German Prosecutor has no plans to charge Christian Bruckner.

[Vertigo Swirl]

That's great, but I don't see how that adds to the total absence of evidence against him in the MM case.
I understand it's difficult having to find another hobo sex case to pin it on at this later hour, but that's the harsh reality.
Best to stop fixating on him and move on.

Like sceptics have moved on from fixating about the McCanns you mean?  Okie dokes.

[Vertigo Swirl]

There isn’t a “total absence of evidence” against CB.  That is patently false.  There is evidence (all circumstantial) which we know about which is the reason he was made an arguido in the first place. There is also allegedly evidence that we don’t know about, which makes sense as investigators rarely reveal their entire hand until it is wise to do so.   You can’t be made an arguido on the basis of a German prosecutor’s whim as far as I understand.  The time to move on from CB being the prime suspect is if and when his status as arguido is removed and the Germans drop the case agaisnst him.  That is a reasonable and mature postion to take on the matter, so for that reason I doubt it’s likely to be adopted by any of the sceptics on this forum. 

[Lace]

You been reading  one of them tabloidy things again ?

Not all the people they interviewed can be wrong about him.

[Lace]

That's great, but I don't see how that adds to the total absence of evidence against him in the MM case.
I understand it's difficult having to find another hobo sex case to pin it on at this later hour, but that's the harsh reality.
Best to stop fixating on him and move on.

What total absence of evidence.  It's obvious he was the man staring at 5a he was observed three times if I remember correctly.  Looking at him the girl described him very well she also said he was wearing a leather jacket something CB wore.  The things he wrote on his computer which were read out in court shows him to have fantasies about abducting little girls coincidence?  I believe he did boast about taking Madeleine you don't believe in the 'hobo's' recollection of what he saw or heard but I believe him.  He said he lost his job and had to go to a safe house.  Why would he go through all that?   

[Brietta]

CB's Lawyer said he was a nice friendly man!!   Look how CB has been in court they said he answered in a quiet voice.  He's such a good actor it's a far cry from swaggering around carrying a gun and bragging about the thefts he committed    isn't it.

There was an interesting appearance by the accused during the trial when he was wheeled into court in a wheelchair. Never explained but apparently he had a sore foot.

The fact he was in full restraint gear of shackles inclusive of a restraining belt strapped around his waist completed the look.
Never explained or referred to.

Nonetheless there had to be a reason for it particularly as he had penalties for meltdowns and violent episodes during his time behind bars.

He is incapable of keeping up the mask of being Mr Nice for long. He has violent episodes despite being under supervision.
Diane and Hazel both testified what his behaviour is when he is in complete control of the prey he staked out for himself and it does not make for pleasant reading.
 

[Brietta]

Difficult to do when he's your only hate figure still in the game.

With respect, there are countless 'hate figures' who have never been out of the frame or out of the game starting with Madeleine and the rest of the McCann family.

Christian Brueckner is an habitual sex offender who should have been interrogated in 2007 along with the other recorded paedophiles who were there at the time.

Surely it must raise questions as to why the guy whose duty it was to oversee that diligence but omitted to do so; introduced Brueckner to Joe Public as the fall-guy / scapegoat or whatever.

Thereby playing yet another 'get out of jail card' for both prime actors while setting the slavering internet following in their place in the script and direction they should be following.

One simply cannot believe how the forces of law and order are the bad guys and
a serial sex offender is the hero until one becomes acquainted with the denizens inhabiting the hate zones which are the underbelly of the internet where the erstwhile 'Justice for Maddie' crew still lurk perhaps under their new sobriquet of 'Christian is an innocent scapegoat', much as they were told to do.

[Wonderfulspam]

With respect, there are countless 'hate figures' who have never been out of the frame or out of the game starting with Madeleine and the rest of the McCann family.

Christian Brueckner is an habitual sex offender who should have been interrogated in 2007 along with the other recorded paedophiles who were there at the time.

Surely it must raise questions as to why the guy whose duty it was to oversee that diligence but omitted to do so; introduced Brueckner to Joe Public as the fall-guy / scapegoat or whatever.

Thereby playing yet another 'get out of jail card' for both prime actors while setting the slavering internet following in their place in the script and direction they should be following.

