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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Any news on JB's 2025 CCRC application?
« Reply #120 on: June 26, 2025, 07:10:22 PM »
Would therr have been any good or logical reason for the police to have hauled Nevill’s body off the floor and onto a chair in a very serious breach of protocol?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Joe Blogs

Re: Any news on JB's 2025 CCRC application?
« Reply #121 on: June 26, 2025, 07:28:17 PM »
Would therr have been any good or logical reason for the police to have hauled Nevill’s body off the floor and onto a chair in a very serious breach of protocol?
I'm not sure if the CT have given an actual reason why Nevill was moved from the Aga to the chair/scuttle, Vertigo!
Would need to check!
Maybe someone else can help with that question?

Offline Myster

Re: Any news on JB's 2025 CCRC application?
« Reply #122 on: June 26, 2025, 07:50:15 PM »
Would therr have been any good or logical reason for the police to have hauled Nevill’s body off the floor and onto a chair in a very serious breach of protocol?
Why would they reposition Nevill's body where it would interfere with circulation of investigators through the kitchen?  Makes no sense other than to Bamber supporters, obviously.
It's one of them cases, in'it... one of them f*ckin' cases.

Offline APRIL

Re: Any news on JB's 2025 CCRC application?
« Reply #123 on: June 26, 2025, 07:53:08 PM »
Why would they reposition Nevill's body where it would interfere with circulation of investigators through the kitchen?  Makes no sense other than to Bamber supporters, obviously.


Good to see you back, Myster &^^&*

Offline Myster

Re: Any news on JB's 2025 CCRC application?
« Reply #124 on: June 26, 2025, 08:02:17 PM »
Or if you want to ensure they’re dead.  You know that experiment with the pig skin - was it done under clothes fabrics?
The guinea pig in Boyce's woeful experiment was wearing a t-shirt. Nevill had a tear in his blue pyjama top but nowhere near the burns on his nape...
It's one of them cases, in'it... one of them f*ckin' cases.

Offline Myster

Re: Any news on JB's 2025 CCRC application?
« Reply #125 on: June 26, 2025, 08:08:15 PM »

Good to see you back, Myster &^^&*
Hello April, I've been observing Joe's shenanigans from afar and thought I'd better return and contribute to debunking all the misinformation.
It's one of them cases, in'it... one of them f*ckin' cases.

Offline APRIL

Re: Any news on JB's 2025 CCRC application?
« Reply #126 on: June 26, 2025, 08:25:04 PM »
Hello April, I've been observing Joe's shenanigans from afar and thought I'd better return and contribute to debunking all the misinformation.


One is inclined to suspect a sad case of terminal brainwashing! Debunking, certainly. Perhaps some debriefing, too?

Offline Myster

Re: Any news on JB's 2025 CCRC application?
« Reply #127 on: June 26, 2025, 08:26:26 PM »
Boyce's experiment was carried out on an oil-fired AGA (repurposed SF), superficially similar to the solid-fuel fired one at WHF, but of different thermal character.  So not a true like-for-like representation.  The oil supply control box is at the right-hand side with a 8 or 10 mm microbore supply pipe painted white leading to the enclosed burner within on the left (concealed behind the AGA front vent and former ashpit door). It's also raised on a brick plinth whereas the WHF AGA was resting directly on the kitchen floor...
It's one of them cases, in'it... one of them f*ckin' cases.

Offline Myster

Re: Any news on JB's 2025 CCRC application?
« Reply #128 on: June 26, 2025, 09:13:28 PM »
They also claim that the top two burns on Nevill's nape were caused by the chrome-plated handle and the corresponding housing for its ball catch, as shown in a highly misleading composite photo (attached), where the parts in question appear to be in the same vertical plane 1.25" apart, when in fact the 3-dimensional view tells a different story, the separating distance being something over 2.25" NOT 1.25".

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11477219/Forensic-scientist-reveals-used-PIG-SKIN-test-theory-Jeremy-Bamber-case.html

Using the forensic scale it's easy to gauge the distance, each black and white space representing 10mm, giving something like 60mm (or 2.36") total.

APRIL has also confirmed the same measurement on her own old converted AGA.
It's one of them cases, in'it... one of them f*ckin' cases.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Any news on JB's 2025 CCRC application?
« Reply #129 on: June 26, 2025, 09:52:57 PM »
Very nicely debunked Myster.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Joe Blogs

Re: Any news on JB's 2025 CCRC application?
« Reply #130 on: June 26, 2025, 09:58:28 PM »
Very nicely debunked Myster.
Nicely debunked, Vertigo?
How so? Did I miss something?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Any news on JB's 2025 CCRC application?
« Reply #131 on: June 26, 2025, 10:01:30 PM »
Nicely debunked, Vertigo?
How so? Did I miss something?
obviously!
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Joe Blogs

Re: Any news on JB's 2025 CCRC application?
« Reply #132 on: June 26, 2025, 10:46:57 PM »
obviously!
If its the spacing of the top mark, then the CT have explained that, Nevill was lying against the Aga with his head forward and his chin tucked in, when he was photod at the morgue he was lying flat on his face which would shorten the distance of the top mark!
Try it with your hand, Vertigo! same principal! Let your wrist go limp and allow your hand to hang down, now put one mark with a pen on the joint area and another further up the wrist, measure the distance between the two points and then straighten your wrist again, as you will see the distance obviously shrinks!
Its no good just measuring the points on the Aga as reference, the human body is flexible, Vertigo!
If April wants a true result she will have to mark the three points on her Aga with lipstick or such, get down and lie against the cooker until all three points are in contact with her neck/back and then get up and straighten her head, then when someone measures the distance between the top too marks it will be less than the two points on the actuall Aga.
Quite simple!
Anything else?
« Last Edit: June 26, 2025, 10:49:27 PM by Joe Blogs »

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Any news on JB's 2025 CCRC application?
« Reply #133 on: June 26, 2025, 11:09:29 PM »
If its the spacing of the top mark, then the CT have explained that, Nevill was lying against the Aga with his head forward and his chin tucked in, when he was photod at the morgue he was lying flat on his face which would shorten the distance of the top mark!
Try it with your hand, Vertigo! same principal! Let your wrist go limp and allow your hand to hang down, now put one mark with a pen on the joint area and another further up the wrist, measure the distance between the two points and then straighten your wrist again, as you will see the distance obviously shrinks!
Its no good just measuring the points on the Aga as reference, the human body is flexible, Vertigo!
If April wants a true result she will have to mark the three points on her Aga with lipstick or such, get down and lie against the cooker until all three points are in contact with her neck/back and then get up and straighten her head, then when someone measures the distance between the top too marks it will be less than the two points on the actuall Aga.
Quite simple!
Anything else?
Are dead bodies that flexible? It seems to me there are too many variables at play to prove it one way or the other. 
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Joe Blogs

Re: Any news on JB's 2025 CCRC application?
« Reply #134 on: June 26, 2025, 11:30:02 PM »
Are dead bodies that flexible? It seems to me there are too many variables at play to prove it one way or the other.
Well it takes 8-12 hours for rigor mortis to set in fully, Vertigo, so Nevill would probably have been stretchered out flat on his back before then?
But I mean, just look at the blown up photos of the burns that Myster has posted, its obvious they are all different, and it cant be denied that the top mark is bigger, surely this mirrors the Aga knob and the two smaller points of the catch, as opposed to three burns from the rifle barrel which should be almost identical give or take surely?