Any news on JB's 2025 CCRC application?

[Vertigo Swirl]

Nah! Just like JB and his team, LM and his team will never give up on freedom and exoneration of his alleged crime, Vertigo.
But yes, things are a bit quiet at the moment, even on Twitter! Although the Team did give an update about LM parole prospects not so long ago.
Not sure if any progress has been made with the testing of any remaining samples either.

Out of interest are there any convicted murderers currently in prison who you don?t believe are the victims of a miscarriage of justice?

[Joe Blogs]

Out of interest are there any convicted murderers currently in prison who you don?t believe are the victims of a miscarriage of justice?

Ha ha! Of course most murderers are guilty, Vertigo! As a society we have to believe that the police get it right most of the time!
But some cases are special, where there is very little concrete evidence against the convicted individual, and said individual refuses to admit to the crime they are accused of, even if it keeps them in jail for longer than need be.

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Ha ha! Of course most murderers are guilty, Vertigo! As a society we have to believe that the police get it right most of the time!
But some cases are special, where there is very little concrete evidence against the convicted individual, and said individual refuses to admit to the crime they are accused of, even if it keeps them in jail for longer than need be.

How ironic,then, that you're happy to pin this atrocity on Sheila with 'evidence' which is no more than conjecture. The facts are that she was more than adequately medicated, she'd only ever experienced episodes when she was unmedicated, and she'd never shown physical violence to anyone, other than herself. But never mind the facts, eh? Especially when they're brushed aside for a good yarn!

[Joe Blogs]

How ironic,then, that you're happy to pin this atrocity on Sheila with 'evidence' which is no more than conjecture. The facts are that she was more than adequately medicated, she'd only ever experienced episodes when she was unmedicated, and she'd never shown physical violence to anyone, other than herself. But never mind the facts, eh? Especially when they're brushed aside for a good yarn!

If the facts were so clean cut then JB would have no supporters nor a campaign team, April!
Its one of those cases as they say!

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If the facts were so clean cut then JB would have no supporters nor a campaign team, April!
Its one of those cases as they say!

But the facts are there. It's just that supporters choose to ignore/twist them. The only occasions when she'd been psychotic were A) prior to diagnosis, B) as the result of failure to take prescribed medication to prevent episodes, resulting in her being injected to prevent a recurrence. Despite what is known of her previous behaviours and her consultant's knowledge of her, supporters insist she was psychotic, violent, and was adept with a rifle, NONE of which there is evidence of, so they make up scenarios which fit their insistence that she's guilty.

[Joe Blogs]

But the facts are there. It's just that supporters choose to ignore/twist them. The only occasions when she'd been psychotic were A) prior to diagnosis, B) as the result of failure to take prescribed medication to prevent episodes, resulting in her being injected to prevent a recurrence. Despite what is known of her previous behaviours and her consultant's knowledge of her, supporters insist she was psychotic, violent, and was adept with a rifle, NONE of which there is evidence of, so they make up scenarios which fit their insistence that she's guilty.

Poor Sheila was indeed very ill. April, finally being diagnosed with schizophrenia in the years before her death!

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Poor Sheila was indeed very ill. April, finally being diagnosed with schizophrenia in the years before her death!

Very ill? Well, she certainly had been prior to being diagnosed and medicated. Sadly, because she failed to take her prescribed medication, she had a relapse which caused her to be readmitted to hospital. It was then decided to medicate her with injections to prevent another relapse. It's not impossible that, through the course of your daily life, you've met schizophrenics! For their own safety, they keep it to themselves. They're hardly likely to broadcast such a condition, are they? They are perfectly well as long as they are medicated. Unfortunately, those who take their meds orally, very often stop taking them when they feel well. It's at this point they can become dangerous to themselves and to others. They often wander at this point and fall through the 'nets' which protect them. Of course, none of this happened to Sheila because she was adequately medicated.

