The Remit of SY

[Vertigo Swirl]

Charges and trial are better words….both of which, in relation to Madeleine, we won’t be hearing anytime soon I’d wager.

You hope, you mean.

[G-Unit]

There seems to be an expectation dominant in all you post that nothing should ever have changed in the initial three pronged approach to analysing investigative materials from the past in the hope of progressing Madeleine McCann's case. 
Signifying a very real resistance to change and thus failing to understand what Operation Grange or any other cold case review is designed to accomplish.

The most compelling outcome in Madeleine's investigation to date is the huge change brought about by advancements in knowledge led by new information and evidence which added German input to the mix.

I would say that the Operation Grange remit of attempting to discover what happened to Madeleine has been amazingly worked.
As yet we have no definitive answer as to her fate but for the first time since 2007 there is a named prime suspect in the frame which is testament to the changing climate which has been brought about by the diligence of Operation Grange personnel.

That is what it is all about.  Progress and change; words which appear to be anathema to sceptics who by their nature are condemned to be stuck like flies in the aspic of their limitations and prejudices.

The remit of Operation Grange was to review the evidence of the abduction and to investigate it as if it occurred in the UK. They weren't looking for evidence of any other crime. The progress you are so impressed by wasn't driven by the Met's expertise or diligence, but by the accusations levelled by one criminal against another. All OG had to do was listen to him.

[Vertigo Swirl]

The remit of Operation Grange was to review the evidence of the abduction and to investigate it as if it occurred in the UK. They weren't looking for evidence of any other crime. The progress you are so impressed by wasn't driven by the Met's expertise or diligence, but by the accusations levelled by one criminal against another. All OG had to do was listen to him.

Are you claiming that Operation Grange did not review ALL the information gathered on this case  in its entirety?   

[barrier]

That is what it is all about.  Progress and change; words which appear to be anathema to sceptics who by their nature are condemned to be stuck like flies in the aspic of their limitations and prejudices.

Along with the supporters who just can't get over themselves with their own limitations and prejudices that others have a different point of view.

[G-Unit]

Are you claiming that Operation Grange did not review ALL the information gathered on this case  in its entirety?

Apparently every piece of evidence which wasn't already in HOLMES was entered by OG. This took until October 2015, which tells us that the OG remit wasn't arrived at as a result of reviewing the evidence. The remit says 'the abduction' and it's abduction which OG have investigated. My original question remains unanswered; how did those who created OG decide that the crime was an abduction? The Portuguese investigation did not reach that conclusion.

[faithlilly]

Apparently every piece of evidence which wasn't already in HOLMES was entered by OG. This took until October 2015, which tells us that the OG remit wasn't arrived at as a result of reviewing the evidence. The remit says 'the abduction' and it's abduction which OG have investigated. My original question remains unanswered; how did those who created OG decide that the crime was an abduction? The Portuguese investigation did not reach that conclusion.

Ah but Amaral, he’s a convicted criminal and so are all his mates….you can’t believe a word they say…..oh wait !!!

[Eleanor]

Apparently every piece of evidence which wasn't already in HOLMES was entered by OG. This took until October 2015, which tells us that the OG remit wasn't arrived at as a result of reviewing the evidence. The remit says 'the abduction' and it's abduction which OG have investigated. My original question remains unanswered; how did those who created OG decide that the crime was an abduction? The Portuguese investigation did not reach that conclusion.

The Portuguese Investigation didn't reach any conclusion.  So what do you want answered?  I don't suppose that you can tell us that.  Short of Libel.

[Eleanor]

Ah but Amaral, he’s a convicted criminal and so are all his mates….you can’t believe a word they say…..oh wait !!!

Wait for what?

[Wonderfulspam]

The Portuguese Investigation didn't reach any conclusion.  So what do you want answered?  I don't suppose that you can tell us that.  Short of Libel.

How did Grange ascertain that the crime, if any, was abduction, before they finished reviewing the evidence?
It's a simple enough question.

[Wonderfulspam]

Iirc, Rowley's explanation has been that, however Madeleine left the apartment, it was an abduction, because she wasn't old enough to leave & start a life on her own.
Britain's Finest at work there.

[G-Unit]

The Portuguese Investigation didn't reach any conclusion.  So what do you want answered?  I don't suppose that you can tell us that.  Short of Libel.

My question is simple. How did Grange decide that the crime was abduction?

[Vertigo Swirl]

Apparently every piece of evidence which wasn't already in HOLMES was entered by OG. This took until October 2015, which tells us that the OG remit wasn't arrived at as a result of reviewing the evidence. The remit says 'the abduction' and it's abduction which OG have investigated. My original question remains unanswered; how did those who created OG decide that the crime was an abduction? The Portuguese investigation did not reach that conclusion.

It's boring going round and round in circles, don't you find?  You carry on believing that the police were constrained to only investigate abduction, refusing to consider any other possible alternative even if concrete evidence pointed in a different direction and I'll stay in the real world, if it's all the same to you.

[Vertigo Swirl]

My question is simple. How did Grange decide that the crime was abduction?

Why don't you get out the Basildon Bond and the green pen and ask them yourself?

[Wonderfulspam]

It's boring going round and round in circles, don't you find?  You carry on believing that the police were constrained to only investigate abduction, refusing to consider any other possible alternative even if concrete evidence pointed in a different direction and I'll stay in the real world, if it's all the same to you.

And how are things going in the real world?
Wolters must be wrapping things up soon I suppose. Given the amount of all the irrefutable abduction evidence the three police forces have at their disposal.

[Eleanor]

My question is simple. How did Grange decide that the crime was abduction?

Common bleeding sense.