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Offline pathfinder73

Re: Gerry and Jez chat while Jane walks by. Seconds later she spots Tannerman!
« Reply #825 on: January 29, 2015, 11:53:41 AM »
Quote from: Faithlilly on January 29, 2015, 11:35:50 AM
You do raise a very good question. Why would Gerry deny seeing JT ? Probably for the very same reason that he was insistent he had his back to her as she passed by on the other side of the road, to distance himself from JT's claim it everything went pear shaped.

Deniability was his watchword. At that time it was quite possible that someone may come forward and say ' oh yes I was on my balcony having a fag and saw the two men talking but definitely didn't see any woman'. How could Gerry possiblly say he had seen JT when he didn't know how things were going to unfold ?

We know one thing for certain. Jes said he never saw her and if Gerry knew that was correct he couldn't see her either.
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Gerry and Jez chat while Jane walks by. Seconds later she spots Tannerman!
« Reply #826 on: January 29, 2015, 11:55:02 AM »
Quote from: pathfinder73 on January 29, 2015, 11:53:41 AM
We know one thing for certain. Jes said he never saw her and if Gerry knew that was correct he couldn't see her either.

Indeed PF.
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Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline misty

Re: Gerry and Jez chat while Jane walks by. Seconds later she spots Tannerman!
« Reply #827 on: January 29, 2015, 12:36:00 PM »
Quote from: Faithlilly on January 29, 2015, 11:55:02 AM
Indeed PF.

According to the Moyes couple, who were drinking on their balcony at 9.15, there was no-one on the street. That makes JT, GM & JW all liars. Just who does one believe?
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Gerry and Jez chat while Jane walks by. Seconds later she spots Tannerman!
« Reply #828 on: January 29, 2015, 12:39:10 PM »
Quote from: misty on January 29, 2015, 12:36:00 PM
According to the Moyes couple, who were drinking on their balcony at 9.15, there was no-one on the street. That makes JT, GM & JW all liars. Just who does one believe?

Individual's timings may well be off but if an onlooker saw the whole conversation between Jez and Gerry but did not see JT that would be telling.
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Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline misty

Re: Gerry and Jez chat while Jane walks by. Seconds later she spots Tannerman!
« Reply #829 on: January 29, 2015, 12:41:22 PM »
Quote from: Faithlilly on January 29, 2015, 12:39:10 PM
Individual's timings may well be off but if an onlooker saw the whole conversation between Jez and Gerry but did not see JT that would be telling.

That's not what is being said.
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Gerry and Jez chat while Jane walks by. Seconds later she spots Tannerman!
« Reply #830 on: January 29, 2015, 12:45:24 PM »
Quote from: misty on January 29, 2015, 12:41:22 PM
That's not what is being said.

Not sure what you are getting at misty. I am giving a reason why Gerry may have decided to deny seeing Tanner.
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Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Gerry and Jez chat while Jane walks by. Seconds later she spots Tannerman!
« Reply #831 on: January 29, 2015, 01:00:06 PM »
Quote from: misty on January 29, 2015, 12:36:00 PM
According to the Moyes couple, who were drinking on their balcony at 9.15, there was no-one on the street. That makes JT, GM & JW all liars. Just who does one believe?

JW said he was talking to Gerry next to the side gate so Moyes wouldn't be able to see them from their balcony unless they were looking right over it which they wouldn't be doing. If they were on the other side of the road as Gerry said they would be able to see them 8)--))
« Last Edit: January 29, 2015, 01:04:26 PM by pathfinder73 »
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Offline jassi

Re: Gerry and Jez chat while Jane walks by. Seconds later she spots Tannerman!
« Reply #832 on: January 29, 2015, 01:03:28 PM »
Quote from: pathfinder73 on January 29, 2015, 01:00:06 PM
JW said he was talking to Gerry next to the side gate so Moyes wouldn't be able to see them from their balcony unless they were looking right over it which they wouldn't be doing.

And indeed why should they, unless they were being disturbed by someone flip-flopping their way up the road, and wondered who was making all the noise.
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Offline pathfinder73

Re: Gerry and Jez chat while Jane walks by. Seconds later she spots Tannerman!
« Reply #833 on: January 29, 2015, 01:10:01 PM »
Quote from: jassi on January 29, 2015, 01:03:28 PM
And indeed why should they, unless they were being disturbed by someone flip-flopping their way up the road, and wondered who was making all the noise.

 @)(++(* The PJ would be scratching their heads and still scratching after a reconstruction if it had happened. SY have got rid. Bye Bye Tannerman  @)(++(*
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Offline misty

Re: Gerry and Jez chat while Jane walks by. Seconds later she spots Tannerman!
« Reply #834 on: January 29, 2015, 01:12:06 PM »
Quote from: pathfinder73 on January 29, 2015, 01:00:06 PM
JW said he was talking to Gerry next to the side gate so Moyes wouldn't be able to see them from their balcony unless they were looking right over it which they wouldn't be doing. If they were on the other side of the road as Gerry said they would be able to see them 8)--))

Carole Tranmer could see the side gate to 5a from Mrs Fenn's balcony, which was immediately above the McCann apartment.
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Offline pathfinder73

Re: Gerry and Jez chat while Jane walks by. Seconds later she spots Tannerman!
« Reply #835 on: January 29, 2015, 01:14:08 PM »
Quote from: misty on January 29, 2015, 01:12:06 PM
Carole Tranmer could see the side gate to 5a from Mrs Fenn's balcony, which was immediately above the McCann apartment.

Not if you're sitting down you can't. She must have heard something and looked over the balcony - standing probably. Well it depends where you are.
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Offline misty

Re: Gerry and Jez chat while Jane walks by. Seconds later she spots Tannerman!
« Reply #836 on: January 29, 2015, 01:19:20 PM »
Quote from: pathfinder73 on January 29, 2015, 01:14:08 PM
Not if you're sitting down you can't. She must have heard something and looked over the balcony - standing probably. Well it depends where you are.

So you accept the Moyses are mistaken in their assertions, then. Good.
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Offline pathfinder73

Re: Gerry and Jez chat while Jane walks by. Seconds later she spots Tannerman!
« Reply #837 on: January 29, 2015, 01:23:56 PM »
Quote from: misty on January 29, 2015, 01:19:20 PM
So you accept the Moyses are mistaken in their assertions, then. Good.

No I'm saying they wouldn't be able to see Gerry and Jes talking at the side gate from their balcony if they were sitting. It's impossible unless they were looking right over it. Pamela Fenn had to look right over her balcony to be able to talk to Gerry below at around 10:30.
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Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline misty

Re: Gerry and Jez chat while Jane walks by. Seconds later she spots Tannerman!
« Reply #838 on: January 29, 2015, 01:34:51 PM »
Quote from: pathfinder73 on January 29, 2015, 01:23:56 PM
No I'm saying they wouldn't be able to see Gerry and Jes talking at the side gate from their balcony if they were sitting. It's impossible unless they were looking right over it. Pamela Fenn had to look right over her balcony to be able to talk to Gerry below at around 10:30.

So you accept the Moyes were probably mistaken. Why can't you accept that Gerry/Jez were also probably mistaken?
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Offline pathfinder73

Re: Gerry and Jez chat while Jane walks by. Seconds later she spots Tannerman!
« Reply #839 on: January 29, 2015, 02:00:50 PM »
Quote from: misty on January 29, 2015, 01:34:51 PM
So you accept the Moyes were probably mistaken. Why can't you accept that Gerry/Jez were also probably mistaken?

They couldn't see the side gate unless you look over the balcony.

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