[Joe Blogs]

Very ill? Well, she certainly had been prior to being diagnosed and medicated. Sadly, because she failed to take her prescribed medication, she had a relapse which caused her to be readmitted to hospital. It was then decided to medicate her with injections to prevent another relapse. It's not impossible that, through the course of your daily life, you've met schizophrenics! For their own safety, they keep it to themselves. They're hardly likely to broadcast such a condition, are they? They are perfectly well as long as they are medicated. Unfortunately, those who take their meds orally, very often stop taking them when they feel well. It's at this point they can become dangerous to themselves and to others. They often wander at this point and fall through the 'nets' which protect them. Of course, none of this happened to Sheila because she was adequately medicated.

I believe Dr Ferguson or whoever it was originally diagnosed Sheila with psychosis and paranoia, and then later decided on paranoid schizophrenia.
So apart from the schizophrenia muddling her thoughts and disconnecting her from reality, Sheila thought that everyone was out to get her, even the twins! This threat alone may have caused Sheila to take drastic action if she feared for her life, who knows?
Anyway, in Sheila's case, I dont think it would have been as simple as taking her medicine for a guaranteed status quo regarding her well being, April!

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I believe Dr Ferguson or whoever it was originally diagnosed Sheila with psychosis and paranoia, and then later decided on paranoid schizophrenia.
So apart from the schizophrenia muddling her thoughts and disconnecting her from reality, Sheila thought that everyone was out to get her, even the twins! This threat alone may have caused Sheila to take drastic action if she feared for her life, who knows?
Anyway, in Sheila's case, I dont think it would have been as simple as taking her medicine for a guaranteed status quo regarding her well being, April!

Certainly, in the grip of psychosis, Sheila's thoughts would have been muddled. However once on meds, she'd have been clearer, which was probably one of the reasons she stopped taking them, ie she thought she was better, ergo, no need for medication. Incidentally, this is probably why most schizophrenics stop taking oral meds. Ultimately, not taking them led to Sheila's second breakdown and return to hospital. During that stay it was decided that the best way forward was meds by injection.

Schizophrenics will never be 'cured'. However, with medication, the condition, along with the muddled thoughts which lead to psychosis, can be controlled. What you have gone to great pains to have us believe, Sheila's belief that "everyone, including the twins, was out to get her" didn't form part of the reasons for her second admission. This being verified by Dr Ferguson. Not that  I think you'll be prepared to listen to any of what I've said because you're too determined to make Sheila responsible, at whatever cost to her reputation!

[Joe Blogs]

Certainly, in the grip of psychosis, Sheila's thoughts would have been muddled. However once on meds, she'd have been clearer, which was probably one of the reasons she stopped taking them, ie she thought she was better, ergo, no need for medication. Incidentally, this is probably why most schizophrenics stop taking oral meds. Ultimately, not taking them led to Sheila's second breakdown and return to hospital. During that stay it was decided that the best way forward was meds by injection.

Schizophrenics will never be 'cured'. However, with medication, the condition, along with the muddled thoughts which lead to psychosis, can be controlled. What you have gone to great pains to have us believe, Sheila's belief that "everyone, including the twins, was out to get her" didn't form part of the reasons for her second admission. This being verified by Dr Ferguson. Not that  I think you'll be prepared to listen to any of what I've said because you're too determined to make Sheila responsible, at whatever cost to her reputation!

Well,i've been reading about the different symptoms and statistics of paranoid Schizophrenia, April!
Not a nice condition to say the least!
So! We have to decide if Sheila was the killer due to her mental illness, or that Bamber simply killed his family, including women and children, without any diagnosed mental illness just for the dosh!
One things for sure, if JB was the killer the Judge was right about the son of a gun being indeed evil almost beyond belief! Could someone be that evil without being nuts, April?

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Well,i've been reading about the different symptoms and statistics of paranoid Schizophrenia, April!
Not a nice condition to say the least!
So! We have to decide if Sheila was the killer due to her mental illness, or that Bamber simply killed his family, including women and children, without any diagnosed mental illness just for the dosh!
One things for sure, if JB was the killer the Judge was right about the son of a gun being indeed evil almost beyond belief! Could someone be that evil without being nuts, April?

