Any news on JB's 2025 CCRC application?

[Vertigo Swirl]

After he regained conciousness around 3.00. Vertigo!
Before he went up stairs to be shot!

So he was in the condition to fight back when Sheila allegedly first went at him with the gun.

[Joe Blogs]

So he was in the condition to fight back when Sheila allegedly first went at him with the gun.

Oh yes! Fully fit, but taken by surprise!
May have been slightly drowsy though after a long days work and a large G&T!

[Vertigo Swirl]

No no, I was asking if you had any Aga burn scenarios in mind yourself, Vertigo?
That is, I want you to give a scenario that includes the Aga burning Nevills back!

why would I do that when it hasn?t been demonstrated that the Aga caused the burns that night?  Is there a photograph of these alleged burns and these Aga knobs?

[Vertigo Swirl]

Oh yes! Fully fit, but taken by surprise!
May have been slightly drowsy though after a long days work and a large G&T!

so she administers one almighty thwack to the head that renders him unconscious for 3 hours?  Where was Sheila when he made his phonecall?

[Joe Blogs]

so she administers one almighty thwack to the head that renders him unconscious for 3 hours?  Where was Sheila when he made his phonecall?

Sheila was more than likely up stairs when Nev called Jeremy at 3.10. Vertigo!

[Joe Blogs]

why would I do that when it hasn?t been demonstrated that the Aga caused the burns that night?  Is there a photograph of these alleged burns and these Aga knobs?

Good heavens, there's videos and podcasts all over the web explaining Philip Boyces theory, Vertigo!
You really should watch and listen to them before making a decision.
Just print in 'Philip Boyce Aga burns' or such like! There's a six minute video on youtube and Yvonne Hartley does a half hour audio podcast explaining things too.
Print in Jeremy Bamber podcasts.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Sheila was more than likely up stairs when Nev called Jeremy at 3.10. Vertigo!

Then why did Nevill stop talking to Jeremy after one short sentence?  What happened directly after he uttered the words ?you sister?s gone crazy, she?s got a gun??

[Vertigo Swirl]

Good heavens, there's videos and podcasts all over the web explaining Philip Boyces theory, Vertigo!
You really should watch and listen to them before making a decision.
Just print in 'Philip Boyce Aga burns' or such like! There's a six minute video on youtube and Yvonne Hartley does a half hour audio podcast explaining things too.
Print in Jeremy Bamber podcasts.

. if this is such a big and important theory why hasn?t it formed the basis of previous appeals?  Isn?t it the case that every time an appeal fails Bamber?s team have to come up with a new theory of why he couldn?t have done it?  That?s how it seems to me?

[Joe Blogs]

. if this is such a big and important theory why hasn?t it formed the basis of previous appeals?  Isn?t it the case that every time an appeal fails Bamber?s team have to come up with a new theory of why he couldn?t have done it?  That?s how it seems to me?

It was actually JB and Yvonne Hartley who came up with the Aga theory, they realized that if you were to lie on your side in front of the Aga, leaning against it, then various parts could possibly cause burns similar to those found on Nevills back!
So, JB/CT hired Philip Boyce to conduct an experiment to prove this! And sure enough, three marks could be produced on pig skin which were similar in size, shape, and spacing to Nevills burns.
But no, this evidence could not be used before because it is only in recent years that the source of the burns was 'discovered' shall we say.
So the Aga theory really is 'new evidence', which was unavailable at the time of previous appeals, Vertigo!

[Joe Blogs]

Then why did Nevill stop talking to Jeremy after one short sentence?  What happened directly after he uttered the words ?you sister?s gone crazy, she?s got a gun??

Well I suppose Nevill was anxious to get up stairs and see if anyone had been injured, so just said what was neccessary to JB and hung up!

[Vertigo Swirl]

Well I suppose Nevill was anxious to get up stairs and see if anyone had been injured, so just said what was neccessary to JB and hung up!

he didn?t hang up though did he?  Jeremy stated that he could hear noises in the house after his father spoke.  Didn?t mention hearing gunshots though.

[Joe Blogs]

he didn?t hang up though did he?  Jeremy stated that he could hear noises in the house after his father spoke.  Didn?t mention hearing gunshots though.

I cant remember what JB said regarding the phone call, would need to check!
But I think JB would have put the phone down before an injured Nevill had staggered up stairs anyway!
Have you watched or listened to any of the Aga evidence yet, Vertigo?

[Joe Blogs]

This is what JB said in his first statement-  About 3.10 a.m. I recieved a  telephone call from my father. His voice was distressed and he said something like 'Sheila's gone crazy,she has got a gun'. After a few seconds the phone went dead.

[APRIL]

It was actually JB and Yvonne Hartley who came up with the Aga theory, they realized that if you were to lie on your side in front of the Aga, leaning against it, then various parts could possibly cause burns similar to those found on Nevills back!........................

Mmm. So he's been inside for the best part of 40 years during which time, after numerous failed attempts to gain his freedom, he's dispensed with the services of many who've supported him. The above sounds like nothing less than another cooked up attempt, as in "Yeh! This one might work!". It sounds like one of the numerous sessions he had with MT, cooking up scenarios which became more and more ludicrous, ie supposing A and B happen, and we can suggest it did, possibly X,Y, and Z should follow.

[APRIL]

This is what JB said in his first statement-  About 3.10 a.m. I recieved a  telephone call from my father. His voice was distressed and he said something like 'Sheila's gone crazy,she has got a gun'. After a few seconds the phone went dead.

I don't recall that "His voice was distressed......." formed part of his call to police, initially. It was only included as an afterthought after he'd been put on hold..............which is a bit rich considering he'd taken a good 10 minutes looking up, and making calls to, various police stations rather than call 999.