One simply cannot believe how the forces of law and order are the bad guys and
a serial sex offender is the hero until one becomes acquainted with the denizens inhabiting the hate zones which are the underbelly of the internet where the erstwhile 'Justice for Maddie' crew still lurk perhaps under their new sobriquet of 'Christian is an innocent scapegoat', much as they were told to do.

The old 'interrogate the paedos' fallacy. As if the PJ could just round up anyone with an historic sex offence conviction & compell them to talk, when there's no evidence implicating them in Madeleine’s disappearance in the first place.

[Vertigo Swirl]

The old 'interrogate the paedos' fallacy. As if the PJ could just round up anyone with an historic sex offence conviction & compell them to talk, when there's no evidence implicating them in Madeleine’s disappearance in the first place.

I know you don’t have kids Spam, but if you did and one of them disappeared from their bed in the middle of the night never to be seen again would you rule out that she or he had been taken by a paedo on the basis that there was no evidence left at the scene which pointed to a paedo?  What would be a more plausible explanation?  That you murdered her, even though you knew you hadn’t? 

[jassi]

 equally plausible scenarios were that she was taken by child traffickers or stolen to order by someone who wanted a white child of a certain age for whatever purpose. Why concentrate on paedophilia without evidence?

[Wonderfulspam]

I know you don’t have kids Spam, but if you did and one of them disappeared from their bed in the middle of the night never to be seen again would you rule out that she or he had been taken by a paedo on the basis that there was no evidence left at the scene which pointed to a paedo?  What would be a more plausible explanation?  That you murdered her, even though you knew you hadn’t?

All of this is irrelevant to the point I made. Even if the PJ suspected a sex offender had stolen Maddie, on no evidence, they'd be powerless. They can't force anyone to talk & give an alibi. As it was, the PJ had no evidence whatsoever against CB so it's not surprising to me that a SWAT team wasn't sent to his campervan the moment the police were informed that a child had disappeared.

[Vertigo Swirl]

equally plausible scenarios were that she was taken by child traffickers or stolen to order by someone who wanted a white child of a certain age for whatever purpose. Why concentrate on paedophilia without evidence?

Because child traffickers are often involved in the sex trade as well and it’s the simply the most obvious explanation, Occams Razor. 

[Vertigo Swirl]

All of this is irrelevant to the point I made. Even if the PJ suspected a sex offender had stolen Maddie, on no evidence, they'd be powerless. They can't force anyone to talk & give an alibi. As it was, the PJ had no evidence whatsoever against CB so it's not surprising to me that a SWAT team wasn't sent to his campervan the moment the police were informed that a child had disappeared.

And yet according to Amaral, the police did go to his campervan but gave up when he didn’t answer the door.  Who ever suggested that police can force people to talk or give an alibi?  Who suggested SWAT teams the moment a child was reported missing?  They way you’re talking you seem to be suggesting police should simply not bother investigating a child’s disappearance at all if no early leads present themselves. 

[Wonderfulspam]

And yet according to Amaral, the police did go to his campervan but gave up when he didn’t answer the door.  Who ever suggested that police can force people to talk or give an alibi?  Who suggested SWAT teams the moment a child was reported missing?  They way you’re talking you seem to be suggesting police should simply not bother investigating a child’s disappearance at all if no early leads present themselves.

What I'm saying is, the PJ had no evidence whatsoever that Christian Brueckner, specifically, or any other paedo for that matter, could have been responsible for Madeleine's disappearance. But of course, things have changed now. There's an abundance of evidence against Christian Brueckner. Maybe he'll even be charged some day.

[Wonderfulspam]

P.S It was Brietta who suggested Brueckner should have been "interrogated" by the PJ. I was just pointing out that they had no reason to suspect him specifically & he would be under no obligation to answer to anything anyway & furthermore they'd need a warrant if they wanted to tear his home apart or check his electronic devices.

[Vertigo Swirl]

P.S It was Brietta who suggested Brueckner should have been "interrogated" by the PJ. I was just pointing out that they had no reason to suspect him specifically & he would be under no obligation to answer to anything anyway & furthermore they'd need a warrant if they wanted to tear his home apart or check his electronic devices.

All known paedos should have been checked out straight away as a matter of course, it’s normal for police to do this when young children go missing for any length of time, it’s standard police procedure, I’m not sure why youwould object to it frankly.