Brueckner charged with sexual offences in cases unrelated to Madeleine

[Vertigo Swirl]

Absolutely.

Busching didn’t go to the media for three years after telling the Greek police at least, ergo he was trustworthy during those three years according to sceptic logic.  The second he went to the media however according to you and G-Unit all the information he gave to the police which previously could be trusted suddenly became lies through the act of speaking to a journalist.  Amazing logic you’re demonstrating there.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I find it rather strange this supporter assumption that if you think that there is little evidence in the public domain to suggest Brueckner’s guilt in connection to the McCann case then you somehow support him. Can you please explain how that works?

Says the woman who accuses those of us who think he was possibly involved as being morally bankrupt. 

[Vertigo Swirl]

Seriously you believe the Sun, for years we read the "The Truth", or its version of what happened at Hillsborough, all turned out to be bollox.

In this instance the Sun reported accurately that which had already been divulged three years previously in a Greek newspaper, a cite for which I provided to you on request and which you have subsequently ignored.

You’re welcome.

 

[faithlilly]

There is a long list of those who have relayed information regarding Madeleine's case to the appropriate authorities, which has been subsequently ignored.

None more infamous than the information Ricardo Paiva was found to be hoarding in 2010 in files marked as being irrelevant and which he as head of the Portuguese investigation had been sitting on and doing nothing about.

Infamous indeed. This was a little trick played to discredit Paiva after he took the stand in the libel trial and gave testimony unfavourable to the parents. There was absolutely nothing to prove that the information within the file had not been investigated and found not to be relevant.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Infamous indeed. This was a little trick played to discredit Paiva after he took the stand in the libel trial and gave testimony unfavourable to the parents. There was absolutely nothing to prove that the information within the file had not been investigated and found not to be relevant.

Nothing apart from a clear absence of any evidence that they HAD been thoroughly investigated!  You logic is getting loopier by the minute.

[Brietta]

Nothing apart from a clear absence of any evidence that they HAD been thoroughly investigated!  You logic is getting loopier by the minute.

The only 'trick' of which I am aware of featuring Paiva was the one when he used work equipment to display his equipment to an internet acquaintance in the mistaken belief he was a she and a busty, blonde model into the bargain.
What a plonker!

Not sure, but I think the repercussions of that episode was banishment to Madeira?

The repercussions from sitting on files of evidence possibly consisted of suffering from repetitive strain injury from writing "not relevant to the enquiry" on everything received; and the instruction from the trial judge that his secret collection be handed to the McCann lawyers to enable them to see what evidence he had accrued and ignored.

Actually I don't think Paiva was ever the sharpest knife in the box.  Apparently he incriminated himself when defending against the suggestion Amaral's book had damaged the search for Madeleine.
He attested that information continued to come in and he had assiduously filed it in boxes marked "not relevant".

Sharp intake of breath from everyone in the court!!!!

[Eleanor]

The only 'trick' of which I am aware of featuring Paiva was the one when he used work equipment to display his equipment to an internet acquaintance in the mistaken belief he was a she and a busty, blonde model into the bargain.
What a plonker!

Not sure, but I think the repercussions of that episode was banishment to Madeira?

The repercussions from sitting on files of evidence possibly consisted of suffering from repetitive strain injury from writing "not relevant to the enquiry" on everything received; and the instruction from the trial judge that his secret collection be handed to the McCann lawyers to enable them to see what evidence he had accrued and ignored.

Actually I don't think Paiva was ever the sharpest knife in the box.  Apparently he incriminated himself when defending against the suggestion Amaral's book had damaged the search for Madeleine.
He attested that information continued to come in and he had assiduously filed it in boxes marked "not relevant".

Sharp intake of breath from everyone in the court!!!!

Oh God.  I Remember that.  Shocked I was.  And it was Madeira.

[G-Unit]

Busching didn’t go to the media for three years after telling the Greek police at least, ergo he was trustworthy during those three years according to sceptic logic.  The second he went to the media however according to you and G-Unit all the information he gave to the police which previously could be trusted suddenly became lies through the act of speaking to a journalist.  Amazing logic you’re demonstrating there.

I think in his case the media found him, not the other way round.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I think in his case the media found him, not the other way round.

Hush, you’re not supporting your own contention that he is not to be trusted for going to the papers!

[Anthro]

I think in his case the media found him, not the other way round.

No. He contacted Scotland Yard.

[sadie]

Indeed.

If they had been ‘fobbed off’ by the PJ why not approach a British police force and if they did approach a British force surely they shouldn’t have then been taking that information to the tabloids.

I wonder what could have been their motivation?

Why were they fobbed off by the PJ in the first place? 

Please be realistic; how would somone of the likes of Leonor Cipriano be able to approach a British Police Force?   Even a reasonably well educated Portuguese person would have found it virtually impossible unless they had use of a computer and knew how to use it.  Even then they had to have enough of the english language to be able to fill any forms in and read instructions.

Brits in PT would be unlikely to have access to a computer, so even for them it would be difficult.  And their opinions would very quickly have been shaken by disinformation put about by Amaral.

Please be realistic and reasonable

[barrier]

In this instance the Sun reported accurately that which had already been divulged three years previously in a Greek newspaper, a cite for which I provided to you on request and which you have subsequently ignored.

You’re welcome.

 

Unlike you I'm not glued to the McCann board waiting for a post to appear, I notice the Sun was on the ball reporting some 3 yrs after the original, thanks for bothering.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Unlike you I'm not glued to the McCann board waiting for a post to appear, I notice the Sun was on the ball reporting some 3 yrs after the original, thanks for bothering.

"harrumph, harrumph, harrumph".

[faithlilly]

No. He contacted Scotland Yard.

After he had been found smuggling immigrants into the country.

All a coincidence though.

[faithlilly]

The only 'trick' of which I am aware of featuring Paiva was the one when he used work equipment to display his equipment to an internet acquaintance in the mistaken belief he was a she and a busty, blonde model into the bargain.
What a plonker!

Not sure, but I think the repercussions of that episode was banishment to Madeira?

The repercussions from sitting on files of evidence possibly consisted of suffering from repetitive strain injury from writing "not relevant to the enquiry" on everything received; and the instruction from the trial judge that his secret collection be handed to the McCann lawyers to enable them to see what evidence he had accrued and ignored.

Actually I don't think Paiva was ever the sharpest knife in the box.  Apparently he incriminated himself when defending against the suggestion Amaral's book had damaged the search for Madeleine.
He attested that information continued to come in and he had assiduously filed it in boxes marked "not relevant".

Sharp intake of breath from everyone in the court!!!!

Paiva was the victim of a sting by a supporter….stupid man, but not the first man lead by his desires…. but why the necessity to go that far? To try to discredit him? There was talk at the time that the sting perpetrator was linked to people close to the parents but who knows?

AFAIA there has not been one piece of evidence in the file that was proven not to have been followed up. There was a New Zealand sighting but it seems that it was the New Zealand police who failed to follow up the sighting not the PJ.