Gerry and Jez chat while Jane walks by. Seconds later she spots Tannerman!

[Brietta]

Faith why are you trying to undermine the general consensus in this forum, when this placing of Gerry and Jez was discussed many months ago in fine detail... and pretty firmly established as being on the corner of the alleyway

It was agreed that with three strong pointers, two from Jez and one from Jane that the conversation was on the pavement at the corner of the alleyway.  THREE STRONG POINTERS that the conversation WAS ON THE ALLEYWAY CORNER   [Sorry to shout , but you seem to have become very "deaf" to anything that you dont wish to believe.]

Why are you determined to try and make something else out? ..... based on nothing except a sprinkling of statements that all say different things.



THREE STRONG AGREEING POINTERS to the alleyway corner,  against a sprinkling of other pointers all saying different things.


C'mon Faith, get real


Lets have FACTS, at least as near as possible, and not YOUR fantasies.

You have proved over and over again that Logic and facts are not your strong point



What is your reason for so relentlessly trying to change the most likely position?

Are you doing the Quentin Crisp thing of persuasion and fine words being better than Logic and facts ?  You are fond of that technique aren't you?  You recommended it on your signature for months.



Cause it doesn't "wash" with me, nor with thinking people.

Have you noticed, sadie, Mr Amaral had no problem whatsoever in distinguishing this particular truth from the lie ... otherwise why did he include the portrayal of the event (not exactly as stated by the witnesses) between 10:14  -  10:42 in his documentary?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_ZdDTsFC2g

[Alice Purjorick]

So based on your answer we can deduce it is eminently possible that Madeleine was carried away from Apartment 5a in the manner described by JT.  Thank you.

You are amazingly slow on the uptake!
I said that about half a dozen posts ago.

[Alice Purjorick]

Does it really matter how she was lifted? If she'd been drugged an abductor could have adjusted her body position however he/she wanted as no resistance would be offered. The only point worth noting is that Tannerman was probably left-handed as the child's head was resting on his left arm.

Think about that for a minute!

[Alfred R Jones]

You are amazingly slow on the uptake!
I said that about half a dozen posts ago.

Maybe so, but you waffle and prevaricate, and introduce George Mparbbe (however you spell it) and other distractions into your posts so frequently it's hard to tell what you're saying sometimes. Try giving a straight answer to a straight question and we'll get on better for sure.

[misty]

Think about that for a minute!

Yes. I've thought about it. Rules out RM as the carrier.

[sadie]

Have you noticed, sadie, Mr Amaral had no problem whatsoever in distinguishing this particular truth from the lie ... otherwise why did he include the portrayal of the event (not exactly as stated by the witnesses) between 10:14  -  10:42 in his documentary?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_ZdDTsFC2g

Well what else can you expect from a man like Amaral?  He is a Court proven liar  .. and he has an agenda to push.

He has to try to prove his book !



THREE STATEMENTS state that the conversation took place on the alleyway corner and Janes clearly states that they were in the road as against the pavement.  Yet Amaral choses to place Gerry and Jez in absolutely the wrong place ... in an effort to make Jane into a liar?



Why? 
There has to be a reason.  There always is.

[stephen25000]

Well what else can you expect from a man like Amaral?  He is a Court proven liar  .. and he has an agenda to push.

He has to try to prove his book !



THREE STATEMENTS state that the conversation took place on the alleyway corner and Janes clearly states that they were in the road as against the pavement.  Yet Amaral choses to place Gerry and Jez in absolutely the wrong place ... in an effort to make Jane into a liar?



Why? 
There has to be a reason.  There always is.

and Kate McCann had an agenda with her book.

 %£&)**# %£&)**# %£&)**#

[Alice Purjorick]

Maybe so, but you waffle and prevaricate, and introduce George Mparbbe (however you spell it) and other distractions into your posts so frequently it's hard to tell what you're saying sometimes. Try giving a straight answer to a straight question and we'll get on better for sure.

If you say so.

[Alice Purjorick]

Will one of the faithful please post a photo of Madeleine's room indicating her bed?

[faithlilly]

Well what else can you expect from a man like Amaral?  He is a Court proven liar  .. and he has an agenda to push.

He has to try to prove his book !



THREE STATEMENTS state that the conversation took place on the alleyway corner and Janes clearly states that they were in the road as against the pavement.  Yet Amaral choses to place Gerry and Jez in absolutely the wrong place ... in an effort to make Jane into a liar?



Why? 
There has to be a reason.  There always is.

Perhaps you can post those THREE STATEMENTS sadie ?

[misty]

Will one of the faithful please post a photo of Madeleine's room indicating her bed?

Yes, Alice. Lifted out right-handed style. Quite easy to adjust a child's position by lifting them up against your shoulder. Been there, done that, got the T-shirt.

[Bert Singe]

"The only point worth noting is that Tannerman was probably left-handed as the child's head was resting on his left arm."

I am right handed and yet every child I've ever carried in my arms has had their head rested on my left arm. The reason being, so that I can still use my right hand should I need to.

[misty]

"The only point worth noting is that Tannerman was probably left-handed as the child's head was resting on his left arm."

I am right handed and yet every child I've ever carried in my arms has had their head rested on my left arm. The reason being, so that I can still use my right hand should I need to.

I said "probably". If you are carrying a child some distance you normally support the heaviest part of its body with your strongest arm.

[Alice Purjorick]

Yes, Alice. Lifted out right-handed style. Quite easy to adjust a child's position by lifting them up against your shoulder. Been there, done that, got the T-shirt.

But wasn't the guy in a hurry? 
How many more "well it is plausible innits" are we going to introduce into this equation?
The Met greased "Tannerman The Abductor" 16 months ago and said Smithman was and remains (according to The Telegraph) a suspect who needed to be identified. That was good enough for me.

[pathfinder73]

Well what else can you expect from a man like Amaral?  He is a Court proven liar  .. and he has an agenda to push.

He has to try to prove his book !



THREE STATEMENTS state that the conversation took place on the alleyway corner and Janes clearly states that they were in the road as against the pavement.  Yet Amaral choses to place Gerry and Jez in absolutely the wrong place ... in an effort to make Jane into a liar?



Why? 
There has to be a reason.  There always is.

The PJ discredits Jane Tanner's testimony. They say that when she saw said man with the child, you [Gerry] were chatting nearby and it was impossible that you hadn't seen him as well…
 
(Gerry says he didn't see because his back was turned while he was chatting with a friend.)
 
Jane Tanner's testimony has evolved in an inverse manner to human mentality. Initially, she had seen only a person at a distance. As time went by, she started remembering details in such a manner that at the end, she even remembered the texture of the clothing that the man and the little girl were wearing. That was how she pointed at Murat. The only deposition that is credible is the Smiths.  %£&)**# (Goncalo Amaral)