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Offline faithlilly

Re: The Remit of SY
« Reply #195 on: November 21, 2022, 08:07:44 PM »
In what way?  Do explain.  Remember we are talking about Busching’s evidence being credible wrt to the rape conviction.  Also remember, I’m not the only one who thought so as I believe the culprit got 7 years.  Off you go, explain.

You do understand that courts get it wrong sometimes, don’t you?

With regard to Brueckner, if there was DNA to link him to the crime then that’s what convicted him, not some people trafficking lowlife with the credibility of Boris Johnson.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: The Remit of SY
« Reply #196 on: November 21, 2022, 08:13:44 PM »
Sometimes yes.
Wow.  Amazing they all don’t do it, who knew it was so easy, and that the police and the courts were so gullible.
« Last Edit: November 21, 2022, 08:30:25 PM by Vertigo Swirl »
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: The Remit of SY
« Reply #197 on: November 21, 2022, 08:21:54 PM »
You do understand that courts get it wrong sometimes, don’t you?

With regard to Brueckner, if there was DNA to link him to the crime then that’s what convicted him, not some people trafficking lowlife with the credibility of Boris Johnson.
It’s sad that you still don’t understand so let me try one last time.
1) an old lady is raped in PdL, bound and tortured.
2) the only evidence found is an unidentified hair.
3) years later Busching describes to police seeing a couple of rapes on a video that he says were committed by CB in the Algarve and also that he is responsible for Madeleine’s disappearance.  He describes, torture, victim being tied up etc
4) police check out unsolved rapes in the Algarve and discover similarities between what Busching describes and the rape of the old lady in PdL
5) A DNA profile of the previously unidentified hair matches with the person Busching says committed the other rapes he saw on the video.
6) Bingo!  The police have potentially identified the woman’s rapist.
7) CB is chargrd and convicted based largely on this information
8) Had Busching never pointed the finger at CB it’s unlikely the rape would ever have been reinvestigated and the hair tested against his profile
9) Bushcing’s evidence was credible and helped solve thr crime.

Understand now?

 &%54%
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline faithlilly

Re: The Remit of SY
« Reply #198 on: November 21, 2022, 09:30:16 PM »
Wow.  Amazing they all don’t do it, who knew it was so easy, and that the police and the courts were so gullible.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2006/mar/23/ukcrime.law
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Eleanor

Re: The Remit of SY
« Reply #199 on: November 21, 2022, 09:39:20 PM »

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: The Remit of SY
« Reply #200 on: November 21, 2022, 09:53:58 PM »
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2006/mar/23/ukcrime.law
the Greek police confirmed Busching gained no privileges from his revelation so unless you know otherwise your link is completely irrelevant. 
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline faithlilly

Re: The Remit of SY
« Reply #201 on: November 21, 2022, 10:02:11 PM »
It’s sad that you still don’t understand so let me try one last time.
1) an old lady is raped in PdL, bound and tortured.
2) the only evidence found is an unidentified hair.
3) years later Busching describes to police seeing a couple of rapes on a video that he says were committed by CB in the Algarve and also that he is responsible for Madeleine’s disappearance.  He describes, torture, victim being tied up etc
4) police check out unsolved rapes in the Algarve and discover similarities between what Busching describes and the rape of the old lady in PdL
5) A DNA profile of the previously unidentified hair matches with the person Busching says committed the other rapes he saw on the video.
6) Bingo!  The police have potentially identified the woman’s rapist.
7) CB is chargrd and convicted based largely on this information
8) Had Busching never pointed the finger at CB it’s unlikely the rape would ever have been reinvestigated and the hair tested against his profile
9) Bushcing’s evidence was credible and helped solve thr crime.

Understand now?

 &%54%

Busching, I’m sure you will agree, is no friend of the police so why, out of a clear blue sky and 9 years after the event would he suddenly decide to reveal all to them?

Further it would appear that the new charges brought against Brueckner are related to the unknown old lady and young girl allegedly seen on the tape. Busching and his video truly are the gift that keeps giving.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: The Remit of SY
« Reply #202 on: November 21, 2022, 10:13:02 PM »
Busching, I’m sure you will agree, is no friend of the police so why, out of a clear blue sky and 9 years after the event would he suddenly decide to reveal all to them?

Further it would appear that the new charges brought against Brueckner are related to the unknown old lady and young girl allegedly seen on the tape. Busching and his video truly are the gift that keeps giving.
You have completely ignored my post - do you understand why Busching’s evidence was shown to be credible yet?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline faithlilly

Re: The Remit of SY
« Reply #203 on: November 21, 2022, 10:20:07 PM »
You have completely ignored my post - do you understand why Busching’s evidence was shown to be credible yet?

Watch the Discovery+ interview with Seyforth.

The court did not decide that Busching’s testimony was credible. After allegedly watching the same tape Busching and Seyforth contradicted each other regarding what they viewed on the tape. Seyforth further contradicts himself in the interview.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline faithlilly

Re: The Remit of SY
« Reply #204 on: November 21, 2022, 10:21:11 PM »
That won't work in Portugal.  Not sure about Germany.

How so?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: The Remit of SY
« Reply #205 on: November 21, 2022, 10:34:24 PM »
Watch the Discovery+ interview with Seyforth.

The court did not decide that Busching’s testimony was credible. After allegedly watching the same tape Busching and Seyforth contradicted each other regarding what they viewed on the tape. Seyforth further contradicts himself in the interview.
So how did the police make the connection between the rape, the hair and CB?  What can I learn from an interview with Seyforth if he contradicts himself in this interview?
« Last Edit: November 21, 2022, 10:36:46 PM by Vertigo Swirl »
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: The Remit of SY
« Reply #206 on: November 21, 2022, 10:44:01 PM »
Out of interest Faithlilly do you think police should not be allowed to use testimony given by one criminal against another?  If a petty drug dealer gets arrested and is promised a more lenient sentence if he gives evidence against the gang boss, do you think that’s wrong?   Should it be made harder for police to solve crimes by only using evidence supplied by individuals without a criminal record?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline faithlilly

Re: The Remit of SY
« Reply #207 on: November 21, 2022, 11:00:03 PM »
So how did the police make the connection between the rape, the hair and CB?  What can I learn from an interview with Seyforth if he contradicts himself in this interview?

Unless we know the exact chronology of events it is impossible to know what happened when.

What can you learn from the interview? That the two protagonists who allegedly found the tape can’t even agree on the events contained within the tape.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline faithlilly

Re: The Remit of SY
« Reply #208 on: November 21, 2022, 11:02:49 PM »
Out of interest Faithlilly do you think police should not be allowed to use testimony given by one criminal against another?  If a petty drug dealer gets arrested and is promised a more lenient sentence if he gives evidence against the gang boss, do you think that’s wrong?   Should it be made harder for police to solve crimes by only using evidence supplied by individuals without a criminal record?

It would depend if an enticement was offered.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: The Remit of SY
« Reply #209 on: November 21, 2022, 11:06:27 PM »
Unless we know the exact chronology of events it is impossible to know what happened when.

What can you learn from the interview? That the two protagonists who allegedly found the tape can’t even agree on the events contained within the tape.
So what?  Recollections may vary.  We know this is a human fallibility. 
Question: would CB (a man you yourself described as “without doubt a danger to women”) be behind bars on a rape conviction if it hadn’t been for Busching’s evidence? 
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".