the mccs were never going to leave any stone unturned seems they missed a golden opportunity here.

They have spent practically all their energy on a bitter fight going after GA.

The motive for that was he was harming the search for Maddie [seems it turned out it was reputation etc].

I wonder what their motive was in turning down a chance to prove they were innocent. and prove the DNA is no longer inconclusive.


Offer to help examine DNA samples ignored
Among the other things Operation Grange has showed no interest in is the remarkable offer by Dr Mark Perlin, chief scientist and executive of an American company, Cybergenetics, which is reputed to have the world’s most advanced equipment and methods to examine and identify DNA samples. Asked by an Australian news outlet if he could help in the Madeleine case, Dr Perlin said he would gladly analyse forensic samples found by specialist dogs in the McCanns’ holiday apartment and in a car they had hired 25 days after the reported disappearance. He said he could decipher 18 previously unsolvable DNA samples dating back to 2007.

A now defunct laboratory in the UK had been unable to come to any proper conclusions about them. Despite the lapse of time, Dr Perlin was optimistic that if the samples were sent to him, he and his team could accurately identify the DNA in less than a fortnight. He offered his services to Operation Grange free of charge, but he got no response. Dr Perlin extended the offer to Gerry McCann, but he did not respond either. Again, one wonders why.

[Mr Gray]

although the mccs were never going to leave any stone unturned seems they missed a golden opportunity here.

They have spent practically all their energy on a bitter fight going after GA.

The motive for that was he was harming the search for Maddie [seems it turned out it was reputation etc].

I wonder what their motive was in turning down a chance to prove they were innocent. and prove the DNA is no longer inconclusive.


Offer to help examine DNA samples ignored
Among the other things Operation Grange has showed no interest in is the remarkable offer by Dr Mark Perlin, chief scientist and executive of an American company, Cybergenetics, which is reputed to have the world’s most advanced equipment and methods to examine and identify DNA samples. Asked by an Australian news outlet if he could help in the Madeleine case, Dr Perlin said he would gladly analyse forensic samples found by specialist dogs in the McCanns’ holiday apartment and in a car they had hired 25 days after the reported disappearance. He said he could decipher 18 previously unsolvable DNA samples dating back to 2007.

A now defunct laboratory in the UK had been unable to come to any proper conclusions about them. Despite the lapse of time, Dr Perlin was optimistic that if the samples were sent to him, he and his team could accurately identify the DNA in less than a fortnight. He offered his services to Operation Grange free of charge, but he got no response. Dr Perlin extended the offer to Gerry McCann, but he did not respond either. Again, one wonders why.

You really need to stop believing the junk you read from sceptic websites. Even if perlin could unravel the dna it would be no help whatsoever... But you think it could prove the mccanns innocence

.. It couldn't prove anything.... That's fact not opinion

All sceptics do by pushing this is showing total ignorance of dna science

[Wonderfulspam]

You really need to stop believing the junk you read from sceptic websites. Even if perlin could unravel the dna it would be no help whatsoever... But you think it could prove the mccanns innocence

.. It couldn't prove anything.... That's fact not opinion

All sceptics do by pushing this is showing total ignorance of dna science

Maybe it's Brueckner's dna?
He'd have trouble explaining that away.

[kizzy]

You really need to stop believing the junk you read from sceptic websites. Even if perlin could unravel the dna it would be no help whatsoever... But you think it could prove the mccanns innocence

.. It couldn't prove anything.... That's fact not opinion

All sceptics do by pushing this is showing total ignorance of dna science

Seems your assumption is wrong again ...Seems like your post will do anything to trash anything posted against the mccs.

https://www.portugalresident.com/madeleine-inquiry-in-the-uk-questions-still-needing-answers/

As you will see it's march this year.



Madeleine McCann has been making headline news internationally yet again as the London Metropolitan Police investigation into her disappearance is reportedly going to be shelved this autumn.