Absolutely they could! Do you recall hearing about Hindley and Brady suffering unspecified mental conditions? What JB had been 'suffering' had built up over many years. Sibling rivalry, of itself, isn't unusual and most siblings eventually come to an understanding. However, JB and Sheila weren't true siblings, although I have no evidence of adopted siblings being greater rivals than biological siblings, and it may be that this played a part in his growing sense of entitlement. I magine, from where he was, he saw Sheila getting the lion's share of everything. She was allowed to change schools when she wasn't happy. He had to stay at Greshams. Sheila flipped from one 'glamorous' job to the next, always funded by the bank of June and Nevill. Sheila lived in London. Never mind that he was compensated with trips to Australia, ultimately, his life was mapped out. He was to work on the farm, something he clearly wasn't cut out for, partly because it didn't pay him enough to lead the life he wanted.

I guess thing became worse when Sheila married a man who couldn't support her, and the twins she delivered,  and Nevill and June were spending more and more on her. When it became obvious that Sheila would be unlikely to work again, he must have seen his inheritance diminishing rapidly. Then there was the cost of her health care. Soon there would be the boys' education. He may be forgiven for believing he was working for nothing. He may be forgiven for believing he was working to keep Sheila and her boys. He may even be forgiven for feeling resentful. The sibling rivalry had turned into an overblown sense of entitlement. As he, himself said "I won't be sharing any of my inheritance with Sheila".

[Joe Blogs]

Absolutely they could! Do you recall hearing about Hindley and Brady suffering unspecified mental conditions? What JB had been 'suffering' had built up over many years. Sibling rivalry, of itself, isn't unusual and most siblings eventually come to an understanding. However, JB and Sheila weren't true siblings, although I have no evidence of adopted siblings being greater rivals than biological siblings, and it may be that this played a part in his growing sense of entitlement. I magine, from where he was, he saw Sheila getting the lion's share of everything. She was allowed to change schools when she wasn't happy. He had to stay at Greshams. Sheila flipped from one 'glamorous' job to the next, always funded by the bank of June and Nevill. Sheila lived in London. Never mind that he was compensated with trips to Australia, ultimately, his life was mapped out. He was to work on the farm, something he clearly wasn't cut out for, partly because it didn't pay him enough to lead the life he wanted.

I guess thing became worse when Sheila married a man who couldn't support her, and the twins she delivered,  and Nevill and June were spending more and more on her. When it became obvious that Sheila would be unlikely to work again, he must have seen his inheritance diminishing rapidly. Then there was the cost of her health care. Soon there would be the boys' education. He may be forgiven for believing he was working for nothing. He may be forgiven for believing he was working to keep Sheila and her boys. He may even be forgiven for feeling resentful. The sibling rivalry had turned into an overblown sense of entitlement. As he, himself said "I won't be sharing any of my inheritance with Sheila".

Well that's one theory, one explanation, one diagnosis as it were, April!
So, a life time of jealousy coupled with extreme greed and selfishness and obviously no moral compass at all led to the murders?

[Vertigo Swirl]

Well that's one theory, one explanation, one diagnosis as it were, April!
So, a life time of jealousy coupled with extreme greed and selfishness and obviously no moral compass at all led to the murders?

Sounds eminently plausible to me, and certainly wouldn?t be the first time a family has been wiped out for personal gain.

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Sounds eminently plausible to me, and certainly wouldn?t be the first time a family has been wiped out for personal gain.

Thank-you, and you're right! It certainly wouldn't. Nonetheless, I'd be very surprised if the Blog hasn't his fingers firmly in his ears, intoning "Lalala", along with blinkers over his eyes!

[Joe Blogs]

Thank-you, and you're right! It certainly wouldn't. Nonetheless, I'd be very surprised if the Blog hasn't his fingers firmly in his ears, intoning "Lalala", along with blinkers over his eyes!

Ha ha! Very good, April, very good! But yes, the Blog will have to dismiss your theory due to the Boyce evidence obviously!
I believe the General agrees with me now too, and has even applied to work in a factory which manufactures Aga cookers!