I wonder if the Met’s Operation Grange has been deeply flawed from the very start and could that have something to do with the British ‘establishment’, a network that is said to include top politicians, billionaire newspaper owners and some leading police officers? But now we’re getting into the realm of speculation. Let’s not go there. Let’s stick with some of the facts as we know them.

The UK charity Missing People says that 140,000 people go missing in Britain every year. That’s 383 a day. Two thirds of the cases examined by the charity are under 18 years-of-age. So, why did the British government, diplomats and certain other influential individuals immediately give unprecedented support to the parents of this particular missing child? That’s the first of many fundamental questions that need answering.

Operation Grange destined to fail?
The review and investigation conducted by Operation Grange, a special unit set up within London’s police force more than a decade ago, was always destined to fail, according to a well-known, distinguished London detective who said he would not get involved in the case because the official remit of Operation Grange was to investigate the “abduction” in the Algarve as if it had taken place in the UK. Why such a limited remit when suspicions hovered over Madeleine’s parents and while there was very little credible evidence that Madeleine had been abducted?

[barrier]

Maybe it's Brueckner's dna?
He'd have trouble explaining that away.

Gray  has just told you the DNA route would be a waste of time, it couldn't prove anything.

[G-Unit]

It only took until the third post on this thread before the first slur was directed at Madeleine's parents.   While at one and the same time using the vehicle of the same post to ridicule that mere idea that a rapist and prolific paedophile who was on the loose in Luz at the time and never eliminated by police enquiries, would stoop to criminal offending.

You really could not make up an agenda like that!  But there it is in full sight for all to see and every bit as sordid as it always has been.

How can discussing a possible parental motive be described as a slur? They were official suspects in the case and have never managed to prove that they are innocent. Therefore discussing their hypothetical motive is acceptable imo.

CB's possible motive is also an acceptable subject for discussion of course.

[Eleanor]

How can discussing a possible parental motive be described as a slur? They were official suspects in the case and have never managed to prove that they are innocent. Therefore discussing their hypothetical motive is acceptable imo.

CB's possible motive is also an acceptable subject for discussion of course.

The McCanns have never had to prove their innocence, anymore than Brueckner has to prove his.

You really aren't on the right page.

[Vertigo Swirl]

How can discussing a possible parental motive be described as a slur? They were official suspects in the case and have never managed to prove that they are innocent. Therefore discussing their hypothetical motive is acceptable imo.

CB's possible motive is also an acceptable subject for discussion of course.

Murat has never proven his innocence either - can we discuss his possible motive?

[Mr Gray]

Seems your assumption is wrong again ...Seems like your post will do anything to trash anything posted against the mccs.

https://www.portugalresident.com/madeleine-inquiry-in-the-uk-questions-still-needing-answers/

As you will see it's march this year.



Madeleine McCann has been making headline news internationally yet again as the London Metropolitan Police investigation into her disappearance is reportedly going to be shelved this autumn.

I wonder if the Met’s Operation Grange has been deeply flawed from the very start and could that have something to do with the British ‘establishment’, a network that is said to include top politicians, billionaire newspaper owners and some leading police officers? But now we’re getting into the realm of speculation. Let’s not go there. Let’s stick with some of the facts as we know them.

The UK charity Missing People says that 140,000 people go missing in Britain every year. That’s 383 a day. Two thirds of the cases examined by the charity are under 18 years-of-age. So, why did the British government, diplomats and certain other influential individuals immediately give unprecedented support to the parents of this particular missing child? That’s the first of many fundamental questions that need answering.

Operation Grange destined to fail?
The review and investigation conducted by Operation Grange, a special unit set up within London’s police force more than a decade ago, was always destined to fail, according to a well-known, distinguished London detective who said he would not get involved in the case because the official remit of Operation Grange was to investigate the “abduction” in the Algarve as if it had taken place in the UK. Why such a limited remit when suspicions hovered over Madeleine’s parents and while there was very little credible evidence that Madeleine had been abducted?

My post was about scept DNA ignorance... Which you haven't answered... The Portugal Resident is a junk pro Amaral newspaper that thinks the idiots on CMOMM are experts.. LOL